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[jeweledleah]

and speaking of aforementioned twitter - here's the link

http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson

also, and I hope someone helps me out here, there was a developer quote stating that if you killed off all your squadmates but 2 (Shepard won't survive suicide mission unless 2 squadmates are present)  you are basicaly going to have much harder time in ME3.  moreover - one of the developers mentioned something about having to chose which squadmate you get to recruit for which available spot - which would in term affect how the mission progresses.

you need 2 squadmates to be able to play the game.  no matter how you finished your ME2 run, you will have a minimum of 3 at the start of ME3 - Liara, VS and James with ever changing last name.  no need for replacement squadmates.  no need to expend needless resources just to accomodate a very small minority of people who deliberately killed off their ME2 squad (its eaiser to come out without casualties then with them)

Modifié par jeweledleah, 11 mai 2011 - 08:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

Also. http://twitter.com/#...097396709658625

[Phaedon]

thurmanator692 wrote...

To be clear, i'm really uncertain of review articles that aren't directly linked to dev interviews and the such. Game magazines have been known to fill in the blanks

And?

Casey Hudson has said, one, no wait...two, oh okay, three times that all ME2 squadmates will return. He also says that some will be permanent, others temporary, and the first mention of cameos, was X360 World.


Zulu's points:
The only and enough reason NO ME2 SQUAD will be recruitable by default in ME3. Proved Wrong.[/b]
Variables are too complex. Proved wrong.[/i]
ME2 squadmates will not be permanent. Proved wrong.[i][b]

Modifié par Phaedon, 11 mai 2011 - 08:13 .

[KainrycKarr]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

James Vega was also confirmed to be James Sanders.

And a while back Ashley had been confirmed to be FemShep.

But James Vega's character was a WIP, so much so there are no images yet. Garrus and Tali are established characters. And him being James Sanders was true at the time.

And Ashley wasn't "confirmed" as femshep, that was a crappy article that lacked background knowledge, but it doesn't mean that the stuff they have that says "Casey Hudson says..." is invalid.

Finally, I think Kaidan and Liara are jsut the current poster characters, which is fair as Ashley and Garrus were the ME1 poster characters. You're looking too deep into this.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Game Informer, that seems to have had the most exclusive access to BioWare so far described Garrus as playeable "to some extent". And AFAIK, the information about Tali comes from a single "crappy article".

Hi.

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

[Zulu_DFA]

Jzadek72 wrote...

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

OK. That counts.

Still,

Casey Hudson: We're having a squad smaller than 12, but every major character will be back.

Casye Hudson: Tali will be back.

That doesn't necessarily mean that Tali wil be back exactly the same way Jacob will be back. But Casey Hudson wouldn't need to specify, that "you'll see a continuation of her story arc", if that story arc was sticking with Shepard and his "deeper relationships" squad, would he?

Also, I remember Casey Hudson honestly mixing up Tali with Liara, so you never now...

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 11 mai 2011 - 08:19 .

[Sith_exar_kun]

Infact, we have proof they are full squadmates, have you got proof that they aren't?

[Lapis Lazuli]

It took 13 to take out the collectors, but you won't need that many to take out the eternal unthinkable ruthless incomprehensible extragalactic reapers.

[Phaedon]

Zulu, a pro damage control tip mate. Stop linking to a thread that says that no ME2 squadmates will be back. At least change the title to something less incriminating.

Modifié par Phaedon, 11 mai 2011 - 08:17 .

[KainrycKarr]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

OK. That counts.

Still,

Casey Hudson: We're having a squad smaller than 12, but every major character will be back.

Casye Hudson: Tali will be back.

That doesn't necessarily means that Tali will to be back exactly the same way Jacob will to be back. But Casey Hudson wouldn't need to specify, that "you'll see a continuation of her story arc", if that story arc was sticking with Shepard and his "deeper relationships" squad, would he?

Also, I remember Casey Hudson honestly mixing up Tali with Liara, so you never now...

Come on now. Just let it go Zulu. Let it go.

[Phaedon]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Sith_exar_kun wrote...

Infact, we have proof they are full squadmates, have you got proof that they aren't?

that kinda defeats the purpose of debating, doesn't it?

Casey Hudson also defeats the purpose of debating, what's your point?

[Jzadek72]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

Alexthehunted
@
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

OK. That counts.

Still,

Casey Hudson: We're having a squad smaller than 12, but every major character will be back.

Casye Hudson: Tali will be back.

That doesn't necessarily means that Tali will to be back exactly the same way Jacob will to be back.

No, but we didn't expect EVERYBODY back. But this for one proves that someone's capacity for dying doesn't preclude them being in the game. Thus, "Ah, yes, variables".

Sorry, that was cheap gloating. Also, if you look in Phaedon's thread, three or more magazines confirm Garrus.

