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[Ryzaki]

Sphynx118 wrote...
You can play it however you want. As i said it still doesnt change what a game is. Just as i can try to ride a bicycle without wheels down a hill. I can do it but im still retarded for doing it.

But ra forbid someone want the casual difficutly easier? 

And i just said i dont play on harder than normal difficulty? Its written right there you know. No need to ask.

Then why are you getting irritated about causal being easier? It wouldn't affect your game unless you're playing on causal. 

Anyway. Not being able to complete mass effect 2 on casual makes you handicaped. And if thats the case its totally ok for not being able to beat it. Nothing against handicaped people. But dont try to make it sound normal to not being able to play a game that a sloth without arms can beat

Sorry babe but you're wrong. I rank my doctor above some random internet mook. 

Though do keep pretending you actually know what consitutes a handicap it's amusing. 

[Blooddrunk1004]

Tripedius wrote...


This is so besides the point. I fully support a very complex and difficult game on normal and up. Even to the point were the likes of you might start to complain about how difficult it is. I also do NOT think they should dumb down the difficulty of the game for everybody because some people, like me, aren't that much into shooters. I DO however ask for a difficulty setting, below normal, that is attuned to players like me. Players that do like some combat, but don't want very difficult combat. This could be achieved in numerous ways without spoiling the game for people who want a challenge.
For instance on normal difficulty settings Korgans could charge from a distance on easy or very easy this range could be reduced. On normal you could not have health regenerate, but on e/ve health can regenerate. The damage enemies do could be reduced on lower settings, sheps health could be uped or he could do more damage. But these are changes ONLY to easy and/or very easy. I'm all for attuning the difficulty to the player and I do hate making things harder by upping damage/health instead of ai on higher difficulty but am not opposed to helping the player more on lower difficulty. Or wants are NOT incompatible. I fine with players wanting more of a challenge, but you should respect those players who don't.

As for the flaming, sorry, WOW flashbacks to leetplayers calling gaming work and not wanting to share ''the reward' with people who did less

Simple solution, play on casual.
But if casual gives you problem then you are officialy the worst gamer ever.
I honestly can't picture you playing KOTOR, Origins, Gears of War, God of War or any FPS ever made.

[Ryzaki]

KOTOR is laughably easy. It doesn't rely on twitch reflexes.

Origins relies more on skill and position than twitch refleses.

Does help with those games that it was a single button press to pause the game instead of holding down a key.

[Sphynx118]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...
You can play it however you want. As i said it still doesnt change what a game is. Just as i can try to ride a bicycle without wheels down a hill. I can do it but im still retarded for doing it.

But ra forbid someone want the casual difficutly easier? 

And i just said i dont play on harder than normal difficulty? Its written right there you know. No need to ask.

Then why are you getting irritated about causal being easier? It wouldn't affect your game unless you're playing on causal. 

Anyway. Not being able to complete mass effect 2 on casual makes you handicaped. And if thats the case its totally ok for not being able to beat it. Nothing against handicaped people. But dont try to make it sound normal to not being able to play a game that a sloth without arms can beat

Sorry babe but you're wrong. I rank my doctor above some random internet mook. 

Though do keep pretending you actually know what consitutes a handicap it's amusing. 

Oh now im interested. Did you actually take a test for stuff like that? Where in the name of the all knowing Horus do you live and why did you take such a test?

And i play casual on some games yes. Ive played the whole DA2 campaign on casual. Mostly because the combat was horrible and i wanted the story bits but still.
Ive tried casual on ME but it was just laughably easy so i kept going normal.

Thats why i dont see how people try to dumd it down further and think its normal to not being able to beat it on casual. It would be like trying to make water be more liquid.

[Someone With Mass]

http://t0.gstatic.co...0O6-AXca91B-6lG

[DRSH]

Dave666 wrote...

DRSH wrote...

I want to die once every 1.25 seconds on insanity in ME3. Bring it on!

I'm curious about something, perhaps you can help me out.

What exactly does the post you made have to do with the OP's request?

I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request.

I'm curious about something, perhaps you can fill me in.
Why are you so interrested in my post? On 2nd thought, don't answer that.

Seriouszly do': Mass Effect 2 is already pretty easy, suicide mission & insanity difficulty level included. No more holding hands for Mass Effect 3. Give us a challenge. "Don't make ME3 too hard" is... defeatist talk. Who wouldn't want to be challenged in a game? Why would I play a game for fun if it doesn't bring a good challenge? Then again I know lots of people who like their games to be easy so that they can brag about how awesome they were in the game on casual... but... but... but... i'll let someone else fill the gaps.
Point: ME3 should not be easy. It should be balanced: casual for those with weak hearts but brave spirits & insane for those with big dic...vagin.(S).ERROR...RECORD DELETED...you know what I mean.

