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Kyle Kabanya

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

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No, no, no. Mass Effect franchise will not become like the Halo series. Pay attention Bioware, cause this will save you time and money:

1. No MMO
2. No RTS
3. No prequel
4. No story arc from another perspective; example Halo ODST

The only viable option is a sequel. Continue the franchise with another trilogy. I'm surprise Bungie finally got that right for the Halo series, took them three years.

ME franchise is a third person shooter, so that means no MMO or RTS. Prequels always have some major detail that doesn't fit the plotline or timeline from the original trilogy. Story arc, please. Those are the worst, cause you know that nothing in the story arc means nothing and isn't going to affect the overall story, and half the time its a character that nobody cares about, sorry Lileiana. (Can't spell her name, Dragon Age Origins) Witch Hunt was different, because it extended the story with the Warden, and his possible LI.

Here's some starting points: Everything takes place in the future and space travel has just started again.
Main villians
-Creator of the reapers
-New race that evolved and wasn't part of the former/current galactic society

The francise should die with the ending of ME3, but it won't. Seriously, the only way it to continue the franchise is through another trilogy, learn the mistakes from the first three.

Very, very wise words, but I doubt they will be heeded.

In the issue of GameInformer last summer focusing on ME3, Casey Hudson talked about doing a Mass Effect MMO. EA is a fan of the online shenanigans. It's only logical to assume something like that will be in the works soon if it isn't already. "The Final Hours" uncovered the existence of the precursor to the current MP - a first-person shooter that looked strangely like Halo with Mass Effect weapons, backgrounds, and vehicles. With their move to include MP in Mass Effect 3, it definitely indicates where their thoughts are headed on that front...and it's being successful. Many people have given up SP because of the endings and have taken refuge in MP. If this trend continues, we might very well see much more online-geared content in the future.

I hope to all that is holy that I'm wrong, but given what has been coming to light since this game released, I'm not optimistic.


I love the Mass Effect series, but I don't want to see EA abuse the sucess of the series by creating more games from it, unless its another trilogy to keep to the same gameplay.

I used to love the Halo series, but after they created Halo Wars, ODST, and Reach, I have lost all respect for the company. Now that they are making another trilogy, I might go back, because you stick with what works.

My pet peeve about MMOs is, that after you buy the game, you have to continue to pay to play the game. I like picking up a game and playing it whenever, not being forced to pay 20$ a month to play, after paying 60$ for the game. I'm a busy guy with work and classes, I hardly have much time to play except on weekends, so how fair is it to pay more for a game if I barely get to play it.  Plus I'm not much of a PC player, more of a 360.

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I actually think that the ME universe would make a very good MMO setting. Or at least it would have done before the ending of ME3.

But you couldn't possibly set one afterwards unless the ending actually is changed or IT'ed away - the fictional setting is kaput for any plausible future use. And setting an MMO in the past where you can't have world changing events because you've already stated the future of the universe just doesn't work (as Bioware are learning with TOR...).

I continue to be surprised that nobody from EA is making them change the ending for this reason alone.

Modifié par The Phazer, 24 avril 2012 - 01:52 .


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The Phazer wrote...

I actually think that the ME universe would make a very good MMO setting. Or at least it would have done before the ending of ME3.

But you couldn't possibly set one afterwards unless the ending actually is changed or IT'ed away - the fictional setting is kaput for any plausible future use. And setting an MMO in the past where you can't have world changing events because you've already stated the future of the universe just doesn't work (as Bioware are learning with TOR...).

I continue to be surprised that nobody from EA is making them change the ending for this reason alone.


A friend of mine asked me when ME3 came out where they would go next. Of course I said MMO, that is where the most money is at for certain titles. Even after the ending of ME3 they can, they just set it so many years in the future when everything is "different". Same as Blizzard did with WoW.

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There will be no MMO while TOR servers are up. They should follow Halo and do sequels with brand new story arcs. (no odst or reach stuff). I really like TOR, but no way in hell would I want a ME MMO.

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aberdash wrote...

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Bioware stays silent: people complain and dismiss as tight-lipped hubris.
Bioware gives vague updates: people assume the worst.

Win-win situation!

Fixed that for you. Cant blame them though.

Well vague is all they can be. I think the poster below mentioned NDA's. What else can they really do, you know, without risk of getting fired? At least it's something.

DonYourAviators wrote...Shouldn't have put themselves in that situation, I guess.



Right. I'm of the belief that this whole thing was somewhat planned, but went horribly, horribly wrong. Still, is it really productive to constantly bash and ridicule the creators of the game for what they've wrought or to provide calm, rational criticism? What's wrong with having a little faith and patience (no, not in the religious sense).

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I should probably point out that the people who were originally responsible for Halo (Bungie's got the first trilogy, ODST and Reach were Microsoft trying to milk it a bit more) no longer work on Halo. The franchise has moved solely to Microsoft, at 343i. Microsoft wanted to make another trilogy, but Bungie was a) moving more into the Sony market and B) didn't feel like milking the franchise anymore. I guess this is a good thing, though, because Halo means a lot to Microsoft, and they've been coddling Halo 4 for 5 years now.

