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[100k]

This is how I think it goes:

The Citadel -- more or less the Reaper equivalent of a motion sensor, goes dark when Shepard breaks Reaper control. So now, the Reapers don't know what's going on in the galaxy. Nazara is killed, and she's one of the Reaper "eyes". The moment she dies, the Reapers begin their FTL jump.

* Two Years Later*

Shepard takes out the Collectors. They are the other "eye" into the galaxy. Now, assuming the the events of the ME series take place over a three to three and a half year period, and the Reapers are traveling at, maybe, fifteen or sixteen times the speed of normal FTL ships (bear with me here, let us not forget that the Reapers are billions of years old), is it still unreasonable to think they'd take more than a few years to reach us?

We know that they attack the Batarians, probably wiping out upwards of 30% of their colonies. This leads me to believe that the colonies in question are on the VERY outer rim of the Milky Way. This leads me to believe the Reapers are only a few light years into dark space -- essentially VERY close to the outer rim.

[Homebound]

so basically, the batarians should be wiped out before tey amass a full-scale invasion once the citadel races r weakened by the reapers?

[Homebound]

IsaacShep wrote...

Arcian wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/106469649889247232

"@macwalterslives Was the Human-Reaper in #ME2 a new Vanguard? Or did the Reapers begin their FTL-return right after #ME1?"

"@GV_Arcian a) Was a new Reaper, being built. Reapers began #FTL after #ME1."

Finally a definitive answer to this age old question. Also, be right back - I have a bone to pick with the guys over at the ME Wiki.

So it's FINALLY official. The Reapers began their journey to the Galaxy after Sovereign was destroyed. Human-Reaper was never plan B (a replacement for Sovereign). Glad we have it confirmed!

what now haters?

[KingNothing125]

I pretty much assumed that since I finished my first ME1 playthrough.

The Citadel mass relay never activated, so the Reapers started FTLing right then and there (to the Alpha relay in the Bataht system, as Arrival tells us).

All the Collectors were ever for was finding the most suitable mass effect-using race for "Ascension" (being processed into a new Reaper). Maybe it would become the new Vanguard for the next 50,000 year cycle, when all was said and done, who knows? But it should be obvious that the Reapers have been on the move since ME1.

[Mykel54]

It´s great to have this confirmed. It makes a lot more sense when Harbinger says "your galaxy is at hand" in arrival, and after the suicide mission the galaxy is in sight of the reapers. Two years travelling from dark space at FTL seems long enough to reach the milky way.

[100k]

Hellbound555 wrote...

so basically, the batarians should be wiped out before tey amass a full-scale invasion once the citadel races r weakened by the reapers?

Essentially the batarians are screwed. It was actually confirmed (by accident in my opinion) that the Reapers hit batarian colonies before they sack Earth.

[SynheKatze]

100k wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

so basically, the batarians should be wiped out before tey amass a full-scale invasion once the citadel races r weakened by the reapers?

Essentially the batarians are screwed. It was actually confirmed (by accident in my opinion) that the Reapers hit batarian colonies before they sack Earth.

Well, it was obvious, the Reapers are coming from batarian space, and there isn't much to stop their harvesting. I'm pretty sure they'll need fuel, and some ground forces will come in handy...

[drakmoor]

Lizardviking wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Well not to interject in this discussion (that would be best in another thread) but

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106452002925584384
"New Mass Effect items in the BIoWare Store! www.biowarestore.com #masseffect"

Before you reply with WTF NOTHING TO DO WITH ME3
Well included is a Vega T-Shirt with this insignia:

http://biowarestore....21134b826bff59c

Looks like Space-SAS.

Arcian wrote...

SF-03.

Special Forces?

Wouldn't that be contradicting to the whole N7 thing?

Actually N7 is just a military vocational code to designate someone with special ops training. I think that SF-03 is likely a special forces unit made up of N7 rated marines; Space-SAS is probably a very good analogy.

Candidate88766 wrote...

Could mean security force. Otherwise I can't think of anything else,
unless N7 is a different branch of the military to whatever Vega is in.

Actually, security force makes sense - Vega may be a member of the military police sent to keep an eye on Shepard.

Personally I think that logo looks too badass for a security force unit and I would think a military police unit would use MP as a prefix.

Modifié par drakmoor, 25 août 2011 - 01:15 .

[el master pr]

drakmoor wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Well not to interject in this discussion (that would be best in another thread) but

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106452002925584384
"New Mass Effect items in the BIoWare Store! www.biowarestore.com #masseffect"

Before you reply with WTF NOTHING TO DO WITH ME3
Well included is a Vega T-Shirt with this insignia:

http://biowarestore....21134b826bff59c

Looks like Space-SAS.

