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[Fraevar]

This has been mentioned all over the internet. Yes, calling this game "Dragon Age II" was a mistake as it automatically makes people think they will get a game on the same scale as "Dragon Age: Origins".

Personally I think they should have stuck to their original title for this project: "Dragon Age: Exodus". The demo contained some old files showing that was the name they started out with. And they should have stopped Marketing before they went nuts with the sequel speak, if they'd marketed this as AC: Brootherhood, a different kind of game set in the same world, they could have nipped a lot of the negativity in the bud, but no, the devs let Marketing run amok with SEQUEL SEQUEL SEQUEL.

[Dragoonlordz]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Personally I think they should have stuck to their original title for this project: "Dragon Age: Exodus". The demo contained some old files showing that was the name they started out with. And they should have stopped Marketing before they went nuts with the sequel speak, if they'd marketed this as AC: Brootherhood, a different kind of game set in the same world, they could have nipped a lot of the negativity in the bud, but no, the devs let Marketing run amok with SEQUEL SEQUEL SEQUEL.

Agreed

• Embark upon an all-new adventure that takes place across an entire partaking in three out of seven years within a decade and shapes itself around every no decision you make.
  
• Determine your Hawkes rise to power rise to the illusion of power from a destitute refugee to the revered champion scapegoat of the land.
  
• Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.
  
• Go deeper into the world of Dragon Age city of Kirkwall with an entirely new a mass effect style cinematic experience that grabs hold of you kicks you in the balls from the beginning and never lets go wish would end sooner rather than later.
  
• Discover a whole realm the same maps over and over, rendered in stunning lackluster detail with updated  different graphics and a new visual style.

So do you think Bioware/EA will give me a job doing the marketing?  You would totally hire me right? Yeh you know you would! Your just in denial about it...

I'll give EA credit for one thing they are good at puffing up/promoting a product and getting away with it, they tricked me good and proper.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 mai 2011 - 09:37 .

[Ponendus]

Stanley Woo wrote...

mindbody wrote...
Is your contribution to threads recently an indication that Bioware is re-engaging the fanbase after some hard self-evaluation?  Or are you trying to woo us back to the fold? Woe unto the woo-er.

I never stopped engaging the fanbase... except during my 2-week vacation. I've always been here. It's just a lot more difficult to get a word in edgewise when every other post is insulting my job, my intelligence, my employer, my project, my industry, etc. It's a lot easier to actually have a conversation now with more interesting topics being discussed, with people who prefer to have a discussion rather than an argument... or a trial.

I completely understand this. I had a feeling one major reason we weren't hearing much from the devs is that every other post is putting down something you guys clearly worked hard on - which can't be easy.

Anyhow, I honestly like 'Dragon Age: Kirkwall Chronicles' and I just want to throw my support behind the change if it happens. I truly think one of the reasons I didn't connect with DA2 is simply its name. It's in a different boat to DAO, the name should reflect that imo.

[StreetlightEagle]

I still believe its another ME2 thing again.

"Mass Effect just slapped a 2 on and that sold well!"
"Yeah but that was much more of an honest sequel in terms of--"
"Mass Effect did it. Mass Effect. Sold. Well."

[Ottemis]

^ Honestly I'd contact his ISP so then can cut his supply off for this spam.

[Tommy6860]

Dragon Age: Swords and Sorcerers
<Snarky>
Draggin Age: Been There, Done That
Dragon Age: Memory Lane
Dragon Age: Déjà Vu

[ARustyFirePlace]

Dragon age 3: Hawke Goes to Hollywood

[ARustyFirePlace]

Quoted Spam deleted

I don't quite understand, could you post it again please?

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 12 mai 2011 - 04:41 .

[Perles75]

DA2 is so focused on Hawke and his rise to power that he must be included somehow in the title. This is why I don't like Kirkwall Chronicles or Exodus as titles. For this reason I prefer
Rise of the Champion, or
Champion Chronicles, or
the Champion of Kirkwall (too long?)

[Valcutio]

Stanley Woo wrote...

It probably won't happen, but it's an interesting suggestion. I can see how some folks might have had different expectations of the game if it had had a different name. That said, what would y'all have named it instead of Dragon Age II?

So far, i've seen Dragon Age: Kirkwall Chronicles and Champions of Kirkwall. i like the sound of Dragon Age: Hawke, but until you play the game, it doesn't really mean much of anything. It just sounds neat.

(Let's try to keep it clean and free of backhanded insults, please.)

I think a renaming of the game would go a long way towards making peace with the DA fanbase. Not sure how ya would pull it off. Perhaps release an expansion that overrides a large portion of the main game and includes enough changes to warrant a name change. And for the record I'm a fan of all 3 name changes.

Stanley, this would be something to fight for. Just saying.

[Zeevico]

Valcutio wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It probably won't happen, but it's an interesting suggestion. I can see how some folks might have had different expectations of the game if it had had a different name. That said, what would y'all have named it instead of Dragon Age II?

So far, i've seen Dragon Age: Kirkwall Chronicles and Champions of Kirkwall. i like the sound of Dragon Age: Hawke, but until you play the game, it doesn't really mean much of anything. It just sounds neat.

