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[RocketManSR2]

Krogangreetings wrote...

dam you multi fans are well catered for loads of free DLC

I wish SP got this kind of love and I'm not talking about DLC (I know and agree that EC comes before all else) I'm talking about all the bugs and EMS issues still needing patching

Oh, and don't forget all the MP-only weapons. MP is only allowed to affect SP in ways we hate. Have you noticed that? (Unless you happen to play on PC and mod your game)

[Splinter Cell 108]

xsdob wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why is that DLC free? Does anyone know if it will bring anything into single player or is it going to be the same thing as Resurgence? I'm srarting to think they care less and less about SP and more about that MP mode that is basically a horde mode ripoff.

You do realize that in all the letters, tweets, messages, and everything sent to bioware all specifically said that there would be no dlc purchased by the fanbase and that the boycott would continue until the ending issue was adressed.

So they put all the efforts into finding a balanced approach to solving the problem of the endings so that fans would actually want dlc again.

If you want to blame anyone for the lack of singleplayer dlc, blame retake and htl for it. They're trying to now shift blame to bioware montreal and austin for the focused effort of the extended cut.

I think you misunderstand me. I just wanted to know why it was free, after all this is the second time we get free DLC. EA and free aren't usually mutually exclusive much less twice in a row. As for SP I just don't like the facr that these weapons, missions and powers are not being made available to us but they are for MP. Why can't they do both? Do I have to resort to modding when I finally start playing SP again? 

I agree with their decision to not release any SP DLC but weapons should be for both regardless of the circumstances and yes I know this sounds like typical BSN complaints. I guess part of it has to do with not knowing anything about the EC and my skepticism. 

[xsdob]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why is that DLC free? Does anyone know if it will bring anything into single player or is it going to be the same thing as Resurgence? I'm srarting to think they care less and less about SP and more about that MP mode that is basically a horde mode ripoff.

You do realize that in all the letters, tweets, messages, and everything sent to bioware all specifically said that there would be no dlc purchased by the fanbase and that the boycott would continue until the ending issue was adressed.

So they put all the efforts into finding a balanced approach to solving the problem of the endings so that fans would actually want dlc again.

If you want to blame anyone for the lack of singleplayer dlc, blame retake and htl for it. They're trying to now shift blame to bioware montreal and austin for the focused effort of the extended cut.

I think you misunderstand me. I just wanted to know why it was free, after all this is the second time we get free DLC. EA and free aren't usually mutually exclusive much less twice in a row. As for SP I just don't like the facr that these weapons, missions and powers are not being made available to us but they are for MP. Why can't they do both? Do I have to resort to modding when I finally start playing SP again? 

I agree with their decision to not release any SP DLC but weapons should be for both regardless of the circumstances and yes I know this sounds like typical BSN complaints. I guess part of it has to do with not knowing anything about the EC and my skepticism. 

oh, my apologies.

It would help tremendously if they included the dlc's for multiplayer into the single playerc campaign, as well as give any information on the extended cut. I can understand the rational behind it, they want anything they add into the dlc to be a surprise, and it wouldn't be too far of a strech to say that there is a chance the extended cut will come with the multiplayer weapons and equipment as well.

As for the part about it being free, I think it's a multitude of things. Bioware is still bioware, they still care about the fans and want to show that any way they can, making the dlc free is one of those ways. EA also want's to look good in the press and depict themselves as not being anti-fanbase in it's approaches, so it's allowing the free dlc as a bit of good pr and to help clean up their image after the worst company in the world fiasco. Another fact is that the store for the multiplayer has the option of being purchasable with real money, this means that they can still make some profit, though not much since they also allow in game credit and make it easy to earn and collect as well, unlike other microtransaction games where earning in game credit is made next to impossible or not offered at all. They may also be trying to maintain peoples interest in the game and buidling up credibility so that people give the extended cut a chance.

So it's a whole multitude of reasons, none more than the other, that is creating an atmosphere of customer and fan freindly practicies to take place.

Personally, I couldn't be happier, free dlc that's normally worth at least 400 microsoft points( 5.00) in my opinion.

But what I'm really looking forward to is come july or august, that's more than likley when information about what's in the extended cut starts to slowly leak out onto the internet.

Modifié par xsdob, 24 mai 2012 - 11:23 .

[devSin]

The money in multiplayer comes from people purchasing packs and unlocks and whatever.

The multiplayer DLC will always be free because it makes the most sense—you want as many people to have access to the content as possible, and you want to lure as many people as you can back into playing and spending money on the packs and other content.

