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Is it really fair to attack the GI preview of Ashley as being dramatically oversexualized?


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Elite Midget wrote...

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Guys, I think we are being trolled here. If not well I have another comment. You dont have to do the shep, ash, liara threesome if you dont want. Because of course BW will put that in there.


They wont if they weren't retconning Ashley into a ****. Ashley from ME1 and ME2 would never agree to a threesome. Hell, she rejects Shepard in ME1 at the mere suggestion of such. Instead Bioware is pretending that doesn't exist and that Ashley was a **** all a long.


MMMM I hope they put that threesome in there. God my femshep was just waiting for the oppottunity to get Ash and Liara together and just have a threeway. Thats what these games are all about. Sims:The dating and shooting edition. Now with Sl*ts in non Sl*tty clothes. And there is no way she can reject shepard. She is the magic seducer.

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Does she talk about this stuff in ME2? NO.


Does she wear a catsuit in ME2? No! She wears what she wore in ME1 and still holds her belies from ME1. Such as her distain for Cerberus. ME1=ME2 Ashley. ME3 Ashley = ****.

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First, you've only seen a picture of Ashley wearing a shirt that appears to be made of some form-fitting leathery material and you're already passing judgments that she's going to be worse than someone who has "slept with anyone and everything."

Second, I really would not call Ashley's appearance "oversexualized." We haven't seen enough of her outfit to really know its true merits, and from what we have seen, it's fairly tame. The SoulCalibur games consistently depict women in an atrocious manner. This is an example of the far end of oversexualized: 

That isn't a shirt. It's a Catsuit like Miranda's. Expect Buttshots and her bending over to show ff her cleaveage. This is the way Bioware treats women now. Yes I am. Isabella may be a **** but she has the back history for it. Ashley was never a **** and said she would never wear those things into battle. Bioware has retconned that out to make her more whorish than Isabella.


You cannot say it is a catsuit because you haven't seen the whole outfit, and your expectation of "Buttshots and her bending over to show ff her cleaveage [sic]" is unfounded. Ashley is a character that has history and I do not think BW would write her off that differently. You have very little evidence to support the contention that Ash is "more whorish than Isabella." And the little evidence you have is flimsy.

Also, form fitting does not equate to "****ty."

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theelementslayer wrote...

MMMM I hope they put that threesome in there. God my femshep was just waiting for the oppottunity to get Ash and Liara together and just have a threeway. Thats what these games are all about. Sims:The dating and shooting edition. Now with Sl*ts in non Sl*tty clothes. And there is no way she can reject shepard. She is the magic seducer.


You're a fool. Ashley isn't a Bi option. Instead she will **** herself out to every man she can untill Shepard notices her because that's what Bioware wants to do with her character atm. Making her a ****. The only reason she would agree to that threesome now is...

1) She's a **** now.
2) Liara isn't a female apparantly.

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Elite Midget wrote...

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Then you already know this is a losing battle and all your ranting is just a waste of time.


So what you're saying is that Fans shouldn't voice their opinion? Just bend over and take it? Just like the Tali and and Garrus fans did? I mean, it's not like Bioware changed things for ME2 to make them romanceable or that they're the only ME2 squaddies returning... OHWAIT!

Now is the best time out of any to complain because ME3 still has a ways to go. They could still change things that's why many others are demanding that Bioware explain itself and fix this retcon.


The Garrus & Tali romance was a much bigger issue and demand... nothing to do with an appearance change.
Sorry, but they're not gonna do a complete 180 and just drop Ashley's new look.

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You cannot say it is a catsuit because you haven't seen the whole outfit, and your expectation of "Buttshots and her bending over to show ff her cleaveage [sic]" is unfounded. Ashley is a character that has history and I do not think BW would write her off that differently. You have very little evidence to support the contention that Ash is "more whorish than Isabella." And the little evidence you have is flimsy.

Also, form fitting does not equate to "****ty."


Whoa, the lack of intelligence in you is strong. You sound JUST like those that assured everyone that Miranda isn't wearing a catsuit and that even if she was she wouldn't wear it into battle. Funny how 'that' turned out, right?

They already did. Look at her retconned outfit. ME1 and ME2 Ashley would never wear that in public. ME3 Ashley, the ****. will now due to retcons to sell sex.

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Obvakhi wrote...

The Garrus & Tali romance was a much bigger issue and demand... nothing to do with an appearance change.
Sorry, but they're not gonna do a complete 180 and just drop Ashley's new look.


Funny how you say that even though the two most active Topics on this part of th forum is abour Ashley's new ****ty look and how many hate it.

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Midget your accusations are totally feeble and unfounded. Stop BSing.

Also there is nothing wrong with looking attractive. It isn't a retcon. Even if she dresses like that in battle, I don't care.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 14 mai 2011 - 07:00 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

MMMM I hope they put that threesome in there. God my femshep was just waiting for the oppottunity to get Ash and Liara together and just have a threeway. Thats what these games are all about. Sims:The dating and shooting edition. Now with Sl*ts in non Sl*tty clothes. And there is no way she can reject shepard. She is the magic seducer.


You're a fool. Ashley isn't a Bi option. Instead she will **** herself out to every man she can untill Shepard notices her because that's what Bioware wants to do with her character atm. Making her a ****. The only reason she would agree to that threesome now is...

1) She's a **** now.
2) Liara isn't a female apparantly.


