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[RaenImrahl]

Methinks the seriousness of this thread wanes. Anyone going to get this back on track? Or shall we lower the curtain?

[neppakyo]

RaenImrahl wrote...

Methinks the seriousness of this thread wanes. Anyone going to get this back on track? Or shall we lower the curtain?

Dragon Age: Life of Brian?
Dragon Age: And the Holy Grail?

I kid! I kid!

Said it before, I liked Exodus. Chronicles of Kirkwall, or Rise to Power for other choices.

I'd be really curious to know the reasons behind just slapping a "2" on.

[RaenImrahl]

neppakyo wrote...

Dragon Age: Life of Brian?
Dragon Age: And the Holy Grail?

...

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 13 mai 2011 - 04:50 .

[dreadpiratesnugglecakes]

Hmm..did I miss any Qunari titles? What about:

Dragon Age: Attack of the Battle Cattle

[Esbatty]

Dragon Effect: At The Speed of Blight!

Warden-Commander Shepard versus the Arch-Reaper! C'mon! Thats a license to print money.

[lobi]

Rise to Power (let PR do all the DA linking)
also
(Dragonage- Plan9 from Thedas)
Still think its a right click - rename thing.

Modifié par lobi, 13 mai 2011 - 05:10 .

[erynnar]

Raen was this supposed to be serious? Or a way to let off steam? Cuz changing the name would not really do anything, especially now. Right now I do favor Rise to Power, Exodus, or Kirkwall Chronicles. I can't think of any others that would be better. Really if they were to rename it...those three.

Which do you prefer Raen? Or do you have a better new one?

[aphelion002]

Dragon Age - Cash In

[DAO MAdhatter]

I say. Leave the name the way it is, give DA 2 a break & trust that biowere will fix what was wrong & make DA 3 BETTER than DAO.

Anyways... Im sick of people saying DAO is a masterpice. Look... Your Nestalgia is clowding your mind. Go back & play it. See the rediculousely outdated grahics, the routinely clieched story, & the cluncky outdated combat & then try saying that again, I doupt you would be able to keep a straight face.

Its a good game thats had me hooked for over 6 weeks! But its no masterpice, plain & simple.

[erynnar]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

I say. Leave the name the way it is, give DA 2 a break & trust that biowere will fix what was wrong & make DA 3 BETTER than DAO.

Anyways... Im sick of people saying DAO is a masterpice. Look... Your Nestalgia is clowding your mind. Go back & play it. See the rediculousely outdated grahics, the routinely clieched story, & the cluncky outdated combat & then try saying that again, I doupt you would be able to keep a straight face.

Its a good game thats had me hooked for over 6 weeks! But its no masterpice, plain & simple.

Actually I just played it, and I can say it....watch...I will say it slowly and sound it out for you....MAAAS--TER--PEEE--SSS.   Now, did it have it's problems? Yep. But over all I could over look them because of our new word for the day, kids.  You can you say 'masterpiece?' I knew that you could.  

Now, aside from DAO haveing problems (which funnily enough, we thought would be addressed, tweaked, etc and not a complete 180--Laidlaw's admission, fyi) it was still just well polished, detailed, and better all the way around. But then again, it had a lot more time to be done.

DA2 has the feeling of being rushed. It has bugs which some are not able to play the game for. It has that feel of tring to serve too many masters (anime/FPS/CoD/ Shooter). There are epic bits, and the story idea (s) could have been epic, they just didn't quite make it. 

That being said, are there good parts about DA2 too? You betcha! Should you enjoy the game if you have been so far? OH hell yeah! You just keep on keepin' on. More power to you, it delights me that you do (really, not sarcasm).

For those of us who didn't? Well we need a little tongue an cheek. The true haters seem to have gone to rest (trolls have returned to their bridges, only occasionally wandering away from them). If you would actually read what is written here, most of us are just agreeing to disagree on whether DA2's problems caused a lack of enjoyment or didn't. And we are having fun with each other.

