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[Drachasor]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Are you trying to say its not possible to role play online? Because that is a blatant lie. If anything the role play is much better when you have other people role playing with you.

Their characters aren't as consistent as pre-written characters, so that makes roleplaying harder.  And they break character from time to time.  And they're not always available.  If my character has some sort of on-going relationship with their characters, what happens when they're not online?

No, single player is better in every respect.  And the gap will only get bigger.

Whatever, it's clear you lack an open mind. Role playing with humans is much more fun and exciting than predictable pre-written characters.

In a pre-determined world with a pre-determined story and characters, there are very significant limits to what a player can interject into the game.  They can't create quests for their character for instance.  When I think of some of the things I enjoy about the DA games, one of them is party banter and the like.  Yes, you CAN have banter between players, but it tends not to be the same.  It tends to be a lot less polished and have lots of OOC moments.  And while I do enjoy it (and do tabletop RPing every week), I also like to play a nice software RPG that handles a lot of the environmental and character details for me.

Of course, this isn't to say software RPGs don't have their flaws.  They certainly do.  A good half of them or more can't be fixed by making the game multi-player.  It wouldn't matter how many other people were playing in the party in the confrontation between Branka and Caridan...the game still wouldn't let you say "hey, I have an example of a golem with free will that can't be controlled (Shale), so how about you figure out how to make all future golems made like that!"  And, like I say making a game MP adds its own problems.

As such, I'm ok with DA3 if it has multi-player, but only as long as it preserves the RP elements I like about the previous games.  That means companions with opinions, stories, quests, and banter.  If playing with other people removes or significant limits those elements, then I think the game is better off without MP.  Better to have a game with a coherent vision of how the content is presented to the player (who can then choose how to react), then to have conflict between MP-related content and SP/RP-related content.

[ipgd]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's not that obscure.

Excuses, excuses...

a/s/l was as ubiquitous as LOL back in the 90s/early 00s. Like, 'if you were born before 2005 you should know what that means' ubiquitous.

[Sabriana]

ipgd wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's not that obscure.

Excuses, excuses...

a/s/l was as ubiquitous as LOL back in the 90s/early 00s. Like, 'if you were born before 2005 you should know what that means' ubiquitous.

If you mean me, in my language this wouldn't look the same. Except for the "a". Age/sex/location would translate into
alter/geschlecht/wohnort. Not everyone in the world is speaking weird English, ya know.

[Drachasor]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's not that obscure.

Excuses, excuses...

a/s/l was as ubiquitous as LOL back in the 90s/early 00s. Like, 'if you were born before 2005 you should know what that means' ubiquitous.

I was born in '84, and I certainly wasn't aware of the term "A/S/L".

You didn't spend enough time chatting online then.

[MistySun]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Read the bold.

Sorry, i just read it.  

[ipgd]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

I was born in '84, and I certainly wasn't aware of the term "A/S/L".

Then you either weren't using the internet or somehow managed to miraculously avoid ever stepping into a chatroom long enough for anyone to have the slightest hint you might possibly have a vagina or were willing to pretend you had a vagina and engage in underage (read: overweight, sweaty and 46) cybersex.

Sabriana wrote...

If you mean me, in my language this wouldn't look the same. Except for the "a". Age/sex/location would translate into  alter/geschlecht/wohnort. Not everyone in the world is speaking weird English, ya know.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

I figured that went without saying. Next time, I will append the appropriate exceptions for the benefit of all the non-English speakers happening to read my posts.

[fightright2]

ipgd wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's not that obscure.

Excuses, excuses...

a/s/l was as ubiquitous as LOL back in the 90s/early 00s. Like, 'if you were born before 2005 you should know what that means' ubiquitous.

Yep, that was during the time when AOL would send out a cd to everyone's home and you'd end up with a ton of them. a/s/l was all the rage in ao'hell' chat rooms.

[fightright2]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

I was born in '84, and I certainly wasn't aware of the term "A/S/L".

Then you either weren't using the internet or somehow managed to miraculously avoid ever stepping into a chatroom long enough for anyone to have the slightest hint you might possibly have a vagina or were willing to pretend you had a vagina and engage in underage (read: overweight, sweaty and 46) cybersex.

Sabriana wrote...

If you mean me, in my language this wouldn't look the same. Except for the "a". Age/sex/location would translate into  alter/geschlecht/wohnort. Not everyone in the world is speaking weird English, ya know.../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

I figured that went without saying. Next time, I will append the appropriate exceptions for the benefit of all the non-English speakers happening to read my posts.

This. And I was a real partygirl back in my teens.

You? No, way!

[neppakyo]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

@fight Yes way.

Lies! Pics or it didnt happen! *run*

[Tommy6860]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's not that obscure.

Excuses, excuses...

a/s/l was as ubiquitous as LOL back in the 90s/early 00s. Like, 'if you were born before 2005 you should know what that means' ubiquitous.

I was born in '84, and I certainly wasn't aware of the term "A/S/L".

It's been around almost as long as the WWW has. I remember seeing that in the old MS Comic Chat forums in 98. I never did much chat back then (nor do I now) other than posting to forums such as these. But I saw the A/S/L thing going back to various forums in 96, though it was rare. Ahh, that brings back memories of the days of 300baud to 14k modems, glad they're gone with those speeds.

[neppakyo]

Tommy6860 wrote...

It's been around almost as long as the WWW has. I remember seeing that in the old MS Comic Chat forums in 98. I never did much chat back then (nor do I now) other than posting to forums such as these. But I saw the A/S/L thing going back to various forums in 96, though it was rare. Ahh, that brings back memories of the days of 300baud to 14k modems, glad they're gone with those speeds.

It goes farther back then the WWW. Been around since the BBS days.

