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[AngusJimiKeith]

Doug4130 wrote...

It'll be out in March, people just take things like "we are aiming for a 2011 release" and "no multiplayer has been confirmed yet" as some kind of blood oath by Bioware

I never, ever, ever trust estimated release dates.

First of all, I believe the quote was something along the lines of "We will be looking at multiplayer for all future Mass Effect games, but Mass Effect 3 is a single player experience." (I shall link if I can find the video interview)

Second, the extent to which multiplayer has been detailed suggests it wasn't a simple change of heart. THey had this planned, and flat out lied about it. They knew they were going to include multiplayer but feared the reaction of the fans, so they lied.

[kregano]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

Doug4130 wrote...

It'll be out in March, people just take things like "we are aiming for a 2011 release" and "no multiplayer has been confirmed yet" as some kind of blood oath by Bioware

I never, ever, ever trust estimated release dates.

First of all, I believe the quote was something along the lines of "We will be looking at multiplayer for all future Mass Effect games, but Mass Effect 3 is a single player experience." (I shall link if I can find the video interview)

Second, the extent to which multiplayer has been detailed suggests it wasn't a simple change of heart. THey had this planned, and flat out lied about it. They knew they were going to include multiplayer but feared the reaction of the fans, so they lied.

To be fair, when your fanbase constantly overreacts to things and has a fairly consistent track record of being hostile to dissenting opinions, one would think that lieing would be the preferable option, especially when the co-op mode is special feature Z- meaning that they only recently got the system working the way they wanted. If they had announced it earlier and they couldn't get it to work, people would be ripping them for promising too much and/or being incompetent. It's a no win scenario for Bioware, so they took the slightly better option and are coming out ahead IMO.

[AngusJimiKeith]

Did you read the last sentence of my post? I completely agree with you. The hostility of the Bioware fanbase astounds me. I honestly can't blame them. I'm just trying to state what happened.

Also, truth be told, I didn't really follow the progression of the three "secret features"--I just know that they exist (well it's two now, but you get the point), so I wasn't aware they were having trouble with it. My bad.

Me personally--I'm all for co-op. What I'm iffy about is having it affect the single player. To quote Mordin, "Too many variables!!!!!!" I'm cautiously optimistic at this point.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Wonder if we will see trailers showcasing the MP any time soon...

[JoePilot]

Let's all rememember that EA MANDATED MULTIPLAYER in all new games back in March of 2010.

I for one look forward to the most thrilling, focus-tested, formulaic, PG-13 friendly, non-challenging, non-threatening, over-monetized, hyper-sexualized yet nudity free, anticlimactic and utterly disappointing finale that BiowEAre corporate has the ability to produce approve funding for. Yipeeeee, corporate culture!! Bring on those fourth-quarter profits!!!!

http://i52.tinypic.com/23mtvnm.jpgf

When the creation of art is motivated solely by the desire for money, you will end up with neither.

Modifié par JoePilot, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:58 .

[Blooddrunk1004]

JoePilot wrote...

Let's all rememember that EA MANDATED MULTIPLAYER in all new games back in March of 2010.

I for one look forward to the most thrilling, focus-tested, formulaic, PG-13 friendly, non-challenging, non-threatening, over-monetized, hyper-sexualized yet nudity free, anticlimactic and utterly disappointing finale that BiowEAre corporate has approved funding for. Yipeeeee, corporate culture!! Bring on those fourth-quarter profits!!!!

When the creation of art is motivated solely by the desire for money, you will end up with neither.

Sir, please take a sit.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:59 .

[Doug4130]

JoePilot wrote...

When the creation of art is motivated solely by the desire for money, you will end up with neither.

You could look at it like that, or look at it as constantly trying to better yourself and not rest on your laurels

[JoePilot]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Sir, please take a sit.

Hey, as long as you're happy with whatever you get for your money, by all means, more power to you.  I've got some E.T. for Atari cartridges you might be interested in buying.

Modifié par JoePilot, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:08 .

[aridor1570]

JoePilot wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Sir, please take a sit.

Hey, as long as you're happy with whatever you get for your money, by all means, more power to you.  I've got some E.T. for Atari cartridges you might be interested in buying.

You're also basing an entire company out of one game.

[JoePilot]

aridor1570 wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Sir, please take a sit.

Hey, as long as you're happy with whatever you get for your money, by all means, more power to you.  I've got some E.T. for Atari cartridges you might be interested in buying.

You're also basing an entire company out of one game.

2 games, actually.  One that has come out, and one that looks like it is following in the footsteps of the former as a result of the same corporate philosophy.  Is there some other metric I'm supposed to use to judge games that have come out - i.e., metacritic, and games that have not come out - statements by the company?

Modifié par JoePilot, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:11 .