Arcian wrote...

SF-03.

Special Forces?

Wouldn't that be contradicting to the whole N7 thing?

Actually N7 is just a military vocational code to designate someone with special ops training. I think that SF-03 is likely a special forces unit made up of N7 rated marines; Space-SAS is probably a very good analogy.

Candidate88766 wrote...

Could mean security force. Otherwise I can't think of anything else,
unless N7 is a different branch of the military to whatever Vega is in.

Actually, security force makes sense - Vega may be a member of the military police sent to keep an eye on Shepard.

Personally I think that logo looks too badass for a security force unit and I would think a military police unit would use MP as a prefix.

Damn, another N7(if the assumption is correct). And here I was, hoping that the fact that Shepard and Kai Leng were the two of the three N7s we had seen on the game would make their confrontation even more epic...

[Thrombin]

iakus wrote...
So. wait.  Sovereign wasn't behind the Rachni Wars?    Or the wars weren't to capture the Citadel?

When did SIovereign realize there was something wrong with the Keepers, anyway?

Nothing says the Rachni wars were to capture the Citadel. Personally, I think Sovereign considered the Rachni a threat to the Reapers for some reason so he indoctrinated them  into attacking the rest of hte Galaxy, thus engineering their destruction.

Vigil only says that Sovereign could have been working for centuries to access the Citadel. The Rachni wars were more like milennia ago than centuries ago.

I actually think it was humanity's arrival on the scene which precipitated Sovereign's attempt to send the Signal. The Collectors had been testing different races for years, presumably, trying to find one with the genetic makeup to be suitable for Reaper reproduction. Only when humanity entered the Galactic scene did they find a viable race for creating new Reapers which prompted Sovereign to make his move. That's when the Signal failed and Sovereign started working on a plan B.

Regards

Julian

[drakmoor]

el master pr wrote...

Damn, another N7(if the assumption is correct). And here I was, hoping that the fact that Shepard and Kai Leng were the two of the three N7s we had seen on the game would make their confrontation even more epic...

Actually now that I think about it, its only the N that stands for special ops; the number is proficiency. Therefore Vega doesn't need be an N7 and can still be in the special forces unit... he could be more of an N4 or some such.

Edit - Thus keeping your desired epic confrontation between two of the three N7's in the game

Modifié par drakmoor, 25 août 2011 - 01:41 .

[shepskisaac]

Thrombin wrote...

I actually think it was humanity's arrival on the scene which precipitated Sovereign's attempt to send the Signal. The Collectors had been testing different races for years, presumably, trying to find one with the genetic makeup to be suitable for Reaper reproduction. Only when humanity entered the Galactic scene did they find a viable race for creating new Reapers which prompted Sovereign to make his move. That's when the Signal failed and Sovereign started working on a plan B.

Regards

Julian

From what I understand it was killing Sovereign that made the Reapers/Collectors select humans as the material for the next Reaper and that the Protheans tampered with the Keepers to prevent Severeign from contacting them and ordering them to open the Citadel Relay.

[Thargorichiban]

didymos1120 wrote...

Arcian wrote...

You know, general consensus says Mass Effect FTL is 4380 times faster than light.

4380 times. 4380.

At this speed, you can do 12 light years per day.

That's based on info about the standard ME cores used by current galactic civilization.  We know the Reapers use extremely large ones relative to that standard, and since max FTL velocity is proportional to ME core size, they're likely capable of significantly greater velocities.

Which is probably why it took them 3 years to get to the Milky Way instead of 3 decades.

[TK EL_]

From what I understand it was killing Sovereign that made the Reapers/Collectors select humans as the material for the next Reaper and that the Protheans tampered with the Keepers to prevent Severeign from contacting them and ordering them to open the Citadel Relay.

Yeah it was clearly this. I think a few people are forgetting that the citadel served a much greater purpose than just being a shortcut into the galaxy. It's main purpose was as a medium of crippling and destabilizing the entire galaxy as apart from the information gained from there, I think it was also stated that all other mass relays can be shut down/selectively activated from there minimalizing resistance and cooperation from the galaxy occupying races.

[Thargorichiban]

TK EL wrote...

From what I understand it was killing Sovereign that made the Reapers/Collectors select humans as the material for the next Reaper and that the Protheans tampered with the Keepers to prevent Severeign from contacting them and ordering them to open the Citadel Relay.