@Ali

Swedish girls are normal? Since when?

[fightright2]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

@fight Yes way.

Lies! Pics or it didnt happen! *run*

Emphasis on *was*. I've mellowed out since then, and become just another normal swedish gal, with steady employment and is soon-to-be-married.

Hmmm. Maybe that's why we get along so well. I, too, am a retired wild child. Complete with drama and cops and all. But nothing that major that my mom and dad look back on and point a finger at.

It all worked out.

[fightright2]

neppakyo wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

It's been around almost as long as the WWW has. I remember seeing that in the old MS Comic Chat forums in 98. I never did much chat back then (nor do I now) other than posting to forums such as these. But I saw the A/S/L thing going back to various forums in 96, though it was rare. Ahh, that brings back memories of the days of 300baud to 14k modems, glad they're gone with those speeds.

It goes farther back then the WWW. Been around since the BBS days.

@Ali

Swedish girls are normal? Since when?

Mhm. Bulletin Board System. Gawd. *nostalgia sets in*
*then suddenly feels old*

[Tommy6860]

neppakyo wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

It's been around almost as long as the WWW has. I remember seeing that in the old MS Comic Chat forums in 98. I never did much chat back then (nor do I now) other than posting to forums such as these. But I saw the A/S/L thing going back to various forums in 96, though it was rare. Ahh, that brings back memories of the days of 300baud to 14k modems, glad they're gone with those speeds.

It goes farther back then the WWW. Been around since the BBS days.

@Ali

Swedish girls are normal? Since when?

Well, yes, that too, but BBS systems were not used like internet we have today, though BBS is very prevalent now (like these boards for example). But the acronym wasn't in any kind of prevalent usage until the WWW. Internet as we use it today really didn't take hold until about 1994-95. The WWW has only been around since 91. Befiore that, most internet traffic was corporate messaging systems (like BBS was) routed through phone lines to PC, they weren't accessed by internet subcribers. I used play D&D on those systems back in the late 70s through the early 80s (and yes, I am that old) :-).

[Sabriana]

*casually trips Nepp - again* Go get 'im Ali.

Have you picked the wedding dress out yet, btw? I know you were looking.

ipgd, we do tend to get a little sensitive over here when people expect us to know exactly what English antonyms, acronyms, abbreviations, etc mean. However, I was simply poking you a little.

I resent being called a non-english speaker, btw. I do believe that my English is quite adequate. <--- see? Poking again.

I don't know where this obsession over MP comes from. I can't recall seeing all that many complaints around because of its lack. Unless I'm reading the wrong articles/forums/etc. Co-ops are, to me , far more acceptable. I simply don't want to spend valuable personal time with people I don't know, don't respect, don't like, and whose maturity I very much doubt.

I do think it would upset me very much to be subjected to idiocy on a grand scale. I have no doubt that there are good and serious players on the MMOs. So far, the silly people have dragged them down for me, personally, to the point that I won't even give them a second look.

If companies wish to incorporate MP into a SP, then there's nothing I can do to stop them. I simply won't purchase the game if the SP suffers because of the MP features.

[fightright2]

neppakyo wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

@fight Yes way.

Lies! Pics or it didnt happen! *run*

^^^ *coughs*

[Hayllee]

I'm an antisocial pessimist- I don't need other people in my games. That's why I play them-to get away from real people for a while. Seriously though, games probably aren't going to ever go completely multiplayer, especially if they started out as single player games. If they add a certain multiplayer portion (such as AC did) then that's perfect.

[fightright2]

Sabriana wrote...

*casually trips Nepp - again* Go get 'im Ali.

Have you picked the wedding dress out yet, btw? I know you were looking.

ipgd, we do tend to get a little sensitive over here when people expect us to know exactly what English antonyms, acronyms, abbreviations, etc mean. However, I was simply poking you a little.

I resent being called a non-english speaker, btw. I do believe that my English is quite adequate. <--- see? Poking again.

I don't know where this obsession over MP comes from. I can't recall seeing all that many complaints around because of its lack. Unless I'm reading the wrong articles/forums/etc. Co-ops are, to me , far more acceptable. I simply don't want to spend valuable personal time with people I don't know, don't respect, don't like, and whose maturity I very much doubt.

I do think it would upset me very much to be subjected to idiocy on a grand scale. I have no doubt that there are good and serious players on the MMOs. So far, the silly people have dragged them down for me, personally, to the point that I won't even give them a second look.

If companies wish to incorporate MP into a SP, then there's nothing I can do to stop them. I simply won't purchase the game if the SP suffers because of the MP features.

You English is more than adequate!

Co-op? I agree.
As for MP. I really don't care for it. For games like WoW that's fine. But to restrict many SP's into MP, that would simply take away from the personal experience. I wouldn't mind if they have SP with a  Co-op option like you said.  Like in some quest areas where only fighting is expected, would be ok. That way I could play once for myself then go back and play alongside with my husband. Or make a co-op expansion for those that want it. But don't go and ruin my SP by making it all MP.

Edit: added a missing word.

Modifié par fightright2, 13 mai 2011 - 07:20 .

[Sabriana]

Yes, Fight. That is my only concern. I don't really mind if MP is incorporated into an SP. But usually the SP suffers for it. It simply takes too much dev time to get it right, satisfying the SP *and* the MP.

If people are all gung-ho for the MP, that's fine. Just don't take/shorten/corrupt/etc my SP. You like MP? Fine, that's a personal taste and a personal opinion. Different strokes for different folks. All I ask is that the people who don't want their SP don't get short-changed.

Btw, thanks for the compliment. *Hugs Fight and hands her a slice of "Schwarzwälder Kirsch"

A German speciality cake, soaked with Cherry "water". Except it isn't water. It'll kick you into outer space.