I understand if it's not your cuppa. I like hanging out with this lot of unruly rowdies myself. But like DA2 like or not, that's to each their own.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Rofl. "Go back and play it".

Some of us never stopped.



I'm okay with you defending Dragon Age 2. You like the game, that's kewl. I wouldn't say it's a bad game, just one that I don't like for various reasons.

But I'm sorry, only an 8 year old would consider a game from 2 years ago worthy of nostalgia.



Please don't bring up the nostalgia issue. It makes me sad face whenever people go "lololol ur jst nostalgia for a game that came out 18-20 months ago... i mean its sooooooo old!!"

Then again, of my top 3 favourite cRPGs, the "newest" one came out in 2004....

So maybe I'm just old.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 13 mai 2011 - 05:34 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Filament wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

But I'm sorry, only an 8 year old would consider a game from 2 years ago worthy of nostalgia.

That doesn't make any sense.

I'm very hit and miss when it comes to making sense.

Basically, most people, especially longtime RPG fans are not going to feel nostalgia for a game like Origins because it's so recent. Only people who are very young or very new to RPGs are going to feel any sort of nostalgia.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 13 mai 2011 - 05:47 .

[DAO MAdhatter]

mrcrusty wrote...

Please don't bring up the nostalgia issue. It makes me sad face whenever people go "lololol ur jst nostalgia for a game that came out 18-20 months ago... i mean its sooooooo old!!"

Oh... But i will.

The Origins trolls are treating it exactly the way the Fable TLC trolls treated it. They ignore every obviouse flaw about it just to spit a game that is no longer exactly like it. It peeves me off casue it keeping a lot of people from enjoying a game(DA 2) that reully is good, despite its flaws.

One more thing. Someone mentione DA 2 having bugs. DAO has TONS of bugs. Hell, in my last playthorugh I couldnt complete stens companion quest because the game wouldnt regester that I have talked to the quest lead. Iv had to wait several seconds for the game to register that I had killed a quest monster.

DA II may have bugs. But Iv had way more problems with DAO than I ever had with DA II!

So I will state is again. DAO is NOT A MASTERPIECE! Its a great game that deseres several playthroughs, just like how COD: Black Ops is great game that deserves to be played at least till the first prestigue rank, but that doesnt mean it deserves to be called art among games.

Anyways... Back On topic.

Dragon Age: Exodes has to be one fo the coolest names EVER! It sucks that it didnt make the cut.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Sigh...

If only you had said that you liked DA 2 but admitted that nostalgia isn't a factor in people liking DAO... we would've been cool.

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

The Origins trolls are treating it exactly the way the Fable TLC trolls treated it. They ignore every obviouse flaw about it just to spit a game that is no longer exactly like it. It peeves me off casue it keeping a lot of people from enjoying a game(DA 2) that reully is good, despite its flaws.

Dragon Age 2 being really good despite the flaws is your opinion, not fact. Like the way I think Alpha Protocol is really good despite the flaws. That's an opinion, not a fact.

Other people (Origins fans) may dislike the game for the exact reasons you like it. Who is to say that they are wrong and you are right?

Both groups should be allowed to voice their opinions, when those opinions are challenged, they should be backed up with solid, sound arguments and examples. Not strawmen, generalisations and exaggerations.

DAO MAdhatter wrote...
One more thing. Someone mentione DA 2 having bugs. DAO has TONS of bugs. Hell, in my last playthorugh I couldnt complete stens companion quest because the game wouldnt regester that I have talked to the quest lead. Iv had to wait several seconds for the game to register that I had killed a quest monster.

DA II may have bugs. But Iv had way more problems with DAO than I ever had with DA II!

You play on the consoles? I heard DAO was pretty bad on consoles, so if you're a console player, I'd recommend playing on PC, much better there. But if you had major problems with DAO on consoles, then that's a fair point. DAO was not very console friendly. I agree.