Single-player DLC will not be free (except the extended cut), because the only chance you have to make money is the price you initially charge for it. This is not the case with multiplayer (and the reason multiplayer is even there is because EA knows they can get a continuous source of income from it).

The content is not created for single-player and may not be balanced for it. As well, the maps would require additional work to be inserted into the single-player campaign. Hopefully they will eventually find their way into the single-player game, but it's not something that will ever happen simultaneously. (The powers will never appear, unless with an additional squadmate or on enemies in future DLC, but hopefully the maps and some of the weapons can be used in some fashion.)

[Splinter Cell 108]

xsdob wrote...

oh, my apologies.

It would help tremendously if they included the dlc's for multiplayer into the single playerc campaign, as well as give any information on the extended cut. I can understand the rational behind it, they want anything they add into the dlc to be a surprise, and it wouldn't be too far of a strech to say that there is a chance the extended cut will come with the multiplayer weapons and equipment as well.

As for the part about it being free, I think it's a multitude of things. Bioware is still bioware, they still care about the fans and want to show that any way they can, making the dlc free is one of those ways. EA also want's to look good in the press and depict themselves as not being anti-fanbase in it's approaches, so it's allowing the free dlc as a bit of good pr and to help clean up their image after the worst company in the world fiasco. Another fact is that the store for the multiplayer has the option of being purchasable with real money, this means that they can still make some profit, though not much since they also allow in game credit and make it easy to earn and collect as well, unlike other microtransaction games where earning in game credit is made next to impossible or not offered at all. They may also be trying to maintain peoples interest in the game and buidling up credibility so that people give the extended cut a chance.

So it's a whole multitude of reasons, none more than the other, that is creating an atmosphere of customer and fan freindly practicies to take place.

Personally, I couldn't be happier, free dlc that's normally worth at least 400 microsoft points( 5.00) in my opinion.

But what I'm really looking forward to is come july or august, that's more than likley when information about what's in the extended cut starts to slowly leak out onto the internet.

I hope you're right, because I really want to play and like ME3. I just hope the EC turns out to be good, I hope that the lack of information proves that they are working hard. 

devSin wrote...
The money in multiplayer comes from people purchasing packs and unlocks and whatever.
The multiplayer DLC will always be free because it makes the most sense—you want as many people to have access to the content as possible, and you want to lure as many people as you can back into playing and spending money on the packs and other content.

I don't believe that IMO. Why not just charge for both then? EA is perfectly capable of doing that. I can believe that the whole idea behind making packs give you random stuff was made to upset people and trick them into paying. However I still think that they could have just charged for both things. In the end I think it is unethical to charge for packs but that's business with its fine lines and grey areas I guess. Nonetheless, I don't think it is free just because of that reason. 

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205905962098364416
"These MP expansions are a lot more than 'map packs'. They literally take months of time, and they involve all teams. Each new kit is..."

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205906198623555584
"...a finely tuned machine. Each with custom animation, VO, powers, and unique gameplay ability. Weapons are constantly iterated for weeks."

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205906290759843841
"Needless to say, i am extremely proud of the team, and the amazing pace they are able to sustain."

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 25 mai 2012 - 06:30 .

[Esbatty]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205905962098364416
"These MP expansions are a lot more than 'map packs'. They literally take months of time, and they involve all teams. Each new kit is..."

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205906198623555584
"...a finely tuned machine. Each with custom animation, VO, powers, and unique gameplay ability. Weapons are constantly iterated for weeks."

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/205906290759843841
"Needless to say, i am extremely proud of the team, and the amazing pace they are able to sustain."

I love how they're spaced out. Just when I'm starting to get frustrated or no longer feel sufficiently invested anymore. BAM! New Expansion. And its free! ... unless I get impatient and I just got paid.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Hey guys, just got back from Gamestop a couple hours ago. I talked to one of the emplyees about the EC DLC and when it might be released. He informed me that he was told that Bioware's looking at a mid July to late August relase and that they've only recoreded half of the dialogue so far. Just thought I'd mention that. Not trying to bull sh*t anyone.

[xsdob]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hey guys, just got back from Gamestop a couple hours ago. I talked to one of the emplyees about the EC DLC and when it might be released. He informed me that he was told that Bioware's looking at a mid July to late August relase and that they've only recoreded half of the dialogue so far. Just thought I'd mention that. Not trying to bull sh*t anyone.

I bet it gets pushed back to september, these types of things always happen. If not, I will be pleasently surprised.

[TheDrekey]

Well... he's a really really important store clerk. He's also a secret agent and sometimes he could swear he has super power...

Its possible...