PS: Are you With the Hip Hop Thread Police Department or sumethin'? don't answer that...

[Ryzaki]

Sphynx118 wrote...
Oh now im interested. Did you actually take a test for stuff like that? Where in the name of the all knowing Horus do you live and why did you take such a test?

Uh...yeah honey. I live in NY and it's a common test done to children and adults by their physician. You know people who actually know what the hell they're talking about.  Unlike your "information". 

And i play casual on some games yes. Ive played the whole DA2 campaign on casual. Mostly because the combat was horrible and i wanted the story bits but still.
Ive tried casual on ME but it was just laughably easy so i kept going normal.

And that's okay. I play DA2 on Hard usually. Don't do nightmare because I like having Fenris and on NM he's more likely to kill me thananything else since I play Melee charactes. 

And that's grand. You can keep playing on normal and no one will make that easier. I however didn't find casual so easy. Since the difficulty doesn't affect you move on. 

Thats why i dont see how people try to dumd it down further and think its normal to not being able to beat it on casual. It would be like trying to make water be more liquid.

*rolls eyes* So this is a "OMG HOW DARE YOU PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I DON'T WANT YOU TO PLAY!" thing? Because if so this conversation will go nowhere. You're just gonna whine and insist that everyone should play it the way you do because you found it easy then everyone should find it easy. That's not how the world works. Sorry your ability to play ME isn't some natural standard of human reflexes. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mai 2011 - 06:24 .

[Sphynx118]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...
Oh now im interested. Did you actually take a test for stuff like that? Where in the name of the all knowing Horus do you live and why did you take such a test?

Uh...yeah honey. I live in NY and it's a common test done to children and adults by their physician. You know people who actually know what the hell they're talking about.  Unlike you're "information". 

And i play casual on some games yes. Ive played the whole DA2 campaign on casual. Mostly because the combat was horrible and i wanted the story bits but still.
Ive tried casual on ME but it was just laughably easy so i kept going normal.

And that's okay. I play DA2 on Hard usually. Don't do nightmare because I like having Fenris and on NM he's more likely to kill me thananything else since I play Melee charactes. 

And that's grand. You can keep playing on normal and no one will make that easier. I however didn't find casual so easy. Since the difficulty doesn't affect you move on. 

Thats why i dont see how people try to dumd it down further and think its normal to not being able to beat it on casual. It would be like trying to make water be more liquid.

*rolls eyes* So this is a "OMG HOW DARE YOU PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I DON'T WANT YOU TO PLAY!" thing? Because if so this conversation will go nowhere. You're just ognna whine and insist that everyone should play it the way you do because you found it easy then everyone should find it easy. That's not how the world works. 

They do retard tests on adults in The US of A? I had no idea. Considering your former president and some of your "ideals" i wouldnt take your so called "physicians" seriously. The tests clearly doesnt work as intended. Just sayin.

 And as ive said 2 times now. You can play however you want but dont get all mad and stuff becuase you die 2 times in a GAME.
It would be ok to get mad if you watched a MOVIE and the screen suddenly went red and said Critical failure. But this isnt a movie. You want casual in ME to be an interactive movie and not a game. And Osiris forbid if you make it any easier it will be just that. Death is necesary. Even on casual. 

Modifié par Sphynx118, 12 mai 2011 - 06:25 .

[Ryzaki]

Sphynx118 wrote...
They do retard tests on adults in The US of A? I had no idea. Considering your former president and some of your "ideals" i wouldnt take your so called "physicians" seriously. The tests clearly doesnt work as intended. Just sayin.

 And as ive said 2 times now. You can play however you want but dont get all mad and stuff becuase you die 2 times in a GAME.
It would be ok to get mad if you watched a MOVIE and the screen suddenly went red and said Critical failure. But this isnt a movie. You want casual in ME to be an interactive movie and not a game. Death is necesary. Even on casual. 

Ah yes. You're a troll. Don't worry I won't feed you anymore. And I find it amusing you're saying anything's retarded when you don't seem to have basic knowledge of captialization. But again you're a troll. 

And now I'm gonna ignore you. Have a nice life. 

[Captain_Obvious]

DRSH wrote...

Who wouldn't want to be challenged in a game?

Me.  Two reasons.

