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[acidic-ph0]

Just adding my 2 cents here... No amount of "clarity" can ever turn a literal deus ex machina ending into something good.

Deus ex machina is practically synonymous with terrible writing and If the Extended Cut keeps the ending scene intact including starchild (which we've been told will happen) then yes, Bioware has already failed.

[shepskisaac]

devSin wrote...

That sold more copies in 24 hours (on one platform) than will likely be ME3's total lifetime sales (on all three platforms).

They have a bit of work to do, but they got so much right in bringing things forward. It'll be interesting to see how the current balance complaints pan out. Tons of fun, and it's still Diablo.

With 1.2 million coming from free copies all WOW annual pass subscribers got and huge asian sales (which ME3 doesn't have, Diablo is one of the very few western games to be big in Asia). Sure Diablo is big and bigger than ME series even when excluding all the free stuff, but even EA doesn't PR the numbers the way Activision does. EA for example didn't brag about free ME2 copies pople who got DA2 recieved.

Also, Call of Duty sells like 5 times what Diablo sells so sales argument is really not the greatest

Modifié par IsaacShep, 23 mai 2012 - 07:34 .

[kyg_20X6]

My mood was buoyed by this little exchange I had with Jessica Merizan:

(her original tweet was in reply to someone saying they want a 'happy ending')

https://twitter.com/...386319487180802

She's also confirms (in a tweet to someone else) that weird movements of the crew/Normandy will be explained in the EC:

https://twitter.com/...373998828236802

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 23 mai 2012 - 08:24 .

[VRtheTrooper]

Atakuma wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/manveerheir/status/205339103787622400
"Today at our gameplay design meeting we're going to discuss the design of Diablo III. Interested to hear the likes/dislikes of my colleagues"

It's nice that they have these kinds of meetings for that...I'd love to be a part of them =P

What's there to discuss? It's a hack'n'slash lootfest.

^this

it was fun 10 years ago. people will drop it soon enough. Blizzard is genious for selling the same game 3 times over. 

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/205434927951527936
"A preview for the Dark Horse Homeworlds comic that I helped with, starring Miss Vas Normandy: www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/20-459"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 23 mai 2012 - 11:16 .

[MrDbow]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/205434927951527936
"A preview for the Dark Horse Homeworlds comic that I helped with, starring Miss Vas Normandy: www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/20-459"

.... I question the art direction...

But story has potential...



... also, Weekes.

[devSin]

IsaacShep wrote...

With 1.2 million coming from free copies all WOW annual pass subscribers got and huge asian sales (which ME3 doesn't have, Diablo is one of the very few western games to be big in Asia).

I believe the 3.5 and 6+ million figures (first day and first week sales, respectively) are sans the free passes.

In any event, I wasn't really arguing anything. Except maybe that Diablo III has fun. ;-)

[xsdob]

SimplyNeo wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/205434927951527936
"A preview for the Dark Horse Homeworlds comic that I helped with, starring Miss Vas Normandy: www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/20-459"

.... I question the art direction...

But story has potential...



... also, Weekes.

the story I like as well from the preview, but the art style...I seem to not mind/ kinda like it.

...what is wrong with me?

[xsdob]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

the story I like as well from the preview, but the art style...I seem to not mind/ kinda like it.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png[/smilie]...what is wrong with me?

A lack of knowledge on quarian physiology, most likely, seeing as that comic gets much of it wrong; legs, blood colour, lack of a third toe...

Ah, I didn't notice the feet thing even when I googled a picture of tali's feet I missed the toe, took me a minute to notice it.

Also, this is the same comic company that did the bald female turian design. I can forgive the small stuff,

At least she doesn't look like a chimpanze like that batarian does. This is an interpretation, small inconsistencies I can forgive, things like quarians not wearing envirosuits like in deception I cannot.

Modifié par xsdob, 24 mai 2012 - 01:42 .

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205492753411473408
"I played some new stuff today from @ericFagnan , @CGaspur and the team which i believe is the best we've ever put out. I really can't wait."

My money is on MP stuff
could be wrong though...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 mai 2012 - 03:06 .

[shepskisaac]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205492753411473408
"I played some new stuff today from @ericFagnan , @CGaspur and the team which i believe is the best we've ever put out. I really can't wait."

My money is on MP stuff
could be wrong though...

Yeah, almost sure it's Rebellion DLC

[OneWithTheAssassins]

IsaacShep wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205492753411473408
"I played some new stuff today from @ericFagnan , @CGaspur and the team which i believe is the best we've ever put out. I really can't wait."

My money is on MP stuff
could be wrong though...

Yeah, almost sure it's Rebellion DLC

Why would multiplayer DLC be the best thing they ever put out. The last DLC that claimed that title was the Shadow Broker DLC. Why would a multiplayer DLC beat that? My money is on the EC.

[shepskisaac]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Why would multiplayer DLC be the best thing they ever put out. The last DLC that claimed that title was the Shadow Broker DLC. Why would a multiplayer DLC beat that? My money is on the EC.

