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[Darkhour]

nelly21 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Miranda better be back on the SR 2

Or?

He'll pre-order it regardless.

[Ice Cold J]

mawdudi wrote...

I would predict Jack will be back as perm squad member. Bioware seems to have developed her character, told us about tweaks in her appearence and how she has gotten abit softer. Why give her all the attention if she only makes a short cameo ? On top of that if you have followed Jack's voice actresses blog, you know she did work for ME3 ATLEAST during 2 days. I dont know much about voice acting, but in 2 days you can for sure record more stuff than just few cameo dialogues.

While I hope that Jack returns as a squad member (temp or full depends on who they'd place before her), the 2 days the voice actor was reffering to could've been extra lines for background characters. It's not uncommon for main voice actors to do background voices here and there on the same project. Heck, some VA's are good enought o do several MAIN characters in the same scene.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is I wouldn't base my judgement of her inclusion on that alone.

That being said, assuming they survived the suicide mission, I think you can count on all LI's being squad members (temp or full is unsure), seeing as how Bioware would have to plan for their inclusion anyway, so you're looking at:
Ashley/Kaidan
Liara
Garrus
Tali
Jacob
Miranda
Jack
Thane

I doubt Zaeed and/or Kasumi would be squaddies just because not everyone previously met them. They will be the "Liaras" of the 3rd game: filling in for "default" agents giving Shepard info.

It'll either be Wrex or Wrev leading the Krogan. Still, I'm holding out hope that Wrex is a temporary squad member for the misison on Tuchanka.

We're going to the Geth "homeworld," the Salarian homeworld, and the Asari homeworld, so I could see Legion, Mordin, and/or Samara being temporary squaddies there.

Grunt could be a perm or temp squaddie, perhaps based on Wrex's presence on Tuchanka.

Realistically, ALL former characters (save the Virmire Victim [VV] ) could be temporary squadmates in ME3. I'd prefer they ALL be permanent squadmates, but I'd be OK with everyone being temps at some point or another.

P.S. I'm thinking Anderson is a squadmate if you picked Udina as the new Councillor. Just a guess, though.

[Reever]

Sam Deci wrote...

Now that Cerby are the enemy wont Miranda need to move her sister again? Cerberus could use her as blackmail otherwise.. I could see that being an excuse for her not being a Squad-mate for some of the game..

This is a huge issue, with Miranda having turned her back on Cerberus! I´m curious if this´ll still be part of the game, or only of her (back)story when we meet her again in ME3 (if she leaves at all....)

[Adhin]

@DieBySword: Try re-reading what I said. Or hell I'll try to re-explain...again...for a third time. Basically no, I think you wont get squad replacements if a member of a perm-squad could die in the last game. I think instead of a full-time squad replacement you'll get a replacement IF they would be a FORCED squad thing.

For instance in LotSB, Liara is a forced squad mate for over half that entire DLC. Shes not a permanent member and theres probably going to be a bit more of a focus of that kind of thing in ME3. So in a situation where say, Tali would be a forced squady, like say when your dealing with the Quarians, you'd get someone else if she was dead. Like Reegar.

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Pre-emptive confuse clearing upping... by all that above I mean if they died - there DEAD. Completely dead, never to be seen again ever. And that your overall 'full time squad' will be lesser in general. But in a place they would be used for as a forced (like loyalty missions or LotSB was handled) you'll get a replacement for them in that type of thing.

Modifié par Adhin, 13 mai 2011 - 03:30 .

[KainrycKarr]

iNixiRir wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

There was loose confirmation that she was back with a few articles but none of them really confirmed her squad-mate status until Casey made that one tweet.

Actually, that tweet doesn't really confirm it. Casey doesn't mention that she's a permante squadmate - he only says that she'll be back in ME3 (like every other character who didn't die).

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine
about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time
squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

[KainrycKarr]

Tommy6860 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

I don't think I've read anything about Tali yet. Any source of the confirmation?

This person claims to be an employee at EA, hears things at EA and is a moderator at cheathappens, said this,

"One big major hint I will tell you though, Kaiden or Ashley becomes a squad member again, as does Liara.Unfortunately for the Tali fans, she will not be a squad member this time around, but perhaps you finally see her face? Perhaps "

If you read a post by this same person earlier before this statement, you'll see where this person makes claim to being an employee at EA. Now, whether this person is telling the truth or not, I do not know. If I had my choice, I would as soon not have either Ashley or Kaiden so I could have Tali (preference of course, I really liked A&K a lot though, so it would not be a total bummer with them). I am sure there will be another human squad mate anyway.

