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Cerberus is insuring the long term security of humanity with it's biotic program. You should be grateful.

I am grateful. They destroyed one of their own facilities (again) before I even needed to.

Saved me a lot of time.

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My one and only dream for ME3 is that I get to put TIM six feet under.

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michaelrsa wrote...

Seboist wrote...
Cerberus is insuring the long term security of humanity with it's biotic program. You should be grateful.

I am grateful. They destroyed one of their own facilities (again) before I even needed to.

Saved me a lot of time.

They also give affordable healthcare. Corporal Toombs didn't have to pay a thing, and look how healthy he is today!

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Oh poor alliance fans are you shocked that Cerberus was part of the alliance. Bioware needs to come clean on the whole Cerberus / alliance issue as well why is Cerberus after Shepard in 3 .


Because Cerberus is jerks

  


thats cute  but Cerberus saved humanity in 2 . and that is the honest truth about ME 2 so you alliance fans can chew on that 

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thats cute  but Cerberus saved humanity in 2 . and that is the honest truth about ME 2 so you alliance fans can chew on that 


I'm a council fan. I love those aliens.

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They also give affordable healthcare. Corporal Toombs didn't have to pay a thing, and look how healthy he is today!

I only wish Obama's plan had a mandate that every American must have thresher maw acid pumped into their veins.

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thats cute  but Cerberus saved humanity in 2 . and that is the honest truth about ME 2 so you alliance fans can chew on that

They decided that wasn't evil enough so now they're killing humans in ME3. Thankfully the Alliance is willing to take me back. They're so forgiving.

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I'm a council fan. I love those aliens.

Put the banner on.

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[quote]michaelrsa wrote...

[quote]Dean_the_Young wrote...
[/quote]They also give affordable healthcare. Corporal Toombs didn't have to pay a thing, and look how healthy he is today!
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I only wish Obama's plan had a mandate that every American must have thresher maw acid pumped into their veins.

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If it was not for My country the USA half the sh*t that goes on in the world would still be happening if the world didn't come crying to us here in the USA for help .  We are the ones get sh*T done in the world . The pathetic cowards at the UN lknows that .  

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USA! USA! USA! USA!

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Cerberus IS America.

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If it was not for My country the USA half the sh*t that goes on in the world would still be happening if the world didn't come crying to us here in the USA for help .  We are the ones get sh*T done in the world . The pathetic cowards at the UN lknows that . 


You're right, they US does get **** done. Hell, without Reagan giving weapons to the Taliban during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan they would still be small beans.

If it hadn't been for Reagan we might not even be having this bloody and unwinnable war in Afghanistan right now.

Thanks Reagan!

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Oh poor alliance fans are you shocked that Cerberus was part of the alliance. Bioware needs to come clean on the whole Cerberus / alliance issue as well why is Cerberus after Shepard in 3 .


Nobody is shocked, the OP was wondering about a non-existent contradiction between ME1 and ME2. If you've played ME1, you clearly know that Cerberus was black ops Alliance at some point.

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michaelrsa wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...
If it was not for My country the USA half the sh*t that goes on in the world would still be happening if the world didn't come crying to us here in the USA for help .  We are the ones get sh*T done in the world . The pathetic cowards at the UN lknows that . 


You're right, they US does get **** done. Hell, without Reagan giving weapons to the Taliban during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan they would still be small beans.

If it hadn't been for Reagan we might not even be having this bloody and unwinnable war in Afghanistan right now.

Thanks Reagan!

     


yeah and we are the reason why Europe can sit on their asses and do nothing . so yeah USA does the job the other countries have no balls to do 

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Almostfaceman wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Oh poor alliance fans are you shocked that Cerberus was part of the alliance. Bioware needs to come clean on the whole Cerberus / alliance issue as well why is Cerberus after Shepard in 3 .


Nobody is shocked, the OP was wondering about a non-existent contradiction between ME1 and ME2. If you've played ME1, you clearly know that Cerberus was black ops Alliance at some point.

   


Thats another thing in Bioware's ****** poor story telling mechanics 

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Kahokou tells you they were Alliance black ops that "went rogue" in his transmission after the Missing Marines quest. How they managed to do that and become so large in the process could be another problem, but I haven't seen enough info to speculate on it.

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ExtremeOne, can I buy your copy of Mass Effect 3?

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yeah and we are the reason why Europe can sit on their asses and do nothing . so yeah USA does the job the other countries have no balls to do

Or we're the only country who's willing to do things that nobody else in their right mind would want to do.

Man, with that attitude I really have to wonder why anti-Americanism has spread as much as it has.

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ExtremeOne, can I buy your copy of Mass Effect 3?

