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Is it really fair to attack the GI preview of Ashley as being dramatically oversexualized?


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Obvakhi wrote...

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Yes it does. In ME1 and ME2 she would never wear such tings into battle. Bioware has decided that Ashley was too boring thus they have retconned her into the biggest **** in to the ME Series to get more sales.


Do you have ME3 already? How do you know this will be the only outfit Ashley wears?


ME2 - Miranda
DA2 - Isabella

Learn to connect the dots.You sound just like the fools that denied that what was revealed was the final outfits for those two. How wrong they are and how wrong you are right at this moment.

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Elite Midget wrote...

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The people that are complaining it seems, just have a problem with the breast size, at least that's what it sounds like. And if that is the case, your being just as superficial as the people you say Bioware is pandering to.
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Every female in ME, had the exact same body, with the exception of Benezia. 
The casual wear aboard the SR1 was form fitting on the upper body, the outfit you see Ashley wearing in the new shot is form fitting at the top. And that's all you know. You have no idea what portion of ME3 that shot was taken from. You have no idea what occasion was going on in that shot. in short.......

YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!
Your speculating and raging over something you have no clue on what the context of it is.

Sorry I went on a little rant there. :P  


You've read nothing and have made a baseless assumption. Learn to read because I'm getting tired of correcting the igorant on this matter. People are mad because Kaiden has Heavy Armor now and Ashley, he wore Heavy Armor for two games and constantly mocked barbie doll chicks like Moranda, is now a Barbie doll in a catsuit.

I point to...

Leaked Miranda and Isabella. So many were ignorant like you and lied to yourselfs to cope with Biowares oversexualization. You were proven wrong than and you're proven wrong now. Learn from your mistakes already.


And you need to take your own advise. Again you complaining about one photo, that you know nothing about. You complain that they're turning Ashley into a Miranda clone, on what proof? A screen shot you know nothing about? So you tell me who's being I-G-N-O-R-A-N-T 

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trucoolbrees wrote...

And you need to take your own advise. Again you complaining about one photo, that you know nothing about. You complain that they're turning Ashley into a Miranda clone, on what proof? A screen shot you know nothing about? So you tell me who's being I-G-N-O-R-A-N-T 


No, you're the ignorant one.

ME2 = Miranda
DA2 = Isabella

Now it's...

ME3 = Ashley

Seriously, why are so many this daft? Do I have to spell everything out for you? Can't you connect the dots on your own? Don't you have the mental capacity to even do such a simple thing as that?

Modifié par Elite Midget, 14 mai 2011 - 06:32 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

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This sentiment is really over the top:

Ashley is now Isabella 2.0 and Miranda 2.0 who did the fusion dance together.

Basically Bioware has turned Ashley into the biggest **** in their recent two game series.


Really? Biggest slut? REALLY? Give me a break.


Isabella slept with anyone and everything. Miranda was made to be the most sexually attractive woman in ME. Thus they took the worst of Miranda and Isabella and threw it up all over Ashley and called it a 'redesign' while Kaiden just got updated graphics and heavy armor he could never wear in ME1.


First, you've only seen a picture of Ashley wearing a shirt that appears to be made of some form-fitting leathery material and you're already passing judgments that she's going to be worse than someone who has "slept with anyone and everything."

Second, I really would not call Ashley's appearance "oversexualized." We haven't seen enough of her outfit to really know its true merits, and from what we have seen, it's fairly tame. The SoulCalibur games consistently depict women in an atrocious manner. This is an example of the far end of oversexualized: 

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Compare:

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Ashley's appearance may be out of character to some, but it is far from being "oversexualized." Ashley's "cleavage" is nothing more than a zipper from her shirt that doesn't reveal particularly much. Hell, these people are wearing less:

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By the criteria you are operating under, you might as well call any girl who is showing so much as several square inches of skin a "raging slut."

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Didnt in ME1 she say she wore a tight miniskirt? I can see her wearing something sexy


I think the quote you're looking for is when Shep Ash and Kaidan are looking our at the CItadel:

Ash:  "Or maybe they just don't like humans"

Shepard: "Why not? We've got oceans, beautiful women, this emotion called love. According to the old vids, we have everything they want. "

Ash: "Yeah, well if you want me in a tin foil mini skirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first... Uh... sir..."

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Ah thats the quote. I play a femshep mostly so I dont get that line. But still she entertains the thought. I can see her wearing something like what she is. That suit isnt sl*tty or skimpy, its form fitting. And she has a nice form if I might say so. B)

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Only fool here is you Midget, jumping to conclusions in order to wallow in your own fears.

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Elite Midget wrote...

trucoolbrees wrote...

And you need to take your own advise. Again you complaining about one photo, that you know nothing about. You complain that they're turning Ashley into a Miranda clone, on what proof? A screen shot you know nothing about? So you tell me who's being I-G-N-O-R-A-N-T 


No, you're the ignorant one.