PC Gamer and Casey Hudson would like a word with that employee.

From Chud's twitter.

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine
about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time
squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

[SSJ5]

This is my take on this:

We'll likely have a squad of 8-9 people.

For now we have:
1. Garrus
2. Liara
3. Virmire survivor
4. Vega
5. Tali

Casey Hudson has confirmed that there will be indeed new characters, so I expect at least two new characters. This leaves us with one or two returning permanent squadmates. Maybe not even that depending on how much of new ones we got. I would actually like more squadmates (about 10 would be great) if the game is really going to be bigger than any other ME game. Content should suffice to give any character sufficient screen time.

All LI will return as temporary squadmates.

[Bluko]

 Well there's two crucial factors here. First is that regardless of the previous games there has to be Squad Balance. This is why I'm still iffy to the idea that Garrus and Tali are permanent members. But they are both LIs and two of the most popular alien characters so it's not entirely far flung. Also there's need to be a decent Human to Alien ratio, anymore then 3 Human crew members is too human centric if you ask me. This would be my best guess so far...

Truth be told we don't even know if Ashley/Kaidan and Liara are permanent crew. But given their "plot armor" I'm going to say that they will be.

This would be my best guess so far...

Ashley/Kaidan (Soldier/Sentinel)
James Vega* (Sentinel/Soldier)
Liara (Adept)
Garrus/ Alt. Character (Inflitrator)
Tali/Alt. Character (Engineer)
Jack/Alt. Character (Vanguard)

*Vega's class will depend on Virmire Survivor.

That's my best guess so far. Though one thing concerns me with this: in truth this means there is still 10 Characters to create. There's no point in having a squadmate slot if it can't be filled by some character. It also allows for the potential of an extremely unbalanced team. If Kaidan, Garrus, and Tali died you might not have any Tech on your squad. That simply can't be allowed to happen. They could do this, but if anything it seems more complicated.

Though this scenario may work as well...
Ashley/Kaidan (Soldier/Sentinel)
James Vega* (Sentinel/Soldier)
Liara (Adept)
Garrus/ Alt. Character (Inflitrator)
Tali/Alt. Character (Engineer)
New Character (Vanguard)

This better since you only have 9 Characters overall.

But for all intents and purposes I still believe this is the most likely scenario...

Ashley/Kaidan (Soldier/Sentinel)
James Vega (Sentinel/Soldier)
Liara (Adept)
New Character (Inflitrator)
New Character (Engineer)
New Character (Vanguard)

I mean come on people. They're going to add new characters so they might as well just do it, now before you freak out I'll list what I think happens to the other crew. Also this just makes Bioware job a lot simpler for all intended purposes since it's only 7 Characters to deal with for the majority of the game. Their fates I believe...

Garrus Temp. Squadmate on Palaven's Moon
Tali Temp. Squadmate on Quarian vs. Geth
Grunt Temp. Squadmate on Tuchanka
Jacob/Miranda Temp. Squadmate with Anti-Cerberus Mission

We haven't actually seen Garrus, Tali, Grunt, Jacob, or Miranda with Shepard. This highly leads me to believe they will only serve temp squad roles for a mission or two. I really do believe that ME3 will follow ME2's trend of only having 2 old Squadmates return (Ashley/Kaidan and Liara) for the duration.

As for Wrex, Mordin, Thane, Legion, Jack, Samara/Morinth, Zaeed, and Kasumi I suspect they will just be NPCs. That said there's still a chance I'd say that Mordin, Wrex, Legion, and Samara might have temp squad roles but I'd say it's noticeably less. Jack is a bit of mystery since I have no clue what possible role she could have in ME3.

Modifié par Bluko, 13 mai 2011 - 06:40 .

[General_D23]

Garrus, according to Game Informer, was seen on the salarian homeworld in Shepard's squad fighting along side Liara.
You'll have to listen to their admittedly annoying Q&A (www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/04/29/special-edition-podcast-mass-effect-3-q-amp-a.aspx), but we have every indication he is a full squad member.

Tali, according to PC Gamer, will be a full time squad member just like Garrus, the Virmire Survivor, and Liara. Listening to their podcast covering their visit(www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/06/pc-gamer-uk-podcast-53-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-rage-and-mass-effect-3/), the dude that went to Bioware says he was told directly that she will be a squadmate, never mind what they said in the magazine itself in addition to what Casey said on Twitter.

