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[Biotic Sage]

JeffZero wrote...

I won't feel insulted until more of the major decisions go down this route. Besides, for all we know there will be noteworthy ramifications of your choice in ME3 despite the outcome seemingly ripped from your hands further down the line.

It's disappointing, absolutely, but... it doesn't bother me too much. Again, so long as it doesn't become a 'repeat offender' kind of copout.

Obviously if this is one of the only things I won't be upset at all.  I just hope it's not indicative of the kind of thing we can expect from the rest of our decisions.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:28 .

[JeffZero]

BickDutt wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I won't feel insulted until more of the major decisions go down this route. Besides, for all we know there will be noteworthy ramifications of your choice in ME3 despite the outcome seemingly ripped from your hands further down the line.

It's disappointing, absolutely, but... it doesn't bother me too much. Again, so long as it doesn't become a 'repeat offender' kind of copout.

Sometimes I wonder if all Bioware fans are Titanic captains.

I resent the implication. I'd know an iceberg if I spotted one.

[Biotic Sage]

BickDutt wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I won't feel insulted until more of the major decisions go down this route. Besides, for all we know there will be noteworthy ramifications of your choice in ME3 despite the outcome seemingly ripped from your hands further down the line.

It's disappointing, absolutely, but... it doesn't bother me too much. Again, so long as it doesn't become a 'repeat offender' kind of copout.

Sometimes I wonder if all Bioware fans are Titanic captains.

And sometimes I wonder if all BSN users aren't Chicken Little.

[JeffZero]

As do I, Biotic Sage.

It's definitely the kind of thing to get cautious about.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I honestly am not all that bothered by Udina retooled as Councilor, so long as it is adequately acknowledged come ME3--preferably in conversations with Anderson himself.

That, and I sincerely doubt they're going this route with any other decision. This was clearly just a "special case" which they had to alter for whatever in the story to work out as intended, which is really rather typical and common in complex story writing.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:52 .

[CroGamer002]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/116200997851889664
"I'm both the books and comics, Udina is the Councilor. Is there a reason for that?"

"With the events of #Retribution Anderson has more pressing matters. If you ask me, he's a fed up with politicians. #ColdcockedUdina"

So the Councilor choice means nothing at all?

Well, might as well make Anderson Councilor simply to regain my Spectre status.

Well if the old Council is dead and put Anderson on Council, you can choose to get Spectre status.
Otherwise, you get nothing.

Also, Anderson tried to make good relationship with aliens, while Udina didn't give damn and makes situation worse( Thane loyalty).

[Nashiktal]

JeffZero wrote...

BickDutt wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I won't feel insulted until more of the major decisions go down this route. Besides, for all we know there will be noteworthy ramifications of your choice in ME3 despite the outcome seemingly ripped from your hands further down the line.

It's disappointing, absolutely, but... it doesn't bother me too much. Again, so long as it doesn't become a 'repeat offender' kind of copout.

Sometimes I wonder if all Bioware fans are Titanic captains.

I resent the implication. I'd know an iceberg if I spotted one.

So did the captain of the Titanic.

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/#!/CGaspur/status/116400820580397057

"Just got home from work, while you were playing games, the team is making ME3 shine!"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:38 .

[JeffZero]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CGaspur/status/116400820580397057

"Just got home from work, while you were playing games, the team is making ME3 shine!"

Pssh, I was busy reading about ME3!

._.;

[SandSanta]

Mesina2 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/116200997851889664
"I'm both the books and comics, Udina is the Councilor. Is there a reason for that?"

"With the events of #Retribution Anderson has more pressing matters. If you ask me, he's a fed up with politicians. #ColdcockedUdina"

So the Councilor choice means nothing at all?

Well, might as well make Anderson Councilor simply to regain my Spectre status.

Well if the old Council is dead and put Anderson on Council, you can choose to get Spectre status.
Otherwise, you get nothing.

Also, Anderson tried to make good relationship with aliens, while Udina didn't give damn and makes situation worse( Thane loyalty).