(Let's try to keep it clean and free of backhanded insults, please.)

I think a renaming of the game would go a long way towards making peace with the DA fanbase. Not sure how ya would pull it off. Perhaps release an expansion that overrides a large portion of the main game and includes enough changes to warrant a name change. And for the record I'm a fan of all 3 name changes.

Stanley, this would be something to fight for. Just saying.

Not really. It implies that there will be a "DA2" in the works more in line fan expectations. It implies that the current
DA2 threw a spanner in the works, which is a little like saying "please don't buy our game."
That's unlikely.

Anyway, good luck with those DLCs. Looking forward to waves and waves of enemies along with with more recycled environments. That's what was so good about Vale's DLC. Oh, that and the four (alright, maybe eight) additional lines of dialogue in his quest. On the upside, you didn't have the cash to put him in Act 1 so we got less exposure to his whiny one-note personality. On tthe downside, this is no way to make a DLC. And Bioware charged extra for it. Wonderful.

Oh yeah, the item pack. That really redeemed the franchise. Thank goodness you had people working on that item pack rather than implementing actual items with descriptions in the game. That would be disastrous.

Modifié par Zeevico, 12 mai 2011 - 03:47 .

[dmmmmmmmm]

Dragon Age: Gold Rush?

[MorrigansLove]

The next game should be called Dragon Age 2: The real sequel.

[Zeevico]

This game should be called Dragon Age: We Didn't Have The Money To Make A Proper Sequel So You Got This Instead. Still, At Least There's A Facebook DA Game, If You Get Bored.

It's a mouthful but I'm sure we'll get used to it.

Modifié par Zeevico, 12 mai 2011 - 03:49 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Or...they could just call the next game "Dragon Age II: The Apology."

[RaenImrahl]

ARustyFirePlace... please don't feed the trolls. Thank you.

[Youknow]

I don't think the name should be changed as of now, but if it had a different name beforehand, it would have been better for it probably.

I mean, think about it this way: when you see "2," I think it usually gives the audience expectations that the game will be more or less similar to the other game. Whether it be because it continues from the last installment, like Xenosaga, or because the games are similar in how they play, ala Dragon Quest. While there are exceptions, such as Final Fantasy (which is another monster in itself that might be having some problems because they keep everything named Final Fantasy so often), but those are few and far in-between. It's the naming that I believe are the  reasons that some people rage at say... Zelda II, despite the fact that it's clearly not that terrible, but then will turn around and give something like say Shining Tears (a deviation from the Shining Force games) -- a game with far less polish -- an nod for being okay. Simply because of the way its named (not that people LIKE it more overall mind you).

In this case, Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Origins do not share enough similarities from a gameplay or story perspective to just put "Dragon Age 2" on there and call it a day. The plot is different, the theme is no where near Origins, the journey is far more personal, and most importantly, the characters aren't doing anything that is particularly affiliated with the old cast of characters. Sure the new characters have some connections with the older characters, and the older characters DO make appearances, but they are little more than cameos for the most part. It's not like say, Suikoden where it is clearly established that there is a specific timeline for the series, and anything that's out there-- like Suikoden Tactics or Suikoden Tierkreis -- are given different names, because they are loosely affiliated with the series in comparison to the other ones. Putting a "2" does both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 itself a disservice in my opinion simply because the "2" is highly deceptive for what it's going to be about. What's worse, is that I'm fairly certain that you guys never MEANT for this to happen. When I preordered Dragon Age 2, I preordered it expecting it to be similar to Dragon Age Origins, and while I did not think it would be the same game, I did expect it to be closer to Dragon Age: Origins, than not.

As for what I would name it? That is tough to say, but reading through the forums, I am fond of "Champion of Kirkwall" and "Exodus." Though putting "Exodus" like that would remind me of Ultima. But hey, that's fine by me.

[ARustyFirePlace]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 12 mai 2011 - 05:38 .

[Edhriano]

Youknow wrote...

I don't think the name should be changed as of now, but if it had a different name beforehand, it would have been better for it probably.

I mean, think about it this way: when you see "2," I think it usually gives the audience expectations that the game will be more or less similar to the other game. Whether it be because it continues from the last installment, like Xenosaga, or because the games are similar in how they play, ala Dragon Quest. While there are exceptions, such as Final Fantasy (which is another monster in itself that might be having some problems because they keep everything named Final Fantasy so often), but those are few and far in-between. It's the naming that I believe are the  reasons that some people rage at say... Zelda II, despite the fact that it's clearly not that terrible, but then will turn around and give something like say Shining Tears (a deviation from the Shining Force games) -- a game with far less polish -- an nod for being okay. Simply because of the way its named (not that people LIKE it more overall mind you).