ME2 = Miranda
DA2 = Isabella

Now it's...

ME3 = Ashley

Seriously, why are so many this daft? Do I have to spell everything out for you? Can't you connect the dots on your own? Don't you have the mental capacity to even do such a simple thing as that?


Then you already know this is a losing battle and all your ranting is just a waste of time.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

It's not like she looks like this:

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She might under the suit :whistle:

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And you still haven't told me what's wrong with dressing as a sl*t as you put it.

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First, you've only seen a picture of Ashley wearing a shirt that appears to be made of some form-fitting leathery material and you're already passing judgments that she's going to be worse than someone who has "slept with anyone and everything."

Second, I really would not call Ashley's appearance "oversexualized." We haven't seen enough of her outfit to really know its true merits, and from what we have seen, it's fairly tame. The SoulCalibur games consistently depict women in an atrocious manner. This is an example of the far end of oversexualized: 


Not bothering reading your posts compared unaffliated games with Bioware ones.

That isn't a shirt. It's a Catsuit like Miranda's. Expect Buttshots and her bending over to show ff her cleaveage. This is the way Bioware treats women now. Yes I am. Isabella may be a **** but she has the back history for it. Ashley was never a **** and said she would never wear those things into battle. Bioware has retconned that out to make her more whorish than Isabella.

Guess Fans will finally get that Shepard+Liara+Ashley threesome after all.

That's what Isabella and Miranda fans did. Look what happened. Bioware is repeating the same crude all over again and you're eatting it up like all the other suckers in the past.

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Only fool here is you Midget, jumping to conclusions in order to wallow in your own fears.


Hah, you say I'm the fool yet you have no way to counter the Isabella and Miranda arguement. Fools in the past said the same thing about those two and guess what? The people complaining about those two, when they were first leaked, were right and those that called them the 'fools' were the ones who looked foolish in the end.

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If you can't understand my original post, which obviously you can't. I not gonna waste my time explaining it any further to somebody with the intelligence of a tick. Enjoy arguing with yourself because obviously everyone else is dumb, and your the smart one, ..heh ....right.

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Then you already know this is a losing battle and all your ranting is just a waste of time.


So what you're saying is that Fans shouldn't voice their opinion? Just bend over and take it? Just like the Tali and and Garrus fans did? I mean, it's not like Bioware changed things for ME2 to make them romanceable or that they're the only ME2 squaddies returning... OHWAIT!

Now is the best time out of any to complain because ME3 still has a ways to go. They could still change things that's why many others are demanding that Bioware explain itself and fix this retcon.

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Answer my question in the above post.

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Guys, I think we are being trolled here. If not well I have another comment. You dont have to do the shep, ash, liara threesome if you dont want. Because of course BW will put that in there.

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trucoolbrees wrote...

If you can't understand my original post, which obviously you can't. I not gonna waste my time explaining it any further to somebody with the intelligence of a tick. Enjoy arguing with yourself because obviously everyone else is dumb, and your the smart one, ..heh ....right.


Again you dodge my arguements and pretend that you're surperior because of it. Pathetic. If you aren't even going to bother to counter legit arguements that tear your wishy washy ones a part than why bother posting in this Topic? All it does is make you look even more ignorant everytime you continue posting your drivel.

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And you still haven't told me what's wrong with dressing as a sl*t as you put it.


Fine. Isabella is a ****, it's her character. Ashley isn't a **** and says that she hates ****s and woman they demean themselves in such a matter. Thus turning Ashley into a **** is a retcon, wasen't asked for, and is plain stupid.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Guys, I think we are being trolled here. If not well I have another comment. You dont have to do the shep, ash, liara threesome if you dont want. Because of course BW will put that in there.


They wont if they weren't retconning Ashley into a ****. Ashley from ME1 and ME2 would never agree to a threesome. Hell, she rejects Shepard in ME1 at the mere suggestion of such. Instead Bioware is pretending that doesn't exist and that Ashley was a **** all a long.

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The 3 o'clock looks like a rotten, screaming dick.

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Elite Midget wrote...

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And you still haven't told me what's wrong with dressing as a sl*t as you put it.


Fine. Isabella is a ****, it's her character. Ashley isn't a **** and says that she hates ****s and woman they demean themselves in such a matter. Thus turning Ashley into a **** is a retcon, wasen't asked for, and is plain stupid.

Why don't you consider that she may have changed her views after 3 years? 

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It's a good thing Ashley died in my canon playthrough so my femshep won't see her character butchered like this.

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Again you dodge my arguements and pretend that you're surperior because of it. Pathetic..


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Why don't you consider that she may have changed her views after 3 years? 


You mean like she changed her views in ME2? OHWAIT!

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I will not stand for your racist comments.

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Does she talk about this stuff in ME2? NO.