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[Nozybidaj]

1) Liara
2) VS
3) Garrus
4) Tali
5) Vega
6) "Unannounced new female squad member"

That actually looks about perfect to me. Don't need any more than that.

[TheOtherTheoG]

I'm good with a smaller crew. Here would be my list:
Permanent:
VS
Liara
Garrus
Tali
James Vega
Legion (since he got so little ME2 screen time)
Jack
Miranda

Temporary (LotSB style, although perhaps for a slightly shorter period):
Mordin (as much as I want him on my team, he has better things to do)
Wrex (same as Mordin)
Maybe Grunt
Jacob
Thane

Cameos:
Maybe Grunt
Samara/Morinth
Zaeed
Kasumi

[Apollo Starflare]

Nozybidaj wrote...

1) Liara
2) VS
3) Garrus
4) Tali
5) Vega
6) "Unannounced new female squad member"

That actually looks about perfect to me. Don't need any more than that.

Amusingly, in the unlikely case that turned out to be the correct list you could feasible end up with an all female team... And Vega. Maybe it would unlock a special pimp hat outfit for him?

Edit:

iNixiRir wrote...



Oh, don't get me wrong - I expect Tali to be a squadmate in ME3, it's just that his tweet hardly confirms it.

I agree about the tweet, but it doesn't need to confirm it - PC Gamer did already.

Modifié par Apollo Starflare, 11 mai 2011 - 12:53 .

[mereck7980]

I am hoping that permanent 8 squad members is number the dev team settled on.  That would allow for this selection of former/new cast members:

1. VS - Already confirmed and just a given at this point (LI plot armor).  Along with Vega they will probably be assigned to work with Shepard, seeing as it seems our hero/heroine is back in the Alliance. 

2. Liara - Already confirmed and wearing (LI plot armor) she will likely be a central figure in the game both as the Shadow Broker and as a liasion between Shepard and the Asari govn on Thessia.

3. Garrus - Besides being already confirmed and sporting a big shiny set of (LI plot armor) we need more testostirone in this crew.  He will be imporant in recruiting the Turians in some way/shape/form. 

4. Tali - Already confirmed and equiped with (LI plot armor), plus the Talimancers would riot in the streets if she weren't a permanant squad member.  As we all have speculated you will need Tali to help you convince the Migrant Fleet to join the fight against the reapers. 

5. FNG (aka James Vega) Who knows what role he will play.  CH has already confirmed his status, and as stated above this crew has a potentially high female to male ratio, so besides being an Alliance asset he might be there to balance out the gender divide.

6. Miranda - Also equipped with a very nice set of (LI plot armor).  We haven't heard any official news about Miranda yet, but since she seems to pick you over Cerberus (if you blew up the Collector base), is officially a terrorist in the eyes of the Alliance, and besides bunking with Oriana has nowhere else to go it makes sense that she will stick with Shepard.  She will play a big role in the Cerberus hunting Shepard subplot I think.  Plus she has a great voice actor and is HOT...

7. Jacob - See the Miranda section, minus the being hot part. 

8. Jack - Seems to already be confirmed, and shares the terrorist/criminal distinction that Jacob and Miranda posses.  She is also said to be sporting a full body covering set of (LI plot armor), and given the "softening" CH hinted at I am intrigued to see where her character goes, so I am hoping she is a permanent squad member too. 

I am very interested in how they will replace some of the central figures (Garrus and Tali) in the species recruting quests if they died during the sucide mission.  I guess we will all learn more at E3, and despite how I usually avoid spoilers, I am so excited to get more news I will be combing the interwebs for every bit of news I can find next month.  

Modifié par mereck7980, 11 mai 2011 - 01:03 .

[Grumpy young man]

Since Ashley is seemingly redesigned along the "hot woman wearing a catsuit" lines it would seem that she is a clear squad substitute for Miranda. But I'm hoping of a squad return for Mordin since his type of quick wit humor was unique to all characters. If anything, that they make him an "active" Normandy npc along Kelly Chambers lines, with more dialogue ofc.

[Apollo Starflare]

Grumpy young man wrote...

Since Ashley is seemingly redesigned along the "hot woman wearing a catsuit" lines it would seem that she is a clear squad substitute for Miranda. But I'm hoping of a squad return for Mordin since his type of quick wit humor was unique to all characters. If anything, that they make him an "active" Normandy npc along Kelly Chambers lines, with more dialogue ofc.

Maybe Miranda now wears battle armor and her hair up in a bun?   Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot I would be surprised if she doesn't return in a full time role, although as I've said before with Jack being popular as well, and the game beginning to be heavily orientated towards female squaddies, maybe it isn't clear cut.

That's why I wonder whether there will be a couple of other belated 'Virmire' choices, where you can only recruit one of Miranda or Jack (for example). Perhaps bringing the total potential squadmates upto 9 or 10 but with less on any given playthrough. It does seem like a lot of VA work if they are trying to cut down, but then they did make a game with 12 already (and in less time I believe) and Casey Hudson's quote could be read in other ways sorta.