I'd love to see ME become like Halo in that there's a brilliant new trilogy planned after the events of 1, 2 and 3. However, I do not want it to become Halo like being just an FPS with no real RPG elements and a huge MP section with PvP and all sorts of stuff. With the amount of autodialog we had in ME3...yeah, I'm not optimistic there, either. Unless EA gets their hands off the franchise, somehow.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I should probably point out that the people who were originally responsible for Halo (Bungie's got the first trilogy, ODST and Reach were Microsoft trying to milk it a bit more) no longer work on Halo. The franchise has moved solely to Microsoft, at 343i. Microsoft wanted to make another trilogy, but Bungie was a) moving more into the Sony market and B) didn't feel like milking the franchise anymore. I guess this is a good thing, though, because Halo means a lot to Microsoft, and they've been coddling Halo 4 for 5 years now.

I'd love to see ME become like Halo in that there's a brilliant new trilogy planned after the events of 1, 2 and 3. However, I do not want it to become Halo like being just an FPS with no real RPG elements and a huge MP section with PvP and all sorts of stuff. With the amount of autodialog we had in ME3...yeah, I'm not optimistic there, either. Unless EA gets their hands off the franchise, somehow.


It might be the negativity of these forums. But I think alot of us are hanging by a thread when it comes to BW and EA. I just hope that the EC is great.

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simfamSP wrote...

It might be the negativity of these forums. But I think alot of us are hanging by a thread when it comes to BW and EA. I just hope that the EC is great.


Well, hope and patience is a much better stance than immediately pulling a 'Turian Councillor" at every inkling of info given to us like much of the forum seems to do. At least wait for something concrete before rendering judgement, I'd say.

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twitter.com/#!/scyllacosta/status/194842364131553280

"It feels good to see how much cool content is planned for #ME3 DLC and MP"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 avril 2012 - 05:55 .


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CDRSkyShepard

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Unschuld wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

It might be the negativity of these forums. But I think alot of us are hanging by a thread when it comes to BW and EA. I just hope that the EC is great.


Well, hope and patience is a much better stance than immediately pulling a 'Turian Councillor" at every inkling of info given to us like much of the forum seems to do. At least wait for something concrete before rendering judgement, I'd say.

At this point, I'm not optimistic, but I'm not pessimistic, either.

I kind of gave up on optimism when I played the game. I gave BioWare the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things. I knew the endings were going to be terrible going in because a friend spoiled them for me, but I was sure there was something that I was missing. Surely it would be better in the game, right? Yeah...spoiler information didn't prepare me for the magnitude of the plot holes, nonsensical StarChild, and pretty much all of it.

I even defended BioWare's decision to do Day 1 DLC. I gave them a chance even when they announced MP. Now? Yeah, I'm pretty done with giving them the benefit of the doubt. As far as Extended Cut goes, I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

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omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/scyllacosta/status/194842364131553280

"It feels good to see how much cool content is planned for #ME3 DLC and MP"

"AND MP"

All of my hate. 

#16738
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MaximizedAction wrote...

omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305

Great advertising!

#16739
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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/scyllacosta/status/194842364131553280

"It feels good to see how much cool content is planned for #ME3 DLC and MP"

"AND MP"

All of my hate. 


sadly the "and" is probably a typo too...  

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305

Great advertising!


"like being left at the altar"  :)

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MaximizedAction wrote...

omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305


MADE MY DAY AND WEEK! Rofl...

#16742
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MaximizedAction wrote...

omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305

Brilliant haha :D

#16743
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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/scyllacosta/status/194842364131553280

"It feels good to see how much cool content is planned for #ME3 DLC and MP"

"AND MP"

All of my hate. 

Why does that inspire hatred? Did you actually think they weren't going to make more MP DLC?

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Unschuld wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

It might be the negativity of these forums. But I think alot of us are hanging by a thread when it comes to BW and EA. I just hope that the EC is great.


Well, hope and patience is a much better stance than immediately pulling a 'Turian Councillor" at every inkling of info given to us like much of the forum seems to do. At least wait for something concrete before rendering judgement, I'd say.


It's these forums surely... they're like drugs xD horrible but some how addicting. :lol:

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I got a feeling there will be more MP dlc than SP dlc.

They will hype some SP dlc and it would turn out to be a bloody alternative costume pack. 

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 24 avril 2012 - 09:16 .


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simfamSP wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

It might be the negativity of these forums. But I think alot of us are hanging by a thread when it comes to BW and EA. I just hope that the EC is great.


Well, hope and patience is a much better stance than immediately pulling a 'Turian Councillor" at every inkling of info given to us like much of the forum seems to do. At least wait for something concrete before rendering judgement, I'd say.


It's these forums surely... they're like drugs xD horrible but some how addicting. :lol:


I must be some sort of masochist, i always end up disapponted when ever i come onto these forums or get annoyed yet i just keep coming back for more.

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Atakuma wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/scyllacosta/status/194842364131553280

"It feels good to see how much cool content is planned for #ME3 DLC and MP"

"AND MP"

All of my hate. 

Why does that inspire hatred? Did you actually think they weren't going to make more MP DLC?

Maybe because we don't like the fact they're working on MP DLC? I'd gladly trade it all for a better SP experience. (I'm of the opinion that the Genophage and Rannoch arcs carry this game by themselves, and the rest is not up to par.)

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I think people have forgotten how to read. Since the word "and" apparently means 'singularly for' to this fanbase now instead of 'along side' or 'including'.

Modifié par xsdob, 24 avril 2012 - 10:27 .


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xsdob wrote...

I think people have forgotten how to read. Since the word "and" apparently means 'singularly for' to this fanbase now instead of 'along side' or 'including'.


I think you've forgotten BioWare :whistle:

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MaximizedAction wrote...

omg, it's full of stars:

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/194854916760674305


Godammit, you owe me a cola for that.

And a new monitor.