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#1726
TastyLaksa

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I hope the drop in price increases the volume of the sales they will get from the DLC, instead of reducing the profits from the sales they would have got anyway at $5.

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All I care about right now is when it'll be out? Announcement has been around for a while but thing itself is still not. Yeah, I know, testing and all and what not but I still want it. Although I had hoped that perhaps it'll have a new massive armor designs, I like the overall design of it, it's really massive as such but the bad thing is that they all look the same. Different colors and ornaments but they're all still the same. That's the only boring part.

#1728
Granolan2021

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I hope it's done before January, if it's not that would make me a saaad panda :(, looks exciting though :D

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I hope they will release the DLC pretty soon because around Xmas, the guys will start taking their holiday's breaks and I'm almost sure the DLC won't be released before next year, if they don't release it before Xmas...

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Got to say this will be an instant download for me.

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druidofwarp

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^ agreed

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Rob Bartel wrote...

Sorry, no waffles but there will be some voicework, including from the followers. We put a particular focus on the various followers who were also present at the battle.

As for precisely when it will come out, we don't have a specific answer to that yet which is why we're being vague. We're still tackling one last optimization issue and then we need to make it through final testing and certification across all three platforms.

Average playtime is always tough to pin down because everyone's mileage will vary (and developers player the game in a very different manner than a typical first-time player). I can do a speed run (skipping through conversations and cutscenes, using a buff party, controlling Dog, avoiding some combats, ignoring loot drops, not looking at the scenery, etc) in about 15-20 minutes. I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete.


If it takes 1 hour to complete then no way am I buying this. Not a snowballs chance in hell. 7 bucks is not worth 1 hour to me, sorry Bioware. I got screwed on the Wardens Keep once your not getting me a 2nd time. The length of the Wardens content was pathetically fast and over with.

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Yelina wrote...
If it takes 1 hour to complete then no way am I buying this. Not a snowballs chance in hell. 7 bucks is not worth 1 hour to me, sorry Bioware. I got screwed on the Wardens Keep once your not getting me a 2nd time. The length of the Wardens content was pathetically fast and over with.

They just announced that the price will be lowered as to more reasonably match the amount of content, so maybe this snowball does have a chance in hell after all...

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Yelina wrote...

Rob Bartel wrote...

Sorry, no waffles but there will be some voicework, including from the followers. We put a particular focus on the various followers who were also present at the battle.

As for precisely when it will come out, we don't have a specific answer to that yet which is why we're being vague. We're still tackling one last optimization issue and then we need to make it through final testing and certification across all three platforms.

Average playtime is always tough to pin down because everyone's mileage will vary (and developers player the game in a very different manner than a typical first-time player). I can do a speed run (skipping through conversations and cutscenes, using a buff party, controlling Dog, avoiding some combats, ignoring loot drops, not looking at the scenery, etc) in about 15-20 minutes. I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete.


If it takes 1 hour to complete then no way am I buying this. Not a snowballs chance in hell. 7 bucks is not worth 1 hour to me, sorry Bioware. I got screwed on the Wardens Keep once your not getting me a 2nd time. The length of the Wardens content was pathetically fast and over with.

It won't cost you 7 bucks.

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q0rra wrote...

Yelina wrote...

Rob Bartel wrote...

Sorry, no waffles but there will be some voicework, including from the followers. We put a particular focus on the various followers who were also present at the battle.

As for precisely when it will come out, we don't have a specific answer to that yet which is why we're being vague. We're still tackling one last optimization issue and then we need to make it through final testing and certification across all three platforms.

Average playtime is always tough to pin down because everyone's mileage will vary (and developers player the game in a very different manner than a typical first-time player). I can do a speed run (skipping through conversations and cutscenes, using a buff party, controlling Dog, avoiding some combats, ignoring loot drops, not looking at the scenery, etc) in about 15-20 minutes. I suspect it would take a typical first-time player about an hour to complete.


If it takes 1 hour to complete then no way am I buying this. Not a snowballs chance in hell. 7 bucks is not worth 1 hour to me, sorry Bioware. I got screwed on the Wardens Keep once your not getting me a 2nd time. The length of the Wardens content was pathetically fast and over with.

It won't cost you 7 bucks.


You're

:wizard:

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 13 décembre 2009 - 08:13 .


#1736
TaTaR_RJ

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I would really like to see few new skills for Mabari. I have unspent skill point and after finishing this addon I will probably have second...

Also I hoped for third specializtion on level 21. Would be great if they allow it.

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What would you want to add to the Mabari? Tricks? I mean, he already HAS Fetch pretty well? Maybe train him to disarm traps? :)


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Any date announced on Return to Ostagar yet?

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I would also be more inclined to purchase content with a little more substance to it. An hours worth of gameplay?? Enough with the appetizers! We want STEAK!

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shandaracoyote wrote...

I would also be more inclined to purchase content with a little more substance to it. An hours worth of gameplay?? Enough with the appetizers! We want STEAK!


The game has only been out for a month and a half. Steak is incoming but it will require patience. :)

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shandaracoyote wrote...