In this case, Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Origins do not share enough similarities from a gameplay or story perspective to just put "Dragon Age 2" on there and call it a day. The plot is different, the theme is no where near Origins, the journey is far more personal, and most importantly, the characters aren't doing anything that is particularly affiliated with the old cast of characters. Sure the new characters have some connections with the older characters, and the older characters DO make appearances, but they are little more than cameos for the most part. It's not like say, Suikoden where it is clearly established that there is a specific timeline for the series, and anything that's out there-- like Suikoden Tactics or Suikoden Tierkreis -- are given different names, because they are loosely affiliated with the series in comparison to the other ones. Putting a "2" does both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 itself a disservice in my opinion simply because the "2" is highly deceptive for what it's going to be about. What's worse, is that I'm fairly certain that you guys never MEANT for this to happen. When I preordered Dragon Age 2, I preordered it expecting it to be similar to Dragon Age Origins, and while I did not think it would be the same game, I did expect it to be closer to Dragon Age: Origins, than not.

As for what I would name it? That is tough to say, but reading through the forums, I am fond of "Champion of Kirkwall" and "Exodus." Though putting "Exodus" like that would remind me of Ultima. But hey, that's fine by me.

2 put it simple if I may

Devil May Cry = Hack and slash
Devil May Cry 2 = Hack and Slash
Devil May Cry 3 = Hack and Slash (DUH!)
and so on

Dragon Age : Origins : RPG
Dragon Age : Awakening : RPG

Dragon Age 2 : Huh? what is this ? ....

Will that do ?

[Stanley Woo]

Not really. I did ask that folks take this a little bit seriously and to try and keep the thinly-veiled insults out of the discussion.

[Youknow]

Edhriano wrote...

Youknow wrote...

I don't think the name should be changed as of now, but if it had a different name beforehand, it would have been better for it probably.

I mean, think about it this way: when you see "2," I think it usually gives the audience expectations that the game will be more or less similar to the other game. Whether it be because it continues from the last installment, like Xenosaga, or because the games are similar in how they play, ala Dragon Quest. While there are exceptions, such as Final Fantasy (which is another monster in itself that might be having some problems because they keep everything named Final Fantasy so often), but those are few and far in-between. It's the naming that I believe are the  reasons that some people rage at say... Zelda II, despite the fact that it's clearly not that terrible, but then will turn around and give something like say Shining Tears (a deviation from the Shining Force games) -- a game with far less polish -- an nod for being okay. Simply because of the way its named (not that people LIKE it more overall mind you).

In this case, Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Origins do not share enough similarities from a gameplay or story perspective to just put "Dragon Age 2" on there and call it a day. The plot is different, the theme is no where near Origins, the journey is far more personal, and most importantly, the characters aren't doing anything that is particularly affiliated with the old cast of characters. Sure the new characters have some connections with the older characters, and the older characters DO make appearances, but they are little more than cameos for the most part. It's not like say, Suikoden where it is clearly established that there is a specific timeline for the series, and anything that's out there-- like Suikoden Tactics or Suikoden Tierkreis -- are given different names, because they are loosely affiliated with the series in comparison to the other ones. Putting a "2" does both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 itself a disservice in my opinion simply because the "2" is highly deceptive for what it's going to be about. What's worse, is that I'm fairly certain that you guys never MEANT for this to happen. When I preordered Dragon Age 2, I preordered it expecting it to be similar to Dragon Age Origins, and while I did not think it would be the same game, I did expect it to be closer to Dragon Age: Origins, than not.

As for what I would name it? That is tough to say, but reading through the forums, I am fond of "Champion of Kirkwall" and "Exodus." Though putting "Exodus" like that would remind me of Ultima. But hey, that's fine by me.

2 put it simple if I may

Devil May Cry = Hack and slash
Devil May Cry 2 = Hack and Slash
Devil May Cry 3 = Hack and Slash (DUH!)
and so on

Dragon Age : Origins : RPG
Dragon Age : Awakening : RPG

Dragon Age 2 : Huh? what is this ? ....

Will that do ?

That'll work in a simpler term I suppose. I talk too much.

And Mr. Stanley Woo, I meant no offense if I did offend.

Modifié par Youknow, 12 mai 2011 - 05:48 .

[Edhriano]

Ermm.. FYI I never meant it as an insult,
If I was trying to be sarcastic I would have put it like this :

Dragon Age 2 : Awesome Button

still ... maybe I should have put it like this :

Dragon Age 2 : err ... Action RPG ?

[Elhanan]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Not really. I did ask that folks take this a little bit seriously and to try and keep the thinly-veiled insults out of the discussion.

Sorry. But I did work hard on DA: The Wrath of Qun.

Of the ones mentioned, Champion of Kirkwall is my top pick.

[Stanley Woo]

Elhanan wrote...
Sorry. But I did work hard on DA: The Wrath of Qun.

Elhanan, you are, as always, fired.

[Travie]

I really REALLY want this to happen.

After finishing DA:O I sat back in my chair and smiled to myself, because I thought I had found another series (like Baldur's Gate) that I would end up playing again every couple of years because its JUST THAT GOOD. The kind of series I can't wait to introduce someone who hasn't played it to, and live it again through their eyes.

I know there is a basic human compulsion to defend something you have created, but seeing Bioware recommit to the level of excellence of DA:O in the future titles would completely restore my faith in this company.