But I don't care about bugs much. All of my favourite games have lots of bugs. I haven't criticised DA 2 much for bugs, others may have though because DAO on PCs was mostly good and DA 2 wasn't as good.

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

So I will state is again. DAO is NOT A MASTERPIECE! Its a great game that deseres several playthroughs,

Now, I would normally say that opinion is not fact and I'd even agree that DAO was not a masterpiece but....

DAO MAdhatter wrote...
just like how COD: Black Ops is great game that deserves to be played at least till the first prestigue rank, but that doesnt mean it deserves to be called art among games.

Achievement Unlocked - Courting the CoD audience

Don't get me wrong, I still play MW1 and CoD2 from time to time, but I can't resist taking the cheapshot.

DAO MAdhatter wrote...
Dragon Age: Exodes has to be one fo the coolest names EVER! It sucks that it didnt make the cut.

I like Rise to Power and Kirkwall Chronicles over Exodus, myself.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 13 mai 2011 - 06:42 .

[DAO MAdhatter]

[quote]mrcrusty wrote...

Sigh...

If only you had said that you liked DA 2 but admitted that nostalgia isn't a factor in people liking DAO... we would've been cool.



[quote]DAO MAdhatter wrote...

The Origins trolls are treating it exactly the way the Fable TLC trolls treated it. They ignore every obviouse flaw about it just to spit a game that is no longer exactly like it. It peeves me off casue it keeping a lot of people from enjoying a game(DA 2) that reully is good, despite its flaws. [/quote]

Dragon Age 2 being really good despite the flaws is your opinion, not fact. Like the way I think Alpha Protocol is really good despite the flaws. That's an opinion, not a fact.

[/quote]

But DA 2 IS good. When I say that, Im thinking of crap like sonic free riders, or mindjack, those games were horrable. Anyone who says DA II is bad has too high of standerds.

[quote]DAO MAdhatter wrote...
One more thing. Someone mentione DA 2 having bugs. DAO has TONS of bugs. Hell, in my last playthorugh I couldnt complete stens companion quest because the game wouldnt regester that I have talked to the quest lead. Iv had to wait several seconds for the game to register that I had killed a quest monster.

DA II may have bugs. But Iv had way more problems with DAO than I ever had with DA II![/quote]

You play on the consoles? I heard DAO was pretty bad on consoles, so if you're a console player, I'd recommend playing on PC, much better there.

[/quote]

I will... Just give me the thousand dollers for the gameing computer Ill need to run it.

[quote]DAO MAdhatter wrote...

So I will state is again. DAO is NOT A MASTERPIECE! Its a great game that deseres several playthroughs,[/quote]

Now, I would normally say that opinion is not fact and I'd even agree that DAO was not a masterpiece but....

[quote]DAO MAdhatter wrote...
just like how COD: Black Ops is great game that deserves to be played at least till the first prestigue rank, but that doesnt mean it deserves to be called art among games. [/quote]
Achievement Unlocked - Playing CoD for Single Player
Achievement Unlocked - Replaying CoD SP Campaign
Achievement Unlocked - Courting the CoD audience
Achievement Unlocked - CoD SP = DAO

[/quote]

What the hell are you talking about?

Obviously youve never played COD... You cant get xp from SP. I was talkng about how good CODs mulitplayer is. & COD in general is the measuring stick for all FPSs. 

Oh... & if you dont agree that COD is good, then your among the very small group that doesnt agree.

[quote]DAO MAdhatter wrote...
Dragon Age: Exodes has to be one fo the coolest names EVER! It sucks that it didnt make the cut. [/quote]

I like Rise to Power and Kirkwall Chronicles over Exodus, myself.
[/quote]

Naugh... Exodus sounds more mysterious. Like your going on an epic journey(which admittenly is quite ironic given DA 2s small play space)

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Lol, I've since edited my post. Sorry bout the CoD stuff, haven't played anything newer than MW1.

So, I'll try again since I know you probably won't read the edits.