First, I can't aim.  At all, nothing, not happening, hours and hours of practice.  The more ME becomes a shooter, the less I like it.  Give me a mouse and a keyboard and I can circle-strafe with the best of them, but give me two analog sticks and I end up dead and looking at the sky in any FPS out there. The only reason I can play Fallout 3/New Vegas is because of VATS, otherwise, those would be a no go as well.  I ended up playing ME on Hardcore most of the time just because I have played it so much, but if ME3 is more of a shooter, I'll be seriously upset. 

Second, I work all day, five days a week, 40+ hours, and I don't want to come home and relax by playing a game in which I die over and over and over. That's work, and I already have a job.  Demon's Souls anyone?  Given away with nary a regret, and Dark Souls will stay on the shelf in the store for me. 

[Sphynx118]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sphynx118 wrote...
They do retard tests on adults in The US of A? I had no idea. Considering your former president and some of your "ideals" i wouldnt take your so called "physicians" seriously. The tests clearly doesnt work as intended. Just sayin.

 And as ive said 2 times now. You can play however you want but dont get all mad and stuff becuase you die 2 times in a GAME.
It would be ok to get mad if you watched a MOVIE and the screen suddenly went red and said Critical failure. But this isnt a movie. You want casual in ME to be an interactive movie and not a game. Death is necesary. Even on casual. 

Ah yes. You're a troll. Don't worry I won't feed you anymore. And I find it amusing you're saying anything's retarded when you don't seem to have basic knowledge of captialization. But again you're a troll. 

And now I'm gonna ignore you. Have a nice life. 

I take it you ran out of arguments and resorted to the troll card then? ^^ Atleast you didnt go all casual on me and call me elititst. Guess thats something. Ra always shine your path then:kissing:

[kstarler]

I actually got interested in the very topic of what difficulties forumites preferred in ME2 a while back, for which I created this poll. I personally like to play ME2 on Insanity (though I started out on Casual), and as far as ME3 goes, I'm probably going to have to wait and see what difficulty I will like best in it, though I suspect I will end up on either Hardcore or Insanity.

For what it is worth to the OP and the readers in this thread, I hope that Casual in ME3 is about the same as it is in ME2 (dumbed down enemies that use powers less), and I hope that the game is overall more difficult for those that want it to be. I see no reason why it can't be both more difficult at higher levels and less difficult at lower levels.

As a side note to the OP, perhaps a couple times through ME2 on Normal/Veteran would help to improve your skills/mastery of the game to make playing ME3 on Casual a smoother experience. This is just a thought that occurs to me, as I personally died a fair amount of times my first couple of runs through the game on Casual, before I got a handle on the game and class mechanics.

[Clonedzero]

well thats why you have easier difficulty settings.

dont make the game too easy for people that enjoy a challenge!

[Dexi]

My first ME2 game was casual... Then I jumped directly into Insanity. Was it hard? **** YES! The mechs kept killing me in Lazarus Base, took 3 hours just to get past that. Then Mordin's recruitment mission... oh my... the horrors!

Now if I turn down the difficulty I go nuts... Insanity's already too easy, if I go even further it's just too easy and boring and uninteresting...

[The Inception]

Tripedius wrote...

While reading all this new info on ME3 I get kind of worried. The combat is faster, enemies come at you more and there is less cover. This all so you can't 'wait behind cover forever, moving through a level is the way to go'. Now I not that much of a shooterfan, cause frankly I suck at it. If enemies tend to move towards me I get into trouble really quick, like with vanguards or husks. Luckily there is such a difficulty as casual on which even I can't screw up (well actually I still died more than I wanted to).

Now since normal is going to be what veteran was in ME2, casual will be normal. With the faster action (fast reaction being my problem) I'm afraid I can't finish the game and have to watch the end on youtube which would really suck. To give people an idea, I liked Transformers, war for cybertron, but never got past freeying Omega Supreme, cause I couldn't beat the game even on easy.

So what I really want to ask is, please make ME3 also accesable for the people who can't really play shooters but do enjoy the story of ME. The difficulty doesn't have to be scaled down in total but please make a difficulty that is accessable to me (and probably others) so we can see the end. This could be even below casual for all I care, with extra cover, stupider enemies and most important, more ammo (!) as I tend to waste a lot before actually killing someone. My favorite methode is snipering from behind cover, but if this is removed (due to faster pace) I might be in trouble.

So in short, don't forget the non-shooter ME fans, please.

Wow, no offense, but you suck at games, just sayin.

[DaBigDragon]

Personally, I think Casual should stay the way it is, but Insanity should be harder.

My brother plays on Casual cause' he's not much of a 3rd person shooter fan, but he still died a lot. However, he did feel that the combat was "just right" for casual.

For me, Insanity was too easy after Horizon. If you keep up with the upgrades, and are fairly good at shooters, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to blow through Insanity in ME2.

