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Zulu_DFA for a moderator Post!

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nelly21 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lol, actually I was expecting this to instantly become a flame bate. Good to see the rage is in stock and abundant as always on this mighty fine network.

Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


Grow up? As in create a thread to stroke your e-peen based on your personal assumption?

I think the level of maturity in this thread is spot on for the subjectImage IPB

Is it? reasonable debate should be met with pic spam and flaming, both of which go against the rules of the site?

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Mesina2 wrote...
Also, playable cameos?
WTF?!


Someone screwed up the definiton.:P

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Also, playable cameos?
WTF?!


Someone screwed up the definiton.:P

I think they meant temporary squadmate, like Liara in LotSB

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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


*Removes his clown costume*

Sure. I just don't understand your post at all. Playable cameos? You mean temporary squadmates? Tali and Garrus have already been confirmed as full time squadmates.

Modifié par Chewin3, 11 mai 2011 - 07:37 .


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thurmanator692 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lol, actually I was expecting this to instantly become a flame bate. Good to see the rage is in stock and abundant as always on this mighty fine network.

Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


Grow up? As in create a thread to stroke your e-peen based on your personal assumption?

I think the level of maturity in this thread is spot on for the subjectImage IPB

Is it? reasonable debate should be met with pic spam and flaming, both of which go against the rules of the site?


Someone posting a thread that they expect 'to instantly become a flame bait' is,  by definition, trolling.

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Tali and Garrus have been confirmed as squaddies.

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Moiaussi wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lol, actually I was expecting this to instantly become a flame bate. Good to see the rage is in stock and abundant as always on this mighty fine network.

Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


Grow up? As in create a thread to stroke your e-peen based on your personal assumption?

I think the level of maturity in this thread is spot on for the subjectImage IPB

Is it? reasonable debate should be met with pic spam and flaming, both of which go against the rules of the site?


Someone posting a thread that they expect 'to instantly become a flame bait' is,  by definition, trolling.

that wasn't his intention, it was a reaction he assumed would follow. Were he trolling, he wouldn't say he expected it 'to instantly become flame bait'

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darknoon5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

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James Vega was also confirmed to be James Sanders.

And a while back Ashley had been confirmed to be FemShep.

But James Vega's character was a WIP, so much so there are no images yet. Garrus and Tali are established characters. And him being James Sanders was true at the time.

And Ashley wasn't "confirmed" as femshep, that was a crappy article that lacked background knowledge, but it doesn't mean that the stuff they have that says "Casey Hudson says..." is invalid.

Finally, I think Kaidan and Liara are jsut the current poster characters, which is fair as Ashley and Garrus were the ME1 poster characters. You're looking too deep into this.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Game Informer, that seems to have had the most exclusive access to BioWare so far described Garrus as playeable "to some extent". And AFAIK, the information about Tali comes from a single "crappy article".

In the same list that included Ashley/Kaidan, Liara and James Sanders/Vega, who you aren't saying are cameos. You also ignored my part about the re-design. Ashley and Kaidan only cameo'd in ME2, and they weren't re-designed. Wrex and Liara both just had generic armour/clothing dumped on them (till LoTSB, anyway) and only Tali and Garrus had real redesigns. So why re-design a character just for a cameo?

Well, Chud said something which definetly sugests Tali will be a squadmate.

Game Informer: "Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus all playeable to some extent"

That means they all be available for any number of missions between 1 and All. Then this Casey Hudson's quote comes in, on top of all the previous reasoning as to why the VS and Liara can and all others cannot be full-time companions. Note how Casey brings up the Interactivity thing (largely), around which my thread was based. As opposed to the Variables, actually. Like I said, the Variables are factoring in this, but the Interactivity is the main reason. Factoring Garrus into those "deeper relationships and more interesting interplay" of the ME3 squad is inexpedient.

As to the character "redesign", I assume that doesn't say much, since it's to be expected, naturally. Liara underwent a redesign for her playeble cameo in the LotSB DLC. Hell, even Conrad Verner did! And I think that while in ME2 Garrus may have been too busy with the calibrations to fix or change his combat suit, wearing it in ME3 would raise some eyebrows.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

this thread wrote...