[Tryphus]

EDIT: Nevermind, think what you want, I'm going to love this addition and countless others will too.

Modifié par Tryphus, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:16 .

[aridor1570]

JoePilot wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Sir, please take a sit.

Hey, as long as you're happy with whatever you get for your money, by all means, more power to you.  I've got some E.T. for Atari cartridges you might be interested in buying.

You're also basing an entire company out of one game.

2 games, actually.  One that has come out, and one that looks like it is following in the footsteps of the former as a result of the same corporate philosophy.  Is there some other metric I'm supposed to use to judge games that have come out - i.e., metacritic, and games that have not come out - statements by the company?

OH, so you hate ME3 because of MP? well then, that means you should also hate BG1&2 and NWN.

[Blooddrunk1004]

JoePilot wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Sir, please take a sit.

Hey, as long as you're happy with whatever you get for your money, by all means, more power to you.  I've got some E.T. for Atari cartridges you might be interested in buying.

You're also basing an entire company out of one game.

2 games, actually.  One that has come out, and one that looks like it is following in the footsteps of the former as a result of the same corporate philosophy.  Is there some other metric I'm supposed to use to judge games that have come out - i.e., metacritic, and games that have not come out - statements by the company?

You already played ME3, can i borrow your copy please?<_<

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:26 .

[JoePilot]

aridor1570 wrote...

OH, so you hate ME3 because of MP? well then, that means you should also hate BG1&2 and NWN.

No, I don't HATE anything.  Try reading.  I am saying that ME3 is being developed in a very prescribed, strict way that has absolutely nothing to do with what is best for the finale of the trilogy, and everything to do with a cynical, impassionate, lowest-common-denominator, paint-by-numbers calculation that they get X number of dollars for Y number of features.

If that's good enough for you, hey, no problem.  I'm glad you'll enjoy their product.  But since I consider myself an invested customer, I am voicing my displeasure with their ham-handed PR trying to cover their decline as a developer of quality games.

Modifié par JoePilot, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:40 .

[JoePilot]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

2 games, actually.  One that has come out, and one that looks like it is following in the footsteps of the former as a result of the same corporate philosophy.  Is there some other metric I'm supposed to use to judge games that have come out - i.e., metacritic, and games that have not come out - statements by the company?

You already played ME3 can i borrow your copy please?<_<

Try reading first.

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:26 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Not overly original...

[aridor1570]

JoePilot wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

OH, so you hate ME3 because of MP? well then, that means you should also hate BG1&2 and NWN.

No, I don't HATE anything.  Try reading.  I am saying that ME3 is being developed in a very proscribed, strict way that has absolutely nothing to do with what is best for the finale of the trilogy, and everything to do with a cynical, impassionate, lowest-common-denominator, paint-by-numbers calculation that they get X number of dollars for Y number of features.

If that's good enough for you, hey, no problem.  I'm glad you'll enjoy their product.  But since I consider myself an invested customer, I am voicing my displeasure with their ham-handed PR trying to cover their decline as a developer of quality games.

By that logic you should also be hating on ME2.

[Someone With Mass]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Don't start a new "awesome button"

The butthurt people are already obnoxious enough.

[JoePilot]

aridor1570 wrote...

By that logic you should also be hating on ME2.

You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

Modifié par JoePilot, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:38 .

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/#!/manveerheir/status/123596879069057026
"Have you done work on the mutiplayer stuff for #ME3? (the cat is out of the bag on the bioware forums: http://bit.ly/mPNAfc )"

"Yeah a small amount but worked mostly on single player classes"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:31 .

[noisecode]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Why should we take your word on that?   It was said that "Multiplayer will not be in mass effect 3"

You can't say "Take my word on it" after lieing about something.

[aridor1570]

noisecode wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Why should we take your word on that?   It was said that "Multiplayer will not be in mass effect 3"

You can't say "Take my word on it" after lieing about something.

They never said that.

[hotdogbsg]

noisecode wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/ForgedPixels/status/123784645056794624

"Here's a short Q&A for ME3 Multiplayer: "Should I give it a chance?" Yes. "Is that because it's awesome?" Yes. Thank you. No more questions."

Why should we take your word on that?   It was said that "Multiplayer will not be in mass effect 3"

You can't say "Take my word on it" after lieing about something.

Did Bioware ever come out and actually state there would be no Mulitplayer in ME3? Just curious.

I know here on BSN they always refused to comment on the rumours but never seemed to deny them outright.

Modifié par hotdogbsg, 11 octobre 2011 - 04:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

hotdogbsg wrote...

Did Bioware ever come out and actually state there would be no Mulitplayer in ME3? Just curious.

I know here on BSN they always refused to comment on the rumours but never seemed to deny them outright.

I have never seen them do that, and I'm a pretty frequent follower of the ME3 news.