[Nozybidaj]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

[PlumPaul93]

I'd guess that there would be 9 squad members I don't understand why people think they would pick 8. I'd assume most of the LI's would be squaddies but who knows considering what they did with the LI's from ME1 to ME2.

[ExtremeOne]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

  


If that b*tch ashley is on the squad they better have Miranda on the squad 

[corporal doody]

hmm...so my guess if we are going by 8 perm squadmates
1) Liara
2) VS
3) Garrus
4) Tali
5) Miranda
6) new guy James Vega
7) Jack
8) no clue

im curious to see how they are to going fill in the spots left by squadmates that died along the way

[mereck7980]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

So you think the only possibilites for permanant squad members are Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, and the new guy?  This is way too small of a team for the task at hand.  And by your own logic Garrus and Tali couldn't be full squad members because they could already be dead.

Modifié par mereck7980, 11 mai 2011 - 01:54 .

[V-rex]

I want Grunt back, if only for the fact that without him and without Wrex my squad is without a Krogan.
And to be without a krogan is to be without a hope.

Granted Wrex is confirmed to be in the game and he's awesome but thus far he hasn't been signed on as a full squadmate even though I see no reason why not. If Garrus, Ashley and Tali can return (despite the risk of being, you know, dead) I don't see an excuse not to have Wrex there as well.

And if Wrex isn't an option, if he's busy being King Krogan, then why can't young Grunt take his place?
Also I want to see Samara come back, and Thane, and... actually that's about it. Other than those three it looks like everyone in my imediate 'heart' list on my signiture are confirmed to be returning.
Not bad not bad at all.

[WizenSlinky0]

Without a Krogan, they'd have to give you a Yahg.Humans are too squishy to be proper tanks, no matter what stats you give them that say otherwise!

Need big, giant, monster guys to take all the hits for the team.

[Nozybidaj]

mereck7980 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

So you think the only possibilites for permanant squad members are Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, and the new guy?  This is way too small of a team for the task at hand.  And by your own logic Garrus and Tali couldn't be full squad members because they could already be dead.

No I said (well actually the peson I was replying to said) "key role in the plot".  That has nothing to do with squad member status.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 11 mai 2011 - 02:05 .

[mereck7980]

Nozybidaj wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

So you think the only possibilites for permanant squad members are Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, and the new guy?  This is way too small of a team for the task at hand.  And by your own logic Garrus and Tali couldn't be full squad members because they could already be dead.

No I said (well actually the peson I was replying to said) "key role in the plot".  That has nothing to do with squad member status.

I misread the post, my bad.  I will say that I think Tali, Garrus, and Miranda probably will have a key role in the plot.  Tali at least will play a key role in recruiting the Quarians, and if she isn't there BW will have to come up with some way of bridging the gap her absense would create.  Garrus will probably play the same role when dealing with the Turians.  Miranda, if she is alive, will undoubtably play a large role in the Cerberus hunting Shepard subplot.  I don't see how these characters how be dealt with in self contained story segments given their status in the ME universe.  

Modifié par mereck7980, 11 mai 2011 - 02:20 .

[Mathy 16]

I want Grunt or Wrex, Kasumi and Thane to be added to the list that we are sure of and I will be happy

[Nozybidaj]

mereck7980 wrote...
I misread the post, my bad.  I will say that I think Tali, Garrus, and Miranda probably will have a key role in the plot.  Tali at least will play a key role in recruiting the Quarians, and if she isn't there BW will have to come up with some way of bridging the gap her absense would create.  Garrus will probably play the same role when dealing with the Turians.  Miranda, if she is alive, will undoubtably play a large role in the Cerberus hunting Shepard subplot.  I don't see how these characters how be dealt with in self contained story segments given their status in the ME universe.  

/shrug I suppose it depends on what your definition of "key role" is.  To me, it means "can't happen without that person".  A key role is like Mordin in ME2 creating a protection from the seeker swarms.  You can't just swap someone else into that role, the story can't progress forward without that person fulfilling that role.

Anyone that can die will inevitably have any role they fill marginalized so that any Wrex/Reave type pairing can accomplish the same thing.  They aren't going to let you get half way through the game and say "Sorry game over, Miranda died in your game, try again".

For these characters to have anything aside from "vanilla" parts to play in the story that are tailored and specific to that character it will have to be self contained without impact on the rest of the story.

[Blarty]

Miranda, I think, should be a given (as a regular full squadmate), especially with the way that her character evolves over ME2, the loyalty ending and the fact that she's seen what the Reapers do - no matter how many 'reports' you get, nothing prepares you for seeing something with your own eyes.

Also Legion - I'd love to see a Quarian / Geth truce so they are united against the Reapers

[mereck7980]

Nozybidaj wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...
I misread the post, my bad.  I will say that I think Tali, Garrus, and Miranda probably will have a key role in the plot.  Tali at least will play a key role in recruiting the Quarians, and if she isn't there BW will have to come up with some way of bridging the gap her absense would create.  Garrus will probably play the same role when dealing with the Turians.  Miranda, if she is alive, will undoubtably play a large role in the Cerberus hunting Shepard subplot.  I don't see how these characters how be dealt with in self contained story segments given their status in the ME universe.  