Yeah it was clearly this. I think a few people are forgetting that the citadel served a much greater purpose than just being a shortcut into the galaxy. It's main purpose was as a medium of crippling and destabilizing the entire galaxy as apart from the information gained from there, I think it was also stated that all other mass relays can be shut down/selectively activated from there minimalizing resistance and cooperation from the galaxy occupying races.

Which is probably why they started to make the first human reaper right away. Without the Citadel relay it could take the Reapers several hundred years to wipe out all intelligent resistance in the Milky Way.

Heck, it took around 100 years (according to Vigil) for the Reapers to wipe out the Prothean civilization and that's with the Reapers having full control of the Relays!

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106570284584284160

'@chaseBoyajian: Got the final broadcast schedule for @BioWarePulse at PAX... really cool #masseffect info and a few surprises!' "Can't Wait!"

Speculate away...

[Someone With Mass]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106570284584284160

'@chaseBoyajian: Got the final broadcast schedule for @BioWarePulse at PAX... really cool #masseffect info and a few surprises!' "Can't Wait!"

Speculate away...

FemShep's final look.

[ZenJestr]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106570284584284160

'@chaseBoyajian: Got the final broadcast schedule for @BioWarePulse at PAX... really cool #masseffect info and a few surprises!' "Can't Wait!"

Speculate away...

FemShep's final look.

no, they need one more voting session for her eye color

[cbutz]

Conrad Verner as a redshirt squadmate? Probably the result of the Femship voting, an announcement of a VA (like Kal'Reegar or even Vega if were lucky), some class info, and maybe a vague answer to a question about squad mate X.

[shepskisaac]

If I see Liara and Garrus again ugh...

[didymos1120]

IsaacShep wrote...

From what I understand it was killing Sovereign that made the Reapers/Collectors select humans as the material for the next Reaper and that the Protheans tampered with the Keepers to prevent Severeign from contacting them and ordering them to open the Citadel Relay.

I think that was what got their attention, but I don't think they just instantly went "Oh, we have got to have these guys on Team Reaper."  After that they decided to have the Collectors investigate humans and take some "test batches" to see what could be done with them (thus Praetorians and Scions), after which they moved on to actually trying them out as Reaper components.  I'm of the opinion that we didn't actually pass inspection until well into ME2. I mean, we know they were still running tests on us after Horizon because we found data about it on the Collector Ship, along with a lot of corpses of people that had just been killed and discarded while they were still on board.  Anyway, if we'd have failed, the HR Larva would have been scrapped, and the Reapers would just raze Earth once they got here.

[shepskisaac]

didymos1120 wrote...
"Oh, we have got to have these guys on Team Reaper."

xDDD This needs to be pritned on shirts

But I like all you've written. Just wish it was officially confirmed

[CroGamer002]

Arcian wrote...

No, you blew up their factory. Bye bye Reaper making.

One they can re-build and it's unnecessary in taking down organics.

And that's MAYBE if you destroyed it.

I can't recall we were ever promised anything like that. It has always been abundantly clear that ME2 was about stopping the Collectors. Everything else was irrelevant.

True, but...*

Yet again, this was not the point of ME2. The point was to stop the Collectors.

Yeah, a Reaper minions.

Like in ME1 with Saren and Geth.
Saren died and Geth were really weaken and this guys were very connected in Reaper invasion plot.
Collectors were just there.

They obviously didn't count on Shepard being brought back to life to stop them. Up until Shepard's return, they basically had their bases covered, picking off smaller colonies to start building the Reaper while the Fleet slowly made it's way to the Alpha Relay in order to hit Earth and really get the human juices flowing.

*question is why bother to abduct humans early?

They may have the capacity to be patient, but they can't afford to be patient any longer - not with the Citadel out of their control. If they wait any longer, the galactic species will develop their technology to a point where they can pose a serious threat to the Reapers. The Reapers DO NOT WANT.jpg that.

Yeah, but what's the point of abducting humans then?

Collectors could have just abduct few and see that humans are capable for creating new Reaper and wait for other Reapers to show up to create it.

[CroGamer002]

Arcian wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/106469649889247232

"@macwalterslives Was the Human-Reaper in #ME2 a new Vanguard? Or did the Reapers begin their FTL-return right after #ME1?"

"@GV_Arcian a) Was a new Reaper, being built. Reapers began #FTL after #ME1."

Finally a definitive answer to this age old question. Also, be right back - I have a bone to pick with the guys over at the ME Wiki.

Great, now I'll turn smudboy on this.

[CroGamer002]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/106570284584284160

'@chaseBoyajian: Got the final broadcast schedule for @BioWarePulse at PAX... really cool #masseffect info and a few surprises!' "Can't Wait!"

Speculate away...

James Vega VA?