Damn and here I was going through the last two games trying to make her sleep with my femshep. Damn, thanks for telling me she isnt bi. Ah well, now that shes a **** she'll be bi. Time to start up the game, romance liara and then get the Bi going on in ME3. BooYah

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The obvious boob job came out of nowhere, though. As for the hair, I'd like it more if it was put up more...professionally. She's still a soldier, and I've never seen a soldier with hair that long. Mostly because it'd be impractical as hell.

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Unfortunately sex sells in almost every area of marketing. As frustrating as it looks, that's the world we live in.

I don't see the real problem with Ashley looking like that in ME3, it's not like she's wearing lingerie or anything. Just because she's wearing a leather looking suit, or like some claim that she looks like Miranda now, you can't jump to conclusions. There's literally like 8 months before release. That could be the suit under her armor OR her actual armor with some background information as to why (maybe she's not a soldier anymore, who knows).

Trying to claim by stating facts is just silly, it's a game. Bioware can develop the game however they want. If they feel that Ashley needed some "tweaks" then so be it. Having arguments as to she looks like a barbie isn't going to help improve anything. They had this planned ways before they started the whole "ME series project".

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Midget your accusations are totally far reaching and unfounded. Stop BSing.


This is Midget you're talking too.

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I need to get my troll spray....

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Obvakhi wrote...

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Yes it does. In ME1 and ME2 she would never wear such tings into battle. Bioware has decided that Ashley was too boring thus they have retconned her into the biggest **** in to the ME Series to get more sales.


Do you have ME3 already? How do you know this will be the only outfit Ashley wears?


And how does EM know that she has been bed jumping? Kaiden said he went on a date with a doctor .... but I don't remember Ash writing Shep and saying she dated the whole hospital.Image IPB

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Midget your accusations are totally far reaching and unfounded. Stop BSing.

Also there is nothing wrong with looking attractive. It isn't a retcon. Even if she dresses like that in battle, I don't care.


ME2 - Miranda

DA2 - Isabella

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Ah thats the quote. I play a femshep mostly so I dont get that line. But still she entertains the thought. I can see her wearing something like what she is. That suit isnt sl*tty or skimpy, its form fitting. And she has a nice form if I might say so. Image IPB


Yeah she's jokingly referring to wearing it as part of a..hmm..., what's a tasteful way of putting this? "A satisfactory conclusion to a date" ::winkwinknudgenudge::

I could also see her wearing something like that blue jumpsuit. Assuming it's not as spray-painted on as Miranda's outfit, which I am not 100% sure of. But off duty. Perhaps attending Shepard's trial on her own time. Going about her business on the Citadel or the Normandy. But it's not armor. I'm not even sure it's a uniform. This worries me, because of the last couple of games Bioware has put out (yes DA2 is a different team, but it's the same company, and they do crib off each other) each character really only gets one "look" with only minor changes as an "unlockable" outfit.

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How do we know this is not a uniform as such that shes wearing at the start of ME 3 during Shephards trial ?
  Also Bioware may have decided to dress your crew casually like Shep whilst on the Normandy. Just a thought.
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I need to get my troll spray....


You already wasted it spraying yourself. It didn't work, you weren't intelligent enough for it to take effect.

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I predict that this thread will grow 10 pages by the time I finish my mvie.

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DarthKaldriss wrote...

How do we know this is not a uniform as such that shes wearing at the start of ME 3 during Shephards trial ?
  Also Bioware may have decided to dress your crew casually like Shep whilst on the Normandy. Just a thought.
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Apparantly you didn't see the GI picture of ME3 Liara wearing her 'casual' outfit as her 'battle' outfit. Ergo, they're only getting one outfit for both scenario's.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Midget your accusations are totally far reaching and unfounded. Stop BSing.

Also there is nothing wrong with looking attractive. It isn't a retcon. Even if she dresses like that in battle, I don't care.


ME2 - Miranda

DA2 - Isabella

And then from one picture of Ash in a leather suit, you say she is a sl*t who sleeps with more people than Isabella? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is?

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 14 mai 2011 - 07:02 .


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I predict that this thread will grow 10 pages by the time I finish my mvie.


I hope they don't have subtitles because you wouldn't understand the movie since you can't read and listen at the same time.

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And then from one picture of Ash in a leather suit, you say she is a sl*t who sleeps with more people than Isabella? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is?


And then in one picture of Miranda/Isabella in a catsuit/**** outfit, you sau she's a **** who sleeps with more people than Ashley? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is? I mean, it's not like Bioware hasen't done this for two games in a row already....

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Midget your accusations are totally far reaching and unfounded. Stop BSing.

Also there is nothing wrong with looking attractive. It isn't a retcon. Even if she dresses like that in battle, I don't care.


ME2 - Miranda

DA2 - Isabella

And then from one picture of Ash in a leather suit, you say she is a sl*t who sleeps with more people than Isabella? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is?


The mods may step in and close this thread before those 10 more pages are added.

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And then in one picture of Miranda/Isabella in a catsuit/**** outfit, you sau she's a **** who sleeps with more people than Ashley? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is? I mean, it's not like Bioware hasen't done this for two games in a row already....


Miri doesnt sleep around. Shes the exact opposite. Ashley doesnt sleep around. Form fitting or Slu*ty dress does not make her a ****. Isabella sleeps around because she says she does. and she has her reasons. Stop being so how do I put this politely, hardheaded?