[darknoon5]

Bad King wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Whyp_2 wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

hurr durr, Zulu. hurr durr

Basically explains this whole thread

Hmm personal attacks, how clever.

Nope, just jesting.

[Alpha-Centuri]

Lapis Lazuli wrote...

It took 13 to take out the
collectors, but you won't need that many to take out the eternal
unthinkable ruthless incomprehensible extragalactic reapers.

Nope, you are going to need a united galaxy.

They might go SW:TOR and have Shepard send off companions for other diplomatic or espionage missions while you are doing the usual. I hope!

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 11 mai 2011 - 08:22 .

[KainrycKarr]

Let's compromise.

We know SOME are back as full-time squaddies (Tali, Garrus, VS, Liara)
But we also know that not ALL will be back(CHudson on "12 was too many")

Zulu was partially right, and partially wrong.

[Phaedon]

1. Claim that NO ME2 squaddies will be back.
2. Say that "complex variables" are the reason.
3. "Complex variables" dismissed
4. Still maintain that variables are too complex.
5. Being dismissed twice!
6. Argue that Bioware will do a horrible job with variables "just like Tali's geth data mission from ME1"
7. VS, Liara, Garrus and multiple others mentioned in GI article, some of them as squadmates.
8. Claim that that doesn't necessarily make them permanent.
9. CH: "All ME2 squaddies will be back, some permanent, some temporary etc"
10.More squadmates are confirmed as permanent.
11. Make thread, linking to step 1.

Modifié par Phaedon, 11 mai 2011 - 08:26 .

[Phaedon]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Let's compromise.

We know SOME are back as full-time squaddies (Tali, Garrus, VS, Liara)
But we also know that not ALL will be back(CHudson on "12 was too many")

Zulu was partially right, and partially wrong.

No, just look where his post is linking.

http://social.biowar...5/index/2267863

Zulu was wrong from the start, whereas we always claimed that ME2 squadmates would be back, some of which permanently. I actually didn't expect the concept of temporary squadmates, which makes this even more glorious.

[Zulu_DFA]

Phaedon wrote...

Zulu, a pro damage control tip mate. Stop linking to a thread that says that no ME2 squadmates will be back. At least change the title to something less incriminating.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]

I can't change the title because Pacifien locked the thread on my request and has retired as a mod recently.

And although I admit the title of that thread has become somewhat off, the main idea of that thread is spot on:

The ME3 squad will be smaller, more interactive, and that means those affected by the Variables will have their roles reduced, in comparison to the unaffected henchmen.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 11 mai 2011 - 08:29 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Let's compromise.

We know SOME are back as full-time squaddies (Tali, Garrus, VS, Liara)
But we also know that not ALL will be back(CHudson on "12 was too many")

Zulu was partially right, and partially wrong.

Here's the problem: months ago, Zulu was arguing vehemently that nobody would come back. He keeps moving his goalposts, and people give him credit for being partially right.

The thing is, I haven't met a single person who thought that all the ME2 squad were going to be full squadmates in ME2. I used to say I thought it'd be about 2-7, later narrowed down to 3-6.

So if one person is arguing "3-6 squamates will return" and someone else is arguing "no squadmates return" and then 4 squadmates return, the person arguing for 0 wasn't "partially right," relatively speaking.

[KainrycKarr]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Zulu, a pro damage control tip mate. Stop linking to a thread that says that no ME2 squadmates will be back. At least change the title to something less incriminating.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]

I can't change the title because Pacifien locked the thread on my request and has retired as a mod recently.

And although I admit the title of that thread has become somewhat off, the main idea of that thread is spot on:

The ME3 squad will be smaller, more interactive, and that means some of those affected by the Variables will have their roles reduced, in comparison to the unaffected henchmen.

Fixed, for accuracy.

[KainrycKarr]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Let's compromise.

We know SOME are back as full-time squaddies (Tali, Garrus, VS, Liara)
But we also know that not ALL will be back(CHudson on "12 was too many")

Zulu was partially right, and partially wrong.

Here's the problem: months ago, Zulu was arguing vehemently that nobody would come back. He keeps moving his goalposts, and people give him credit for being partially right.

The thing is, I haven't met a single person who thought that all the ME2 squad were going to be full squadmates in ME2. I used to say I thought it'd be about 2-7, later narrowed down to 3-6.

So if one person is arguing "3-6 squamates will return" and someone else is arguing "no squadmates return" and then 4 squadmates return, the person arguing for 0 wasn't "partially right," relatively speaking.

Hey, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I said months ago that I think the LI's will return as fulltime, and the non-li's will be temp or cameos. I still believe that.

I don't care one way or the other. I'm just trying to get him to shut up.

Generally speaking, the "I have to be right 100% of the time" types will usually quiet down if you'll admit to them being at least somewhat right.