[LuckySe7enty]

the dlc isnt technically free outside the 2 maps, we should thank those who spend hundreds of dollars etc on packs that amkes EA more money than if they charged for mp whole.

[DarthSliver]

Unschuld wrote...

Arcian wrote...

>Distance between hat and head = level of excitement
>Hat rises = Rebellion rumor is leaked, Phoenix might be protheans
>Head rises to catch the hat and crush its dreams of flight = Rebellion announced with even more boring humans in MP

I kinda had a hunch it was Protheans, but I'm actually more relieved that it's not. Suddenly Protheans all over multiplayer would really marginalize and diminish the uniqueness of Javik, no matter how cool it would be. Since they've been loosely tying in multiplayer operations with the progression of single player, it would have been a hell of a thing to explain where all those Protheans came from.

Then again, I think the system that contained Ilos is one of the highlighted areas that you can't access in SP yet, so anything is possible...  
(yeah, I know they're all supposed to be dead there) 

I wouldnt mine Protheans being added into MP but I honestly think that one will be a SP/MP dlc addon and not just a straight up MP DLC. Id love to use Dark Channel in MP and it would make alot more sense with the power coming out of a Prothean than any ol' adept lol. Doesnt feel right when I have my Shepard use it in SP

As for someone wondering why MP DLC is free, id like to say something on that part. I truly thought Bioware would go the route of adding MP stuff in a SP DLC since Mass Effect is SP before MP. 

[Srefanius]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why is that DLC free? Does anyone know if it will bring anything into single player or is it going to be the same thing as Resurgence? I'm srarting to think they care less and less about SP and more about that MP mode that is basically a horde mode ripoff.

I think its quite simple: They won't release sp stuff before the EC. They are working also on other sp things for sure, but EC has top priority.

[Atakuma]

simfamSP wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hey guys, just got back from Gamestop a couple hours ago. I talked to one of the emplyees about the EC DLC and when it might be released. He informed me that he was told that Bioware's looking at a mid July to late August relase and that they've only recoreded half of the dialogue so far. Just thought I'd mention that. Not trying to bull sh*t anyone.

How does a Gamestop employee know anything about the VA being recorded?

A gamestop employee wouldn't know anything about the EC period. It's not like they're going to stock codes for a free dlc.

[DarthSliver]

Atakuma wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hey guys, just got back from Gamestop a couple hours ago. I talked to one of the emplyees about the EC DLC and when it might be released. He informed me that he was told that Bioware's looking at a mid July to late August relase and that they've only recoreded half of the dialogue so far. Just thought I'd mention that. Not trying to bull sh*t anyone.

How does a Gamestop employee know anything about the VA being recorded?

A gamestop employee wouldn't know anything about the EC period. It's not like they're going to stock codes for a free dlc.

Might only be free for people with an Online Pass

[AVPen]

Atakuma wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hey guys, just got back from Gamestop a couple hours ago. I talked to one of the emplyees about the EC DLC and when it might be released. He informed me that he was told that Bioware's looking at a mid July to late August relase and that they've only recoreded half of the dialogue so far. Just thought I'd mention that. Not trying to bull sh*t anyone.

How does a Gamestop employee know anything about the VA being recorded?

A gamestop employee wouldn't know anything about the EC period. It's not like they're going to stock codes for a free dlc.

^ This.... I also asked an employee at my Gamestop just the other day about if he or Gamestop had heard anything about the EC or when it might get released. You know what his response was?
"Not a damn thing... sadly." 

Modifié par AVPen, 25 mai 2012 - 09:50 .

[Esbatty]

My favorite is when GS employees are BSing to try to get you to preorder something. They make bigger promises than Molyneux.

[DarthSliver]

Esbatty wrote...

My favorite is when GS employees are BSing to try to get you to preorder something. They make bigger promises than Molyneux.

Well i like my Gamestop i go to, they dont BS. If a game gets a bad review they straight up tell me and my friend that it got a bad review and what not. Honestly is how you keep your customers BSing is when you take your chance are losing them because if your customers realize they are being BSed they probably wont come back. There is a local Walmart, Target, or Best Buy that sells the same games as Gamestop, unless you relay on trading in older games for new ones. 

Enough about Gamestop on my part, I just hope EC is in the summer time since i swore i remember it being said it would be released this summer

[Getorex]

xsdob wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why is that DLC free? Does anyone know if it will bring anything into single player or is it going to be the same thing as Resurgence? I'm srarting to think they care less and less about SP and more about that MP mode that is basically a horde mode ripoff.

