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Is it really fair to attack the GI preview of Ashley as being dramatically oversexualized?


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No...he just actually thinks with his brain rather than his ****

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AdmiralCheez

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I don't consider make-up and hair down "girly" ... Grown up women do that stuff better.

Whatever.  Feminine.  Semantics.  Blah.

What I meant is if Ashley is now a spectre she has proven not only her worth to the Alliance but also to the council. Given the "Grandpa Williams" shadow, this would mean a lot to Ash and as a result she would also be proud of herself .... Some individuals when they feel better about themselves start to dress up and take more time on their personal appearance (new hairdo, clothes, makeup, weight loss, jewelry ... oh, a friend says SHOES).

Being a Spectre >>>>> getting a makeover because "ooh, look at me, I'm a Spectre!"  Ashley KNOWS what being a Spectre entails, so she knows it's not something to celebrate, especially since she's essentially Shepard's replacement.  Maybe there's a little pride in that, but really, you know she only got it because she worked with Shepard and they wanted a new Alliance poster child.  She'd see through the political BS in a minute, no matter how qualified she is.  NOT shopping spree material.

Council: Congratulations, you've been selected to take Shepard's place and save the galaxy!
Ash: .... Ffffffffffff--

Now my Shepard loves Ash any way he can get her ... As long as her lips and legs don't change the boy is happy!

I'd be more concerned about her spunk and strength, but they're using the same face model, so she'll be fine.

Also, everyone in the ME universe has FABULOUS legs.  Seriously, everyone.  Even Legion has a beautiful ass.

Oh, and after reading your dialogue, my Shep now hates taking back his Spectre status.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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I don't mind Ash's new look, I hope it's not combat but I've got nothing against it otherwise. What I worry about is Bioware drastically changing the character as well. I liked Ash, and while I would like some character development (it has been 2-3 years) I don't want her to suddenly be a tart or another Miranda (Miranda is Miranda and she's damn good at it let Ash be Ash). Same with Kaidan I liked him in ME1 and really hope he's essentially the same character. Basically I worry that rather than changing the garnish and adding seasoning to the characters Bioware's gonna change the whole damn recipe.

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@DPSSOC: And that's what I'm worried about. If Ash is still Ash, I will shut up and pretend this never happened.

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Except if Ash was still Ash...she wouldn't be dressed that way...

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kylecouch wrote...

Except if Ash was still Ash...she wouldn't be dressed that way...


Except when she walks around the normandy

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Yes. I find it laughable that they gave Kaiden HEAVIER armor, because he's a man, than they turn Ashley into Miranda 2.0 despite her being a Soldier that wore Medium to Heavy Armor. I mean, seriously. What is this?

Failure to the highest degree.

I mean, jeez, it's not like Bioware is afraid of female tanks (Aveline).


Different branch. Besides, you can't tell me that it isn't hilarious that Kaiden is now wearing Heavy Armor despite his class while Ashley is now wearing a catsuit.

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Except the fact she wears military casual.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Different branch. Besides, you can't tell me that it isn't hilarious that Kaiden is now wearing Heavy Armor despite his class while Ashley is now wearing a catsuit.

Kaidan's armor isn't heavy--it's made of marshmallows and hairgel, just like the rest of him.

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kylecouch wrote...

No...he just actually thinks with his brain rather than his ****


This is going back to that whole, "Humans can exist on a higher-than-basic-primal level." thing, which I've already said, I do not believe.

It's one thing to lie to me, it's another to lie to your selves.

You love boobs.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Different branch. Besides, you can't tell me that it isn't hilarious that Kaiden is now wearing Heavy Armor despite his class while Ashley is now wearing a catsuit.

Kaidan's armor isn't heavy--it's made of marshmallows and hairgel, just like the rest of him.


HAHAHAHA!!!

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Ship.wreck wrote...

You love boobs.

So do I, but I don't devote my life to seeking them, nor do I expect the universe to pander to my interests.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Ship.wreck wrote...

You love boobs.

So do I, but I don't devote my life to seeking them, nor do I expect the universe to pander to my interests.


To be fair Cheez, you can just look down. :D

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Dave666 wrote...

To be fair Cheez, you can just look down.

Okay, fine.  I don't devote my life to seeking sculpted six packs and well-groomed chest hair.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...
Okay, fine.  I don't devote my life to seeking sculpted six packs and well-groomed chest hair.


I romanced Jacob for the abs

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

To be fair Cheez, you can just look down.

Okay, fine.  I don't devote my life to seeking sculpted six packs and well-groomed chest hair.


Thanks Cheez, I knew you'd get the joke.  Made me laugh there, cheers! :lol:

*Edit*

@mrsph, for the love of all things holy don't bring up Jacob!  It summons CGG and Cheez's all team is Jacob pic!

*Looks for bleach for eyes just in case*

Modifié par Dave666, 14 mai 2011 - 02:28 .


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I don't see what the big deal is. I love her new look and don't see much difference than her old look. I think most Ash fans are okay with it (the ones I talk to anyway). They took her hair down and gave her breasts a lift and put her in SLIGHTLY more form fitting attire. Get over it.

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Ship.wreck wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

No...he just actually thinks with his brain rather than his ****


This is going back to that whole, "Humans can exist on a higher-than-basic-primal level." thing, which I've already said, I do not believe.

It's one thing to lie to me, it's another to lie to your selves.

You love boobs.


You presume a great many things...all of which are wrong...I don't stare at boobs and ass all day...in fact I cant recall the last time I've ever done it as imo it serves absolutely no purpose to do so.

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you mean pander to your boobs.

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Badpie wrote...

I don't see what the big deal is. I love her new look and don't see much difference than her old look. I think most Ash fans are okay with it (the ones I talk to anyway). They took her hair down and gave her breasts a lift and put her in SLIGHTLY more form fitting attire. Get over it.


Ah, yes "Get over it" the infamous term used when people think they are right without question.

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Ship.wreck wrote...

you mean pander to your boobs.

 I don't even HAVE boobs...shows how little you actually know.

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@Badpie: I'll get over it if they don't give her a new personality to match the look.

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Ship.wreck wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

No...he just actually thinks with his brain rather than his ****


This is going back to that whole, "Humans can exist on a higher-than-basic-primal level." thing, which I've already said, I do not believe.

It's one thing to lie to me, it's another to lie to your selves.

You love boobs.


Sure, but it's even better to love the person who they are attached to. 

It aint just about the boobs, it's about the woman.    I think that's what you're missing from the points people here are trying to make.  Ashley's new boobs don't look like they belong on her.  She was originally portrayed BY BIOWARE as a strong, self assured woman, the breast enlargement wasn't necessary for her character's development.

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Problem A. When you have an RPG like Mass Effect where the party members are a big part of the game, you can't just change their appearence whenever the hell you feel like it.
Problem B. We already have Miranda. You don't need Ashely to look like Miranda.
Problem C. How the hell is that thing supposed to block bullets?!
Problem D. We don't need a pallet swapped Miranda wearing Samus' zero suit.
Problem E. Enough with the over sexualization already. Miranda's ass was already going to far, so don't keep doing it.
I just want Ash to look and act like she did in ME1 and ME2. Just change her model back to how it was and keep her personality as it was and Don't zoom in on her ass or boobs that are 3 times the size of an average human.

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Ship.wreck wrote...

This is going back to that whole, "Humans can exist on a higher-than-basic-primal level." thing, which I've already said, I do not believe.

It's one thing to lie to me, it's another to lie to your selves.

You love boobs.


Incoming "King of The Hill" reference:

Ship.wreck, did you resent your mother when she stopped breast-feeding you?