If you save the council, they prefer to deal with Udina who has much better political experience then Anderson.  In fact, they specifically request Udina by name.

[TobyHasEyes]

^ Not a debate about which choice is better, but about the consequences of each (or apparent lack of consequences..)

[Cancer Puppet]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Moar tweets!

About Vega:

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/116288134144204800
"Does this have something to do with the Fehl incident? Hmm? *nudgenudge* ;)"

"Fehl... Things there went badly. Very badly......."

Fehl. Epic Fehl. 


I'm sorry...

[AdmiralCheez]

About the Anderson/Udina decision:

Since Anderson was councilor for two solid years (and got some sh*t done in that time), and since it's the only way to regain Spectre status if you (intentionally or unintentionally) nuke the old council, I will continue recommending him for the position even if Udina picks up the role in ME3.

Seriously, after hearing Udina's speech at the end of ME1 (in council-nuking playthrough), I have categorized him as not only a dirtbag, but a power-hungry, creepy dirtbag. He's only getting my vote in one playthrough, and that's my Pure Renegade run.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Seriously, after hearing Udina's speech at the end of ME1 (in council-nuking playthrough), I have categorized him as not only a dirtbag, but a power-hungry, creepy dirtbag. He's only getting my vote in one playthrough, and that's my Pure Renegade run.

Creepy? the renegade alligment + council dead speech made by Udina kicks major ass. Far better than what Anderson says.

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...

Creepy? the renegade alligment + council dead speech made by Udina kicks major ass. Far better than what Anderson says.

Dunno, man.  He seemed to be hitting all the psycho-buttons.  "They WANT us to take control!!"  lol yeah keep telling yourself that, Donnel.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Creepy? the renegade alligment + council dead speech made by Udina kicks major ass. Far better than what Anderson says.

Dunno, man.  He seemed to be hitting all the psycho-buttons.  "They WANT us to take control!!"  lol yeah keep telling yourself that, Donnel.

Well I appreciated the emporer palpatine act.

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...

Well I appreciated the emporer palpatine act.

Oh yeah, definitely.

Udina: UNNNNNLIIIIIMITEEEDDD!!!  POWWAAAAAAHHH!!!!

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Udina: UNNNNNLIIIIIMITEEEDDD!!!  POWWAAAAAAHHH!!!!

I actually used that to describe the full renegade ending to my friend.

[Sebby]

Lizardviking wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Seriously, after hearing Udina's speech at the end of ME1 (in council-nuking playthrough), I have categorized him as not only a dirtbag, but a power-hungry, creepy dirtbag. He's only getting my vote in one playthrough, and that's my Pure Renegade run.

Creepy? the renegade alligment + council dead speech made by Udina kicks major ass. Far better than what Anderson says.

That's what made me love Udina.

[Saber Wolf]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Udina: UNNNNNLIIIIIMITEEEDDD!!!  POWWAAAAAAHHH!!!!

There should me an artwork for this. Would make my day.

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...

I actually used that to describe the full renegade ending to my friend.

It's an adequate description.

Besides, there's never a bad time to quote Star Wars.

[Someone With Mass]

Anderson just got tired of the politics. Who can blame him for that? I think politics is ungodly boring too.

[Leonia]

That would make Obi-wan very grumpy.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seboist wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Seriously, after hearing Udina's speech at the end of ME1 (in council-nuking playthrough), I have categorized him as not only a dirtbag, but a power-hungry, creepy dirtbag. He's only getting my vote in one playthrough, and that's my Pure Renegade run.

Creepy? the renegade alligment + council dead speech made by Udina kicks major ass. Far better than what Anderson says.

That's what made me love Udina.

Exactly.

If you used Anderson's speech on a street, people would ignore you, go "whatever" and continue on with their buisness. If you used Udina's speech then people will actually listen obdidient. Then in the end wear matching uniforms and start marching.

[Aggie Punbot]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Besides, there's never a bad time to quote Star Wars.

Sure there is. You're a doctor and have just delivered a baby boy that the parents have decided to name Luke. Saying 'Luke, I am your father' would probably upset the actual father.