I would also be more inclined to purchase content with a little more substance to it. An hours worth of gameplay?? Enough with the appetizers! We want STEAK!


This is why the American meat industry went so wrong. 

#1742
shandaracoyote

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Hey, I grew up on a farm before meat was not politically correct. I am OLD lol.

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lol you guys are ready for an exspansion im ready for DA:2

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Like many gamers I don't think the issue is the price, $5 vs $4 is not much of a difference. It's just that any 1-hr quest is going to feel compressed and gimicky. Like Warden's Keep for example. It gets off to a real good start with the visions. But just when I am starting to get hooked into the story, it's over. Now judging by the price, Return to Ostagar is probably shorter than Warden's Keep. How good of a story could it be?
What we'd all like to see is a solid 4-6 hour adventure that builds enough tension so that the climax is worth it.  If it is good, I think many will be willing to pay $10-15 for it.  I don't think production costs scale linearly with play length.  Once you've built the assets for snowy Ostagar, how hard can it be to create more areas with those assets?  Same with voice actors, once they're on location (or in studio somewhere off location), adding an extra hour of work isn't going to cost nearly the same as the initial sunk cost in getting everyone together.  
Warden's Keep did a good job of building tension, but it blew its wad too soon. Needs to take an SSRI for the delayed..

Modifié par johngaltjr, 14 décembre 2009 - 01:48 .


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johngaltjr wrote...

Like many gamers I don't think the issue is the price, $5 vs $4 is not much of a difference. It's just that any 1-hr quest is going to feel compressed and gimicky. Like Warden's Keep for example. It gets off to a real good start with the visions. But just when I am starting to get hooked into the story, it's over. Now judging by the price, Return to Ostagar is probably shorter than Warden's Keep. How good of a story could it be?
What we'd all like to see is a solid 4-6 hour adventure that builds enough tension so that the climax is worth it.  If it is good, I think many will be willing to pay $10-15 for it.  I don't think production costs scale linearly with play length.  Once you've built the assets for snowy Ostagar, how hard can it be to create more areas with those assets?  Same with voice actors, once they're on location (or in studio somewhere off location), adding an extra hour of work isn't going to cost nearly the same as the initial sunk cost in getting everyone together.  
Warden's Keep did a good job of building tension, but it blew its wad too soon. Needs to take an SSRI for the delayed..


A lot of us are ready for something more substantial.  I just hope that there are separate teams for expansions and dlc.  

#1746
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i dont think there is i think it's the same team through out the whole process even through the creation of the game for dlc creation it would be nice if they did though that would mean x2 the dlc and the faster you get more entertinment for the game. to be honest i like the dilogue in the game alistair cracks me up, and i like the dispute with morrigan and liliana over you. what i would like is for bioware would make it to wear you can revisit places after you beat the game.

i guess they made it they way they did for a possible hint for DA:2 that would be my guess.Image IPBhopefully im right. the closing dialogue makes it seem that way.

Modifié par sonlockdon, 14 décembre 2009 - 02:43 .


#1747
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Yelina wrote...
If it takes 1 hour to complete then no way am I buying this. Not a snowballs chance in hell. 7 bucks is not worth 1 hour to me, sorry Bioware. I got screwed on the Wardens Keep once your not getting me a 2nd time. The length of the Wardens content was pathetically fast and over with.


Warden's keep wasn't a scam, I purchased my rogue stuff there and even got starfang, its not so bad, I also got the diabolist exclusive skills,  where's the screwing going on here? And the boss fight there was so good. Man you are one serious misinformed Fereldan.

Is it out now? Hehehe. LOL

#1748
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I'm ready for 2-3 expansions at $20~40 each, as long as there is some substance in those packages like the gta expansions.

But RTO will have to suffice for now.:innocent:

Anyway will there be any new weapon models other than the kings sword? and any word on new shops or shop?

Modifié par thecalling, 14 décembre 2009 - 05:38 .


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sonlockdon wrote...

lol you guys are ready for an exspansion im ready for DA:2


lol you guys are so stupid for wanting something different than me.

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Titius.Vibius wrote...
Warden's keep wasn't a scam, I purchased my rogue stuff there and even got starfang, its not so bad, I also got the diabolist exclusive skills,  where's the screwing going on here? And the boss fight there was so good. Man you are one serious misinformed Fereldan.

Is it out now? Hehehe. LOL

It sounds like you're basically saying you like Warden's Keep for the items and skills.  If so, just use the ToolSet and make yourself some items.  Or just download any of the (many) user-made ones for new items and skills... no work at all on your part!

The only part that saves your post is your comment about the boss fight, which I actually agree with.  There were 1 or 2 interesting fights.  The plot was "meh" in my opinion, and the DLC has a sense of being rushed (Avernus, not being able to go back inside, etc...).  It just wasn't enough content.

So you can understand why people are a little upset when Bioware basically says "we're about to give you more items but only about an hour worth of plot".

Modifié par CorwynNiTessine, 14 décembre 2009 - 06:20 .