There is no reason doubt any of that at this point, so...yeah. As far as squad balance goes, I think we can throw the ME1 style, six-squad representing a single class out the window. I do think we're looking more at 8-9, with up to three returning ME2 characters in addition one or two more new characters that will give us the needed tech powers or something to that effect. I don't know. Before the 12-Squad theory was blown to bits, I had assummed  6 & 6. 6 "Main" ME3 members (James, Liara, Virmire Survivor plus 3) plus 6 ME2 characters (including Garrus and Tali), but at this point I literally have no idea who they are going to include.

[DieBySword]

Adhin wrote...

@DieBySword: Try re-reading what I said. Or hell I'll try to re-explain...again...for a third time. Basically no, I think you wont get squad replacements if a member of a perm-squad could die in the last game. I think instead of a full-time squad replacement you'll get a replacement IF they would be a FORCED squad thing.

For instance in LotSB, Liara is a forced squad mate for over half that entire DLC. Shes not a permanent member and theres probably going to be a bit more of a focus of that kind of thing in ME3. So in a situation where say, Tali would be a forced squady, like say when your dealing with the Quarians, you'd get someone else if she was dead. Like Reegar.

-edit-
Pre-emptive confuse clearing upping... by all that above I mean if they died - there DEAD. Completely dead, never to be seen again ever. And that your overall 'full time squad' will be lesser in general. But in a place they would be used for as a forced (like loyalty missions or LotSB was handled) you'll get a replacement for them in that type of thing.

I see your point here but theres a problem for BW like this. If they are doing the Forced squad members (Garrus,Tali) and they are dead for a lot off ppl then those ppl will miss out on a lot of dialog and different combinations of squad powers if they are dead and noone will replace them.

After my 2 posts and the new info from CH and the thread around here I actualy think the VS and Vega will be perma members then will escort you to the trial. Anyone other will be a temp member if they are alive but if they are not someone else will take they`re place or it will just get harder to do the race mission. Liara is an exception as she will always be alive but that dosnt mean she must be a perm member, but theres the problem of missing out on  a LI if it isnt the VS char. Theres so much possibility here

General_D23 wrote...

Garrus, according to Game Informer, was seen on the salarian homeworld in Shepard's squad fighting along side Liara.
You'll have to listen to their admittedly annoying Q&A (www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/04/29/special-edition-podcast-mass-effect-3-q-amp-a.aspx), but we have every indication he is a full squad member.

Tali,
according to PC Gamer, will be a full time squad member just like
Garrus, the Virmire Survivor, and Liara. Listening to their podcast
covering their visit(www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/06/pc-gamer-uk-podcast-53-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-rage-and-mass-effect-3/),
the dude that went to Bioware says he was told directly that she will
be a squadmate, never mind what they said in the magazine itself in
addition to what Casey said on Twitter.

Well this is kinda problematic because it negates what we did in ME2. If I lost Garrus and Tali in the SM and they magicaly get perma members then what have I been doing then the whole second game <_<

Modifié par DieBySword, 13 mai 2011 - 08:49 .

[ToGVita]

My guess:

1) Liara
2) VS
3) Garrus
4) Tali
5) Miranda
6) James Vega
7) new squaddie 2
8) new squaddie 3

with the new squad members filling the roles of soldier (perhaps Anderson?), vanguard and one other.  I suspect they won't create alternates for Garrus, Tali and Miranda if they happen to be dead.  People new to the series will have those three (only?) alive, but if they're all dead in your playthrough, you'll have a team of five.  The final squaddie will probably need to be an engineer, since Tali is probably the most likely of the three to be dead.

I also think it's still possible that Tali will only be a temp squadmate, tied to the Geth/Quarian subplot, in which case I think we'll get four newbies - a soldier, a vanguard, an engineer and an extra infiltrator (in case you've killed Garrus).  It is pretty hard to kill Miranda accidentally, so I doubt there will be a replacement sentinel. 

[Burneye Is God]

hhh89 wrote...