I'm hoping that changes for ME3. Casual should stay super easy for the folks who enjoy story and not combat as much. Insanity should be for Mass Effect junkies like myself and others who feel there was no challenge to Insanity.

[Niddy']

ME2 hard? LOL. Game is easy on insanity. I took like a 8 minute video yesterday of 3 mobs going to the same wall below me running back and forth and couldn't move 10 feet over up the stairs to kill me. Even if i shoot them the continue to run back and forth completely ignoring the staircase next to them.


Stand behind something.

[Tripedius]

I'll try one more time. I just want casual the be casual. Nothing more nothing less. I hate dumbing down games to cater to bad players (@Sphinx118), I really didn't like it in DA2 or CiV for instance. However this does not exclude a casual mode. BW should make ME3 a challenging game (which they failed to do with DA2), but instead of upping health and damage on insanity, they should add health etc. on casual. They only thing Im saying is that casual was just fine for me. I don't enjoy doing a fights multiple times cause it's hard like some shooterfans do (in more traditional rpg;s I do though). So ME3 should be accesable for less fps focused players, thats all. Without taking the challenge away on harder levels. It's also NOT about making casual easier, it's about not making it harder. All you elite players shouldn't notice, since you don;t plat casual anyway. Since normal = veteran, casual = normal.

Also, as some have suggested,which is really sick and twisted, its not about about be handicapt or something, it's just what you want from a game. Probably I could beat the game on higher difficulty levels, but that for me wouldnt be fun. Doing things over and such or really being focused about it. And again, this does not influence the higher difficulty levels.
So, the inception, blooddrunk and other jerks go stuff your high opinions of yourselves, I expressed how I wanted to play the game and thats all. I do hope however there are other things in your lives that give you fulfilment cause in the end ME is just pixels. Finally Blooddrunk, nope don't do FPS, most stories suck and are way too short which leaves only multiplayer which is rather boring tbh. CoD, Bioshock, Homefront, Blink, Doom, Quake, Wolvenstein, same old, same old. Played one, played them all. DA:O is a diffrent story, those are my kind of games, can't be difficult enough. ME is different and has a wider audiance than pure shooterfans, please show those people so respect as insulting them mostly make you look stupid.

Edit: @kstarter, indeed casual ME2 is just fine, no need for it to be easier, just not more difficult. Nice poll, if I have to guess it will be split right down the middle 50% casual/normal 50% veteran/insane.

Edit: yeah at casey! (see below).

Modifié par Tripedius, 12 mai 2011 - 07:40 .

[shinyfirefly]

On Twitter, Casey Hudson just posted in response to a question on casual mode still being noob friendly:

Yes, though combat in #ME3 will be more challenging, there will still be an easier setting for people who focus on the story.

https://twitter.com/...758986018652160

[Ryzaki]

shinyfirefly77 wrote...

On Twitter, Casey Hudson just posted in response to a question on casual mode still being noob friendly:

Yes, though combat in #ME3 will be more challenging, there will still be an easier setting for people who focus on the story.

https://twitter.com/...758986018652160

Awesome. 

[Siansonea]

Hey BioWare, how about giving me an "auto combat" button, so the AI can control all the characters until the combat is finished up? I don't play the game for the pew-pew-pew, and if that's the primary focus of the game, I am going to be disappointed. Some people want a challenging combat experience. Give them one, that's fine. But don't penalize the people who just want to get through the combat as quickly as possible to get to 'the good stuff', i.e., story, characters, etc.

[Cancer Puppet]

This os why ME3 will have blind-fire.

[Tripedius]

Siansonea II wrote...

Hey BioWare, how about giving me an "auto combat" button, so the AI can control all the characters until the combat is finished up? I don't play the game for the pew-pew-pew, and if that's the primary focus of the game, I am going to be disappointed. Some people want a challenging combat experience. Give them one, that's fine. But don't penalize the people who just want to get through the combat as quickly as possible to get to 'the good stuff', i.e., story, characters, etc.

Now that is just ridiculous

[DieBySword]

hope they add an option if you choose casual to turn on/off god mode <.<

[Darkhour]

jtav wrote...

I am disabled. So far I've been able to complete both games on Casual, but nothing higher. So, have your Super-Insane mode, but let me be able to play the end of my Shep's story.

*cough* easy mode *cough*.

What do you not understand about "EASY MODE"?

It's there for people like you. To say they should make the entire game fundamentally easier because you are disabled is absurd. And don't say that's not what you meant because if it is the AI group mechanics that accounts for the increase in difficulty (i.e it isn't simply more enemy HP/DMG). They would have to fundamentally change the combat system to make it easier.