But Eric and Corey are combat designers and they seem heavily involved in MP. EC is said to have no new gameplay so I don't think it could be it

[xsdob]

It begins. soon the phoenix class will be revealed.

[-Skorpious-]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205492753411473408
"I played some new stuff today from @ericFagnan , @CGaspur and the team which i believe is the best we've ever put out. I really can't wait."

My money is on MP stuff
could be wrong though...

Sorry, but this is the guy who claimed he didn't expect that fans would have a demand for "closure" in ME3 and that synthesis is the absolute optimal ending for the Mass Effect series. 

[Vertigo_1]

IsaacShep wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Why would multiplayer DLC be the best thing they ever put out. The last DLC that claimed that title was the Shadow Broker DLC. Why would a multiplayer DLC beat that? My money is on the EC.

But Eric and Corey are combat designers and they seem heavily involved in MP. EC is said to have no new gameplay so I don't think it could be it

Yep that's why I put my money down on MP stuff heh

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 mai 2012 - 03:47 .

[Icinix]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205492753411473408
"I played some new stuff today from @ericFagnan , @CGaspur and the team which i believe is the best we've ever put out. I really can't wait."

My money is on MP stuff
could be wrong though...

Sorry, but this is the guy who claimed he didn't expect that fans would have a demand for "closure" in ME3 and that synthesis is the absolute optimal ending for the Mass Effect series. 

Yeah, gamble is a by the numbers man.

He's seems pretty smart and knows his stuff when it comes anything by the numbers, but when it comes to player engagement and getting into players headspace he looks like he really struggles.

Which is something that BioWare as a whole has dropped off over the last few years.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

IsaacShep wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Why would multiplayer DLC be the best thing they ever put out. The last DLC that claimed that title was the Shadow Broker DLC. Why would a multiplayer DLC beat that? My money is on the EC.

But Eric and Corey are combat designers and they seem heavily involved in MP. EC is said to have no new gameplay so I don't think it could be it

While that may be true, do you know how many times Bioware has lied about almost everything since ME2? There could be new gameplay in the EC. Besides, we don't know what Bioware's definition of cutscene and gameplay are.

[Azucuache]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

She's also confirms (in a tweet to someone else) that weird movements of the crew/Normandy will be explained in the EC:

https://twitter.com/...373998828236802

Though it should have been explained in the original game....

[What?]

I'm feeling both apprehensive and mildly intrigued as these tweets are surfacing. On one hand, I feel like it might actually redeem the ending. On the other, I can't help but think they're going to maintain everything happened as it did, and just throw in a few extra scenes. Also a bit worried that the ending might make it to be where Shepard is sacrificed regardless of your EMS. I recall Weekes, on that letter attributed to him, stating he wouldn't mind Shepard dying as long as it was worthwhile.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 24 mai 2012 - 07:36 .

[Icinix]

VictorianTrash wrote...

I'm feeling both apprehensive and mildly intrigued as these tweets are surfacing. On one hand, I feel like it might actually redeem the ending. On the other, I can't help but think they're going to maintain everything happened as it did, and just throw in a few extra scenes. Also a bit worried that the ending might make it to be where Shepard is sacrificed regardless of your EMS. I recall Weekes, on that letter attributed to him, stating he wouldn't mind Shepard dying as long as it was worthwhile.

I hate the endings as is, no if buts or maybe, flat out loathe them.

But if the EC comes out and does nothing more than explain in an acceptable manner the starkid, the unusual developments and gives exclusive footage based on your choices. It will probably be enough for me.

Although everything after launching the point of no return mission is waaaay below par. These things should be enough to make me want to play more games with different outcomes and look at future DLC.

[Icinix]

simfamSP wrote...

VRtheTrooper wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/manveerheir/status/205339103787622400
"Today at our gameplay design meeting we're going to discuss the design of Diablo III. Interested to hear the likes/dislikes of my colleagues"

It's nice that they have these kinds of meetings for that...I'd love to be a part of them =P

What's there to discuss? It's a hack'n'slash lootfest.

^this

it was fun 10 years ago. people will drop it soon enough. Blizzard is genious for selling the same game 3 times over. 

Is it just me, or isn't that what most people want? More of the same in a different plate with some extra stuff added on the side?

Yep. You see this is something that EA has never ever grasped.

If you call a game Starcraft - you keep all future iterations of Starcraft sequels the same. If you call a game Diablo - you keep all future itereations of the Diablo sequels the same. Spinoffs are fine, but you don't make them sequels or follow on games - you make them alternate genres that sidestep the original IP.

EA decides to continue the series into sequels and drastically changes the gameplay and the heart and soul of the game. Sometimes to devastating affect.

You want to know why COD, Asassins Creed, Starcraft and Diablo sell without changing anything major? Because fans know what they're going to get, they know they can drop $100 on a game and its going to be more of the same awesome they love. Those games spent years building up huge fan bases who loved the series - despite some of those big name franchises getting mixed reviews and opinions when first released.

You want to innovate and experiment? C&C4, for example, is not the place you do it. Make a new game.

Modifié par Icinix, 24 mai 2012 - 09:23 .