But I want it!

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ExtremeOne wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Oh poor alliance fans are you shocked that Cerberus was part of the alliance. Bioware needs to come clean on the whole Cerberus / alliance issue as well why is Cerberus after Shepard in 3 .


Nobody is shocked, the OP was wondering about a non-existent contradiction between ME1 and ME2. If you've played ME1, you clearly know that Cerberus was black ops Alliance at some point.

   


Thats another thing in Bioware's ****** poor story telling mechanics 


No, you're just ****** poor at remembering what ME1 tells us about Cerberus.

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michaelrsa wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...
yeah and we are the reason why Europe can sit on their asses and do nothing . so yeah USA does the job the other countries have no balls to do

Or we're the only country who's willing to do things that nobody else in their right mind would want to do.

Man, with that attitude I really have to wonder why ant-Americanism has spread as much as it has.

  


You started it and did you really think as a American I am going to let some one say sh*t about my country with out saying anything .  

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Cerberus is an integral part of the alliance as said before the are unofficially part of the Alliance, without the alliance Cerberus would have never gotten started Cerberus has people in all levels od the alliance and earth gov, they will dominate the galaxy at the end of ME 3

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You started it and did you really think as a American I am going to let some one say sh*t about my country with out saying anything . 

I said that Obama should have made a mandiate that every American have thresher maw acid injected into them. I was talking about Obama. So are you implying that Obama is America?

With more people like you supporting Obama and his views we'll be assured of another 4 years. I'm glad to have you on my side.

It's good to know that even as an African born immigrant to this country there are still people out there I can turn to for support. Thank you for making me feel welcome and allowing me to take your jobs.

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Where is TIM's birth certificate.

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Where is TIM's birth certificate.

I'm not entirely convinced he wasn't born on Palaven and is secretly a turian extremist bent on taking down humanity.

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That's cute, but Cerberus saved humanity in 2. 

No. Shepard and his team Saved humanity.
Oh! But Shepard was brought back to life by Cerberus. Shepard couldn't have done it without them!
Shepard only died because of the Collectors. If it wasn't for them it's arguable that the Collectors would have been eliminated much earlier.
But... Cerberus help design the Normandy! And the SR2 > than the SR1!
Yeah. The SR2 was a nice touch. And yeah, Cerberus pushed the Alliance to co-develope the first Normandy with the Turians. If it wasn't for 'dem aliens' and 'dat alliance' we wouldn't have the Normandy as we know it. And with two years it is probable that the SR1 could have been upgraded farther than the SR2 has been upgraded now. Sure it won't be as large, but size isn't everything. That's why we have a frigate and not a cruiser.
Plus if you really want to pull that card, that just means that Cerberus were the ones who helped convince the Alliance to prototype Shepards part-time ship before copying the designs and building a bigger one, and promtly having that ship lost to the Alliance. They were in no way the ones who put the nails in the Collectors/Reapers coffin.
Okay... but did all those scientific experiments to advance technology to a point where we can hope to face the Reapers!
Yeah. Those certainly turned out well. No further dicussion on that topic needed!
Cerberus gave you intel and funding as well as a direction to start from!
Intel could be gotten from the Council, the Alliance and/or the Shadow Broker. The Council and Alliance are capable enough to have large intelligence networks. Hell, they are better funded, they probably are better than Cerberus at that if they put their minds to it. The only problem with those two is the fact that they have to support so many people (Alliance is in the billions, Council is probably around the trillions. There are a LOT of people in the galaxy) so that they cannot divert 90% of funds towards one team. That said, if they did, the war would have been won already.
No the Shadow Borker poses a problem. Without Cerberus, you couldn't replace him with Liara. Fact. Yes, Cerberus did good. But notice how the only times Cerberus accomplishes something is when Cerberus just gives the Intel to someone else for them to do it. Anyway, now that I have the Shadow Broker, there is no reason to have Cerberus anymore. But seeing as Liara is a squadmember in ME3, then I'll bet the SB network gets taken down or severely damaged.
As for funding... I had 9,999,999 credits in an account that earned interest at the end of ME1. What happened to all that? Okay, okay it was probably given away in Shepard's will, but all he has to do is go back to the Alliance and he'll have funding. Plus, that mining company Shepard runs in his spare time must be pulling in millions from contracts to mining locations alone.
Cerberus does give Shepard some rather nice directioning though. Trap of a friend, trap for shepard, inside a Reaper that can still indoctrenate people, suicide mission, ect ect. That said, Shepard did come out of those alive.

inb4: Your next post proves that you didn't read a word of this

Modifié par Spartanburger, 12 mai 2011 - 11:27 .