You do realize that in all the letters, tweets, messages, and everything sent to bioware all specifically said that there would be no dlc purchased by the fanbase and that the boycott would continue until the ending issue was adressed.

So they put all the efforts into finding a balanced approach to solving the problem of the endings so that fans would actually want dlc again.

If you want to blame anyone for the lack of singleplayer dlc, blame retake and htl for it. They're trying to now shift blame to bioware montreal and austin for the focused effort of the extended cut.

I think you misunderstand me. I just wanted to know why it was free, after all this is the second time we get free DLC. EA and free aren't usually mutually exclusive much less twice in a row. As for SP I just don't like the facr that these weapons, missions and powers are not being made available to us but they are for MP. Why can't they do both? Do I have to resort to modding when I finally start playing SP again? 

I agree with their decision to not release any SP DLC but weapons should be for both regardless of the circumstances and yes I know this sounds like typical BSN complaints. I guess part of it has to do with not knowing anything about the EC and my skepticism. 

oh, my apologies.

It would help tremendously if they included the dlc's for multiplayer into the single playerc campaign, as well as give any information on the extended cut. I can understand the rational behind it, they want anything they add into the dlc to be a surprise, and it wouldn't be too far of a strech to say that there is a chance the extended cut will come with the multiplayer weapons and equipment as well.

As for the part about it being free, I think it's a multitude of things. Bioware is still bioware, they still care about the fans and want to show that any way they can, making the dlc free is one of those ways. EA also want's to look good in the press and depict themselves as not being anti-fanbase in it's approaches, so it's allowing the free dlc as a bit of good pr and to help clean up their image after the worst company in the world fiasco. Another fact is that the store for the multiplayer has the option of being purchasable with real money, this means that they can still make some profit, though not much since they also allow in game credit and make it easy to earn and collect as well, unlike other microtransaction games where earning in game credit is made next to impossible or not offered at all. They may also be trying to maintain peoples interest in the game and buidling up credibility so that people give the extended cut a chance.

So it's a whole multitude of reasons, none more than the other, that is creating an atmosphere of customer and fan freindly practicies to take place.

Personally, I couldn't be happier, free dlc that's normally worth at least 400 microsoft points( 5.00) in my opinion.

But what I'm really looking forward to is come july or august, that's more than likley when information about what's in the extended cut starts to slowly leak out onto the internet.

Please.  Bioware doesn't "care about the fans" anymore than they "listen to the fans".  They HAVE to release it free because they f*cked up big time and you would not ever hear the end of it if they actually tried to SELL the dlc in order to fix a broken game, broken story.  They CAN'T charge for it because they would lose the majority of their customer base.  Care about the fans...sheesh, what Pollyanna nonsense.  

They aren't all huggy-kissy.  They are a business trying to suck money out of turnips.  One false move and those turnips will dry up entirely.

[Getorex]

Srefanius wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Why is that DLC free? Does anyone know if it will bring anything into single player or is it going to be the same thing as Resurgence? I'm srarting to think they care less and less about SP and more about that MP mode that is basically a horde mode ripoff.

I think its quite simple: They won't release sp stuff before the EC. They are working also on other sp things for sure, but EC has top priority.

They would get their @sses handed to them cooked to a crisp if they tried charging for sh*t before they at least TRY and fix the disaster.  They wont fix it with the EC, of course, merely extend and pretend that they fixed it but a few people will be happy with it (if the EC gives at least one indication of a no-question happy ending - some people are easy to please that way).  THOSE people will be inclined to pay for subsequent dlc but Bioware MUST do the EC before they can get even that trickle of customers back.

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/206402784864645121
"Will you be attending #e3 this year? or for that matter will Bioware be showing anything?"

"I won't be at E3 as its always more of a PR and brand event rather than a Community one. I'll be at SDCC though. =)"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 mai 2012 - 07:29 .

[xsdob]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/206402784864645121
"Will you be attending #e3 this year? or for that matter will Bioware be showing anything?"

"I won't be at E3 as its always more of a PR and brand event rather than a Community one. I'll be at SDCC though. =)"

At least he gave a heads up about what the E3 involvement will be about.

InB4TheHate.

Modifié par xsdob, 26 mai 2012 - 07:53 .

[Atakuma]

xsdob wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/BioEvilChris/status/206402784864645121
"Will you be attending #e3 this year? or for that matter will Bioware be showing anything?"

"I won't be at E3 as its always more of a PR and brand event rather than a Community one. I'll be at SDCC though. =)"

At least he gave a heads up about what the E3 involvement will be about.

InB4TheHate.

E3 is a press only event, so that isn't exactly unexpected.