We know after the article on the Xbox World Magazine that we'll have a smaller group of squad members in ME3. Since Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali and James Vega are confirmed as squad members, I'm thinking about which squad members of ME2 could return in ME3 as permanent squad members.
In my opinion Samara/Morinth, Thane, Zaeed, Kasumi, Legion and Mordin will not be permanent squad members . Tali and Garrus are already confirmed, so Miranda, Jacob, Jack, and Grunt remain. I don't think that all this four will return because we'll have 9 squad member with them, and it seems to me not much different to having 12 squad members, though I hope that they'll return. Jack seems the more plausible returning for the info we had in the past weeks about her.
So I create this thread to speculate about the other members of the ME2 team. I didn't see another thread about this. If there is already another, close it.

well like u say i think we'll have around nine squads members with obviously a spot for ash/kaidan etc. but so far we've seen six squaddies obviously we'll only have five from the six due the sacrifice made in mass effect 1! which will leave around five spots open? something tells me samara/monrith will return personally i'd be against this but hey each to there own. anyways i'd like miranda, mordin, wrex, zaeed and i guess kasumi to take the last slot?

[DieBySword]

Actualy more I think about it the more Im inclined to think the VS and Vega will be the only perma members and the rest will be temp choices or will be following the 3 man team as a fourth separate char.

All star earth team with 2 spectres aboard saving the galaxy

[XyleJKH]

I am pretty certain all the LIs will be in the the entire game. Only makes sense as casey said no one will be punished for their decisions in the game. One can only assume the LIs will be major roles.

[The Elder King]

[quote]XyleJKH wrote...

I am pretty certain all the LIs will be in the the entire game. Only makes sense as casey said no one will be punished for their decisions in the game. One can only assume the LIs will be major roles. [/quote

I really hope that. Hopefully we'll have more news about that soon.

[Shepherd10]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Considering Miranda has both popularity and a key role in the plot

I certainly doubt she has a key role in the plot, since she would be dead for a number of games.  Same goes for any of the ME2 squad.  Any story interaction you get with the ME2 crew is going to have to be self-contained simply because of that.

Idiot! If you have even played ME2, you would know that Miranda is actually one of the hardest squad-mates to kill. Even when disloyal, the only parts where she can die are when you take her to the human Reaper boss fight, and when she's left to cover Shepard's back before he fights the human Reaper. Not to mention the fact that she was essential in bringing Shepard back to life in ME2. You just don't like her, and that stupid logic that you used to make your point is your way of expressing it.

[Adhin]

@DieBySword: I think the mental hurdle your trying to get over is the idea that a ME3 perm squad member could die in ME2 and 'what would they do about that'. Basically nothing. If you count Vega you basically have 3(4, but 2 are virmire survivor) base squadmates. Now if you add Garrus and Tali into that, yes they can die but theres no reason to just ignore them because they could die. And they already have so many theres no reason to go adding in 4 more.

They'll probably make most of the LI into perm-squadies and if they died in the last game, they're dead and gone and just wont be on the team. It's why I think there wont be perm-replacement stuff. Yes people would miss out on content but you know what? if they made replacements for them people would STILL be missing out on content. They'd probably end up being pretty lifeless people if they where a pure perm-squad swap, kinda like how Kasumi and Zaeed where handled.

And if not then why make them a swap? why not make them a full member regardless of who died? That whole concept of making full fleshed out squad mates that only show up if someone dies just...reeks of a waste of resources.

If you got a lot of people killed in ME2 then your ME3 play through should show that, you lack a full squad cause you got them all killed.

-edit-
Also as stated you can't really get Miranda killed. I mean you can try and in doing so kill everyone else in your entire squad, which ultimately leads to shepard dying. I don't think anyone has her dead without shepard also being dead which, in turn, means you can't import that save file. So its easy to kinda think she'll be a perm squad made in ME3. You probably start off the game rescueing her from interrogation after or as your busy escaping earth.

Pretty sure they don't want you spending the whole game getting your squad together so I would imagine the very beginning part of it involving you having everyone together pretty quick. Liara, Ash/Kaiden, and Garrus are with you at the trial, I'd imagine so is Tali. Hell majority of the squad may be there but I'd imagine some are detained for questioning at that point, or didn't go got dropped off to avoid arrest before you went to your trial and, afterwords you pick them up once your done escaping.

That kinda thing would fit with kinda how ME1 intro went. Starting squence of crazyness which force-leads you to the citadel, which kinda has this semi-linear path which leads you to all your potential squadmates (minus liara) in that portion. Personally I loved that intro sequence, let you meet everyone.

Think ME3 intro would be suited well to that style, have everyone aviable with in 3-4 hours.

Modifié par Adhin, 13 mai 2011 - 05:05 .