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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

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Even though Tali is one of my top five favorite squaddies it's ridiculous how she and Garrus have gotten special status over all the others when they were just as disposable as the rest.

What also blows is that we get no new LIs. First we get robbed out of romances with Zaeed and Kasumi and now we're getting nothing at all in ME3? That's bull****.


A great philosopher once said "Entire Team is Jacob is better than no old faces at all."

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quod erat demonstrandum

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Zaeed for M/M exclusive romance in ME3!
Kasumi for F/F exclusive romance in ME3!

To gain access to them, you have to buy a DLC. The title of the DLC will be... Mass Effect: All Your Problems Solved.


My femshep wouldn't appreciate Zaeed being m/m. It's long overdue for a female bad boy LI in a BW game.


What? How dare you find fault with my completely serious and unironic proposal!


ZaeedXFemshep is a dead serious issue!

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I admit I like you and your posts, SWM, but I don't like this post in particular. =]

:lol:
Sorry. But it's true to some extent. Shepard doesn't know what subtlety is in any of the romances.

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As for Zaeed, he did talk about being in a relationship with some Asari before she ended up betraying him.


That was probably decades ago. He's an old man now.

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In my main playthrough, Garrus is dead... and the only one to not survive the suicide mission. I chalk it up to the rocket in the face he got earlier in the game (couldn't see well out of his right eye and consequently, because he haaaad to see what the Collectors were firing, forgot combat 101 and stuck his head right into the concentrated area of live fire... good job Garrus).

Just thought I'd say that.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Why would Tali or Garrus fans not want mordin to get special treatment? Mordin is awesome. If I had it my way all the squads would return in full trumpeting glory, that is unlikely to happen so I want my favorite squadmates to be in the next game AS full squadmates. The mordin fans will do the same, as will any other. I expect no less.

However you are just being silly now Elite Midget.


This.

I have other squadmates I like besides Tali too, like Legion, Kasumi and LotSB Liara.
Just because I happen to like one character particularly much, doesn't mean I'll turn a blind eye to the rest of them.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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As for Zaeed, he did talk about being in a relationship with some Asari before she ended up betraying him.


That was probably decades ago. He's an old man now.


You do know femshep can romance a bird lizard with a literal "boner" and a scaley frog man with lung issues right? Zaeed's age is the least of femshep's concerns.

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When Zaeed talks about Jack, he gets a bit of a glint in his eye.

Sometimes I think the reason Jack won't talk to Shepard after renegade sex is that it wasn't as good as renegade sex with Zaeed.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

In my main playthrough, Garrus is dead... and the only one to not survive the suicide mission. I chalk it up to the rocket in the face he got earlier in the game (couldn't see well out of his right eye and consequently, because he haaaad to see what the Collectors were firing, forgot combat 101 and stuck his head right into the concentrated area of live fire... good job Garrus).

Just thought I'd say that.



Hahahahahahahahhahaha!!!! nice!

I'm a fan of Garrus and I think thats funny.  I saw a demotivational poster somewhere of Tali about to take the rocket to the face and that made me laugh too.

People always say "Talimancer this, fanboy that"  but honestly, i think its just people who take the franchise above and beyond seriously.

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You do know femshep can romance a bird lizard with a literal "boner" and a scaley frog man with lung issues right? Zaeed's age is the least of femshep's concerns.


Femshep may be a disgusting pervert but Zaeed isn't.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

In my main playthrough, Garrus is dead... and the only one to not survive the suicide mission. I chalk it up to the rocket in the face he got earlier in the game (couldn't see well out of his right eye and consequently, because he haaaad to see what the Collectors were firing, forgot combat 101 and stuck his head right into the concentrated area of live fire... good job Garrus).

Just thought I'd say that.

:lol:

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

When Zaeed talks about Jack, he gets a bit of a glint in his eye.

Sometimes I think the reason Jack won't talk to Shepard after renegade sex is that it wasn't as good as renegade sex with Zaeed.


Probably.  Also, Zaeed has more tattoos than Shepard.   And his room has that cool button you can press to eject trash into space ....

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Seboist wrote...

You do know femshep can romance a bird lizard with a literal "boner" and a scaley frog man with lung issues right? Zaeed's age is the least of femshep's concerns.


Femshep may be a disgusting pervert but Zaeed isn't.


FemshepXZaeed is the best romance and you know it!

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That doesn't look anything like femshep.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

That doesn't look anything like femshep.


She can look like anything you want. :wizard:

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[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
[quote]Zulu_DFA wrote...

I can admit that at the time of posting that thread I had already dismissed previusly postulated possiblility, that there would be what I called "playeable cameos" at the time. Later the term "temporary squadmate" became more common (and much less clumsy than mine), although basically it's had the same meaning. And with the LotSB's release I returned to admitting of that as a possiblility for the ME2 expendables' treatment in ME3, and a quite probable one (and the one that's now is definitely confirmed).

And if you are determined to catch me on my word and insist that I don't have this thing you call "intellectual honesty", I'm prepared to dig my earlier post as well as the more recent ones (from the linked thread) postulating that some (a few) ME2 squadmates could be given the LotSB or Kasumi treatment in ME3.[/quote]

I'm just saying that it would make more sense if you said "I was probably wrong about the idea of returning permanent or temporary squadmates when I wrote that thread, just like I'm wrong about most of my predictions I made early on when there wasn't much data. Still: here's my new theory. Maybe this time it'll be right, it's based on the same premises as my original theory, but now it incorporates new data."