SQUADMATES:

"Twelve was a big number in Mass Effect 2 - almost too big", Hudson concedes. "We're focused on a smaller squad with deeper relationships and more interesting interplay in Mass Effect 3' he explains.  "We're not going to have twelve again but we are going to do more with the characters on  your squad including Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. And we're bringing everyone back - every main character is in Mass Effect 3 somewhere"


So was I right again?

Note how Casey Hudson left out Garrus and Tali. They are playable.... cameos. Maybe quite extesive cameos, but possibly not even overlapping within the story.

Personally, I hope for Legion to be able to occupy that hypothetical "cameo slot" on the squad for a couple of missions.

Hahahh.


Oh boy, this thread makes me happy.

Confirmed Permanent Squadmates: Garrus, Liara, VS, Tali.
Semi-Confirmed Cameos: Zaeed, Thane.
Hinted for Permanent Squadmates: Jack
Hinted for Temporary Squadmates: Wrex.

Were are your variables now, Zulu?

Modifié par Phaedon, 11 mai 2011 - 07:45 .


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It can also mean that the game might choose companions for you for certain events a la loyalty missions.

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Other returning characters.

Seen in-game: Legion, Wrex, Mordin, Anderson, TIM.
Confirmed by VAs: Hackett, Anderson, EDI, Joker.

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@Zulu Idk, ashley did strut around in pink and white armor for two games

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Phaedon wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

this thread wrote...

SQUADMATES:

"Twelve was a big number in Mass Effect 2 - almost too big", Hudson concedes. "We're focused on a smaller squad with deeper relationships and more interesting interplay in Mass Effect 3' he explains.  "We're not going to have twelve again but we are going to do more with the characters on  your squad including Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. And we're bringing everyone back - every main character is in Mass Effect 3 somewhere"


So was I right again?

Note how Casey Hudson left out Garrus and Tali. They are playable.... cameos. Maybe quite extesive cameos, but possibly not even overlapping within the story.

Personally, I hope for Legion to be able to occupy that hypothetical "cameo slot" on the squad for a couple of missions.

Hahahh.


Oh boy, this thread makes me happy.

Confirmed Permanent Squadmates: Garrus, Liara, VS, Tali.
Semi-Confirmed Cameos: Zaeed, Thane.
Hinted for Permanent Squadmates: Jack
Hinted for Temporary Squadmates: Wrex.

Were are your variables now, Zulu?

Source?

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darknoon5 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Whyp_2 wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

hurr durr, Zulu. hurr durr


Basically explains this whole thread


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Hmm personal attacks, how clever.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

James Vega was also confirmed to be James Sanders.

And a while back Ashley had been confirmed to be FemShep.

But James Vega's character was a WIP, so much so there are no images yet. Garrus and Tali are established characters. And him being James Sanders was true at the time.

And Ashley wasn't "confirmed" as femshep, that was a crappy article that lacked background knowledge, but it doesn't mean that the stuff they have that says "Casey Hudson says..." is invalid.

Finally, I think Kaidan and Liara are jsut the current poster characters, which is fair as Ashley and Garrus were the ME1 poster characters. You're looking too deep into this.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Game Informer, that seems to have had the most exclusive access to BioWare so far described Garrus as playeable "to some extent". And AFAIK, the information about Tali comes from a single "crappy article".

In the same list that included Ashley/Kaidan, Liara and James Sanders/Vega, who you aren't saying are cameos. You also ignored my part about the re-design. Ashley and Kaidan only cameo'd in ME2, and they weren't re-designed. Wrex and Liara both just had generic armour/clothing dumped on them (till LoTSB, anyway) and only Tali and Garrus had real redesigns. So why re-design a character just for a cameo?

Well, Chud said something which definetly sugests Tali will be a squadmate.

Game Informer: "Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus all playeable to some extent"


The words "some extent" could also mean that they simply aren't confirming them at that point. You've just chosen to interpret it a different way, because that means that you're right.

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@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
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@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.


That, however seems pretty unequivocal, unless Bioware have seriously screwed up their marketing.