Anyone that can die will inevitably have any role they fill marginalized so that any Wrex/Reave type pairing can accomplish the same thing.  They aren't going to let you get half way through the game and say "Sorry game over, Miranda died in your game, try again".

For these characters to have anything aside from "vanilla" parts to play in the story that are tailored and specific to that character it will have to be self contained without impact on the rest of the story.

That is very true, but I think that BW was had this problem in mind for years.  I am hoping that they have thought of innovative ways of dealing with this issue rather than marginalizing such awesome characters.  But who knows what will happen?  Maybe we will get more details at E3.

[Blarty]

Nozybidaj wrote...

mereck7980 wrote...
I misread the post, my bad.  I will say that I think Tali, Garrus, and Miranda probably will have a key role in the plot.  Tali at least will play a key role in recruiting the Quarians, and if she isn't there BW will have to come up with some way of bridging the gap her absense would create.  Garrus will probably play the same role when dealing with the Turians.  Miranda, if she is alive, will undoubtably play a large role in the Cerberus hunting Shepard subplot.  I don't see how these characters how be dealt with in self contained story segments given their status in the ME universe.  

/shrug I suppose it depends on what your definition of "key role" is.  To me, it means "can't happen without that person".  A key role is like Mordin in ME2 creating a protection from the seeker swarms.  You can't just swap someone else into that role, the story can't progress forward without that person fulfilling that role.

Anyone that can die will inevitably have any role they fill marginalized so that any Wrex/Reave type pairing can accomplish the same thing.  They aren't going to let you get half way through the game and say "Sorry game over, Miranda died in your game, try again".

For these characters to have anything aside from "vanilla" parts to play in the story that are tailored and specific to that character it will have to be self contained without impact on the rest of the story.

The key is whether, with the character alive, you have to accomplish something (for now we'll call it a character oriented mission), with them dead some 'Alliance Strike Team' or scientist accomplishes the thing you need and sends it to you to aid in your fight, whilst you end up with different character-oriented missions for the people you did save. There's no real reason that the same line of dialogue can be said by two or even three characters, etc.

[Barackus2]

I just better have a krogan on my team, that's all I'm saying...

[Apollo Starflare]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

Just to echo what mereck has already said, I was using 'plot' quite loosely I guess. Been mostly posting about Cerberus' involvement recently and so that 'plot' is forefront in my mind. Basically I can see Miranda being an important part of THAT plotline if she is alive in your game. Basically, she has relevance to one of the plotlines that feed the main plot. Unlike, say, Thane who currently has little to no relevance to any plotline; unless we plan to recruit the Drell and even then it's a stretch.

I keep using Thane as an example of who won't be coming back when I would love to see him back, must stop.

Anyway, in terms of importance to the games main 'plot' the only real options are Shepard, Liara, the VS and Vega. Quite a small pool to draw from. Hence the benefit of BioWare using the 'recruit different races/groups' idea, it allows even potentially dead companions to play an important role in the main story, Obviously if they aren't around you can still continue the game, they aren't required (ala Alistair or Morrigan in DAO) but still potentially very important in deciding how the game ends (and what ending you get).

[ExtremeOne]

Oh They better have Grunt back on the squad as well .

[Adhin]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I think they don't need to 'replace' full time squad members. If for whatever reason Tali 'and' Garrus died in a game, you still have Liara, Kaiden/Ashley, FNG, I 'think' Miranda can't even die but I forget, that may just be her loyalty doesn't factor into if/when she can die. I think only way she can die, die is if its a full wipe and you can't even bring that in.

Either way thats about 4 characters which is 'enough' to go with. I think when they say they'll have character 'replacements' for lost squad mates from ME1/2 that its not permanent squadies. For instance if you lost Tali, instead of getting a new full-time squadmate, when you go onto whatever main quest she'd normally be a forced squad member you get a different temp-forced member. Reeger for instance would make sense to replace a dead-tali on that mission stuff where, if shes around, she takes that place.

Just how I figure it'll end up being as that takes a lot less work on there end to get the overall same result. Plus having chars only pop up cause you lost some people would be odd, putting a lot of effort into something far less people would see wouldn't fit as much as just replacing there 'forced' place on a mission.

That all said I think (and hope) its Liara, Ashley/Kaiden, Tali, Garrus, Vega, Miranda, Jack, and then I don't care who else heh.

Modifié par Adhin, 11 mai 2011 - 04:59 .

[Darkhour]

Supposedly, Jacob is out. I heard Bioware came up with Sanders to replace Jacob because Bioware fans hate black people and didn't want a black guy in the games they play.  Personally, I think everyone in ME3 should be black, just like everyone is gay in DA2. Rub it in all you bigots' faces.