Dragon Age 2 being really good despite the flaws is your opinion, not fact. Like the way I think Alpha Protocol is really good despite the flaws. That's an opinion, not a fact.

Other people (Origins fans) may dislike the game for the exact reasons you like it. Who is to say that they are wrong and you are right?

Both groups should be allowed to voice their opinions, when those opinions are challenged, they should be backed up with solid, sound arguments and examples. Not strawmen, generalisations and exaggerations.

I don't think that DA 2 is a bad game, myself. But I think it's a worse game than Origins.

You play on the consoles? I heard DAO was pretty bad on consoles, so if you're a console player, I'd recommend playing on PC, much better there. But if you had major problems with DAO on consoles, then that's a fair point. DAO was not very console friendly. I agree.

But I don't care about bugs much. All of my favourite games have lots of bugs. I haven't criticised DA 2 much for bugs, others may have though because DAO on PCs was mostly good and DA 2 wasn't as good.

----

While I myself am not the most constructive poster on the site, all I've seen from you is little more than "DA 2 is better than DAO, if you disagree, you're wrong".

I mean, that's kewl and all, but you can't carry that torch and think that it's a valid line to take. Obviously, those with the opposite view with little substance are also annoying.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 13 mai 2011 - 06:48 .

[neppakyo]

..a thousand dollars for a gaming pc? No need for that much, DA:O runs great on my old AMD Athlon X2 2.4ghz, 4gb ddr2 ram, and a Geforce 9600 GT. You can get that.. very very cheap now. Hell, you can get a better system than my old one for around $400.

[Elhanan]

DA: The Rise To War

[Drachasor]

I think the name of the game is find. It's just a game that's only truly good when you consider the fact EA forced Bioware to rush it. That's no reason to take the "Dragon Age" name away, imho, but it is a reason to be angry at EA and the forces and people that led to EA owning Bioware.

[fightright2]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Dragon Age: Exodes has to be one fo the coolest names EVER! It sucks that it didnt make the cut.

See? That's my point in that people like the name Exodus because it sounds cool even though it doesn't make sense since it's a take on leaving Lothering. Now that would work if the game was following Hawke's ongoing traveling adventures from leaving Lothering.

And really, the journey from Lothering was but a few minutes into the game. That's not enough reason to use 'Exodus'. We aren't spending years on the road traveling.

Instead, it's centered around Kirkwall because they ended up taking residence there. They didn't go any further 'exiting Lothering'.

People just like Exodus even though it doesn't apply to the game.

That's why I suggested 'Exegesis' since the whole time it's Varric's interpretation of what happened, even though Cassandra has a book detailing about the Champion of Kirkwall. Apparently, the book wasn't enough and she wanted clarification and further explanation to what has been written down in that book.

Which is why Exegesis, by the very definition, would fit it.

I'd rather have Dragon Age:Kirkwall Chronicles - Since that focuses on it's location and time spent there (in three acts).

But just not, no, please not Exodus. It doesn't fit. At least Dragon Age: Kirkwall Chronicles makes sense. I would rather use that instead of Exodus.

But IMHO, I say use 'Exegesis'. That makes a lot more sense compared to 'Exodus'. 

[LadyVaJedi]

How about the combo of Exegesis and Chronicles; DA: Exegesis Chronicles of Kirkwall

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

Elhanan wrote...

DA: Gurlocks Just Wanna Have Fun

.... No?

This would have yielded a better trailer than that Marilyn Manson nonsense from Origins.

[Dragoonlordz]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

Please don't bring up the nostalgia issue. It makes me sad face whenever people go "lololol ur jst nostalgia for a game that came out 18-20 months ago... i mean its sooooooo old!!"

Oh... But i will.

Then you'll only make yourself look very silly. People aren't ignoring the flaws in the prequel, they are comparing the things that it they feel it did well and trying to push those bits for the sequel(s). They are talking about the things they felt did right not asking for things they thought did wrong in it brought forward.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 13 mai 2011 - 02:15 .