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thurmanator692 wrote...
Source?

I think that there is a thread around here with some sources and confirmed stuff.

I wouldn't know.

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thurmanator692 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

this thread wrote...

SQUADMATES:

"Twelve was a big number in Mass Effect 2 - almost too big", Hudson concedes. "We're focused on a smaller squad with deeper relationships and more interesting interplay in Mass Effect 3' he explains.  "We're not going to have twelve again but we are going to do more with the characters on  your squad including Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. And we're bringing everyone back - every main character is in Mass Effect 3 somewhere"


So was I right again?

Note how Casey Hudson left out Garrus and Tali. They are playable.... cameos. Maybe quite extesive cameos, but possibly not even overlapping within the story.

Personally, I hope for Legion to be able to occupy that hypothetical "cameo slot" on the squad for a couple of missions.

Hahahh.


Oh boy, this thread makes me happy.

Confirmed Permanent Squadmates: Garrus, Liara, VS, Tali.
Semi-Confirmed Cameos: Zaeed, Thane.
Hinted for Permanent Squadmates: Jack
Hinted for Temporary Squadmates: Wrex.

Were are your variables now, Zulu?

Source?


Where have you been last month and the half?
Check here.

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:ph34r:'d

Modifié par Jzadek72, 11 mai 2011 - 07:53 .


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There is also a distinct lack of PC Gamer in this thread.

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Moiaussi wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lol, actually I was expecting this to instantly become a flame bate. Good to see the rage is in stock and abundant as always on this mighty fine network.

Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


Grow up? As in create a thread to stroke your e-peen based on your personal assumption?

I think the level of maturity in this thread is spot on for the subjectImage IPB

Is it? reasonable debate should be met with pic spam and flaming, both of which go against the rules of the site?

Someone posting a thread that they expect 'to instantly become a flame bait' is,  by definition, trolling.

Maybe, but I refuse to take the blame for it in a situation when people get trolled everytime somebody puts a bit of reason in a post.

And, back on topic: can anywone show me to a dev confirmation of Tali and Garrus being full-time (or to two independent non-dev sources)?

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Lol, actually I was expecting this to instantly become a flame bate. Good to see the rage is in stock and abundant as always on this mighty fine network.

Now, can we maybe please suddenly all grow up and give a chance to a discussion here?


Grow up? As in create a thread to stroke your e-peen based on your personal assumption?

I think the level of maturity in this thread is spot on for the subjectImage IPB

Is it? reasonable debate should be met with pic spam and flaming, both of which go against the rules of the site?

Someone posting a thread that they expect 'to instantly become a flame bait' is,  by definition, trolling.

Maybe, but I refuse to take the blame for it in a situation when people get trolled everytime somebody puts a bit of reason in a post.

This seems unreasonable because most of these people have been here to see the flood of info, and just assumed you have too. If you haven't, then fair enough, but it just comes off like a desperate man unwilling to accept that he's wrong.

And, back on topic: can anywone show me to a dev confirmation of Tali
and Garrus being full-time (or to two independent non-dev
sources)?


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@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
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@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.


Modifié par Jzadek72, 11 mai 2011 - 07:56 .


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Can you show any confirmation of them not being full time? And what is your definition of 'full time?' You don't start with either on board on the SR2.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

James Vega was also confirmed to be James Sanders.

And a while back Ashley had been confirmed to be FemShep.

But James Vega's character was a WIP, so much so there are no images yet. Garrus and Tali are established characters. And him being James Sanders was true at the time.

And Ashley wasn't "confirmed" as femshep, that was a crappy article that lacked background knowledge, but it doesn't mean that the stuff they have that says "Casey Hudson says..." is invalid.

Finally, I think Kaidan and Liara are jsut the current poster characters, which is fair as Ashley and Garrus were the ME1 poster characters. You're looking too deep into this.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Game Informer, that seems to have had the most exclusive access to BioWare so far described Garrus as playeable "to some extent". And AFAIK, the information about Tali comes from a single "crappy article".


Actually Zulu Tali was also confirmed by Casey Hudson to be a squadmate on his twitter.

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Someone is in need of better sources...