You linked to that thread when starting this one. "These are the shadows of the things that have been, that they are what they are, do not blame me." (To quote a popular Dickens paraphrase.) You asked the question "Was I right when I created that thread?" to which the answer, given the evidence we have right now, seems to be "probably not." You provided a single link. Upon clicking that link, I find sound evidence that you were probably wrong. If you want to prove that you were, in fact, right later in that thread, that is up to you.
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And I'm just saying that I was mostly right. If you're fixated on Tali and Garrus, just like the majority of the flamers here are, then you naturally can't see that th firs line of my thread is the link to a poll about squad quantity/interactivty.

Then it goes with the prediction (based off the poll's overwhelming results) which way Bioware would choose, and which squadmates would be put on the ME3 default squad, with others (the ME2 expendables) being added to the game as DLCs and cameos.

Now isn't that what Casey Hudson has explicitly confirmed with the quote I've put in the OP of this thread? As opposed to vague, evasive and ambigous PR talk such as "playeable to some extent" (Garrus) and "will be back" (Tali).


[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I change my theories based on evidence all the time, and openly admit it. I've admitted that, given the high probability of frequent temporary squadmates and the focus on a smaller team, my original list of "3-7 squadmates likely to return permanently" is may not be valid beyond the first few entries. I'm not going to be so bold as to say "when I said those seven were likely to return, I meant some of them would be permanent and some temporary" because I feel that would be disingenuous.
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Good for you.


[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I guess I'm saying that I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions.
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That almost sounds like I've insulted you on a personal level.  Which happened I fail to guess how.


[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
[quote]Zulu_DFA wrote...
[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

You can't just define your terms vaguely and come back eight months later to redefine them and prove you were "right." That's not how the internet works.[/quote]
And I can't write a treatise on every single topic I choose to speculate about. Not so much that I'm unable to, but I prefer to get spam pics than TL;DR-s in response. The pics are usually funny.

And I know what I meant. That's good enough for me to make clarifications any time I see people don't get it.
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So you're more interested in inciting than communicating? I guess that makes sense.
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The people who post spam pic are interested in inciting. I guess that's the only form of communication they can effetively participate in.

If you haven't nociced, you and I have been having a quite sensible if somewhat sour communication, even without either of us writing a wall of text. (Even with this post, if you don't count the quotes.)


[quote]CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

And if knowing what you meant is all it takes, then I will say this:

"ME2 characters will return in ME3."

There. Now no matter what happens, I am completely, totally, and inarguably right. I've perfectly predicted every character's exact role and appearance in ME2, down to the exact number of lines of text they have and how many outfits they can wear. If you don't get it, that's fine. I'll clarify what I mean. Meet me back here in...  say... May of 2012.
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Well, I can agree with that, but that statement has no value and warrants only a "Thank you Captain Obvious" response.

As opposed to the "people want a smaller more interective squad, so bye-bye expendables" statement.

And I understand the desire to slap me with "See Garrus, Zulu?" stuff, but it in no way diminishes  the relative value of HTTP 404's poll, and my thread based around it (which is admitteldy very small in the big picture - I don't mean to sound megalomanical).




Oh, and for the record, Liara still is out of place on that "Variables" banner people are sporting, because stil nobody has ever asserted that she had any problems with the "Variables".

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 mai 2011 - 07:02 .


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Seboist wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

That doesn't look anything like femshep.


She can look like anything you want. :wizard:


Not with the limited hairstyles you get. Even if you mod in that nice hair you can't get by default, its not enough. 

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See, she normally has a ponytail, and that's what she looks like with her hair down.

Also, Nigel Fishnchips has proven that people will go after just about anyone with a British accent, so I can understand Seboist's predilections.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Seboist wrote...

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That doesn't look anything like femshep.


She can look like anything you want. :wizard:


Not with the limited hairstyles you get. Even if you mod in that nice hair you can't get by default, its not enough. 


I like to imagine my femshep's hair actually grows and that she can cut and comb it.

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Yup..... here i was thinking zulu left, but he came back and wrote a book about how right he is.

.... or he tried to at any rate....

Modifié par noisecode, 12 mai 2011 - 07:07 .


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Femsheps face always looks the same.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Femsheps face always looks the same.

True, but not totally. The thing is the character creator is limited, so there are bound to be noticeable similarities between any two custom Shepard's, but I have seen a few that look almost unique. It's a matter of whether you have the patience to create something that stands out with the fairly limited character creator.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Femsheps face always looks the same.


Wait wait wait... Saphra has Prosopagnosia

This explains SO MUCH.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Femsheps face always looks the same.


My FemShep looks differentImage IPB

Gave her a bit of this look:  http://0.tqn.com/d/w...um_36947632.jpg

Janice Shepard:  http://social.biowar...6530/100685.jpg

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#249
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Seboist wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Seboist wrote...

As for Zaeed, he did talk about being in a relationship with some Asari before she ended up betraying him.


That was probably decades ago. He's an old man now.


You do know femshep can romance a bird lizard with a literal "boner" and a scaley frog man with lung issues right? Zaeed's age is the least of femshep's concerns.


Zaeed is only 40 years old, (M/F)Shepard is in the mid-30s.   Age wouldn't be an issue for the two of them. 

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Seboist wrote...

And Wrex wasn't popular?


Bioware made king of Krogans and he might be temporally squadmate.

Oh and Zaeed and Kasumi would have been great romances fyi.


How the hell Zaeed would be great romance?

And Kasumi is still mourning her boyfriend.