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Is it really fair to attack the GI preview of Ashley as being dramatically oversexualized?


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DarthKaldriss wrote...

How do we know this is not a uniform as such that shes wearing at the start of ME 3 during Shephards trial ?
  Also Bioware may have decided to dress your crew casually like Shep whilst on the Normandy. Just a thought.
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Honestly, we don't know, but it's less than likely.  We haven't seen uniforms or casual outfits for any other character so far, only armor (heck the only pic we've seen of Anderson he's wearing armor)  THis leads me to believe that "what you see is what you get"

In addition, squadmates/companions in ME 2 (and DA2) didn't have casual clothes. 

The best we can probably hope for is that this outfit is like Aveline's starting look:  Refugee without acess to armor, but will get some welded on as soon as she's somewhere safe.

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Elite Midget wrote...

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And then from one picture of Ash in a leather suit, you say she is a sl*t who sleeps with more people than Isabella? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is?


And then in one picture of Miranda/Isabella in a catsuit/**** outfit, you sau she's a **** who sleeps with more people than Ashley? Don't you see how utterly ridiculous this claim is? I mean, it's not like Bioware hasen't done this for two games in a row already....

Miranda was a new character, Isabella already had a sl*tty history in DAO. Ash has a history as a non sl*t so you can't use these examples. If Bioware had actually retconned a character to be more sl*tty, then you might have a point.

Also wearing a tight fitting leather suit isn't sl*tty.

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boy, someone sounds really pissed at this whole thing...

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That "suit" is ooc. That is a fact, proven many times with qoutes from ME 1 or her appearance from ME 2.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Miri doesnt sleep around. Shes the exact opposite. Ashley doesnt sleep around. Form fitting or Slu*ty dress does not make her a ****. Isabella sleeps around because she says she does. and she has her reasons. Stop being so how do I put this politely, hardheaded?


So she wasen't going on all those dates in the past? Or when she was sleeping around with Jacob than discarded him when he wasen't good enough? No way, that's not what Miranda did! OHWAIT.

Stop being so naive.

Ashley of ME3 is the new Miranda and Isabella. Bioware is making of habit of having at least one woman get demeaned to sell sex.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Damn and here I was going through the last two games trying to make her sleep with my femshep. Damn, thanks for telling me she isnt bi. Ah well, now that shes a **** she'll be bi. Time to start up the game, romance liara and then get the Bi going on in ME3. BooYah


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TheKillerAngel wrote...

The mods may step in and close this thread before those 10 more pages are added.


I hope not.  Some of us aren't using the upper right dialogue choices...Image IPB

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Miranda was a new character, Isabella already had a sl*tty history in DAO. Ash has a history as a non sl*t so you can't use these examples. If Bioware had actually retconned a character to be more ****ty, then you might have a point.

Also wearing a tight fitting leather suit isn't sl*tty.


Ashley has a history of wearing armor and smack talking those that demean themselves to sell their bodies as sex objects. ME3 Ashley refuses to wear armor and is demeaning herself to sell her body as a sex object.

I have a point. Wanna know why?

ME2 - Miranda
DA2 - Isabella

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I don't think her outfit is ****ty at all. I just wish it could be more...militarized.

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Why do you say it's demeaning to be a sl*t? Sexism much?

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Babli wrote...

That "suit" is ooc. That is a fact, proven many times with qoutes from ME 1 or her appearance from ME 2.


Which is what I'm trying to explain to some of the more naive ones in this bunch. They simply blind themselves  to the truth and ignore blantant examples of Bioware doing this in the past. Such as Miranda and Isabella which the same people assured the rest of us that what those two wore into battle wasen't those outfits. They were wrong than and they're wrong now.

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Elite Midget wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Miri doesnt sleep around. Shes the exact opposite. Ashley doesnt sleep around. Form fitting or Slu*ty dress does not make her a ****. Isabella sleeps around because she says she does. and she has her reasons. Stop being so how do I put this politely, hardheaded?


So she wasen't going on all those dates in the past? Or when she was sleeping around with Jacob than discarded him when he wasen't good enough? No way, that's not what Miranda did! OHWAIT.

Stop being so naive.

Ashley of ME3 is the new Miranda and Isabella. Bioware is making of habit of having at least one woman get demeaned to sell sex.


Dating != ****ty, and she didnt like jacob enough so she dumped him. "She requires a better man than I" Seemed like jacob had his own problems too. Stop thinking you are omniprescent you dont know what will happen.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Why do you say it's demeaning to be a sl*t? Sexism much?


Yes it is. If you have that little respect for your body than you're demeaning yourself for the benefit of another who couldn't care a bit about you.

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Elite Midget wrote...

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The Garrus & Tali romance was a much bigger issue and demand... nothing to do with an appearance change.
Sorry, but they're not gonna do a complete 180 and just drop Ashley's new look.


Funny how you say that even though the two most active Topics on this part of th forum is abour Ashley's new ****ty look and how many hate it.


And so are many other topics with demands... doesn't mean it's gonna happen, pal.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Dating != ****ty, and she didnt like jacob enough so she dumped him. "She requires a better man than I" Seemed like jacob had his own problems too. Stop thinking you are omniprescent you dont know what will happen.


ME2 - Miranda
DA2 - Isabella

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Obvakhi wrote...

And so are many other topics with demands... doesn't mean it's gonna happen, pal.


Garrus and Tali. That is all.

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And how do you know Ash refuses to wear armour? From 1 picture of her not wearing armour? What you think she sleeps in armour and washes in armour?

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Elite Midget wrote...

theelementslayer wrote...

Dating != ****ty, and she didnt like jacob enough so she dumped him. "She requires a better man than I" Seemed like jacob had his own problems too. Stop thinking you are omniprescent you dont know what will happen.


ME2 - Miranda
DA2 - Isabella


ME2 - Samara
DA2- Merril

Ooooo I can do taht too. I can label off squadmates. Lets see if I can do more.

ME2- damn Im out, guess Im not a real fan of any squadmate that doesnt show MOAR BOOB

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Elite Midget wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Why do you say it's demeaning to be a sl*t? Sexism much?


Yes it is. If you have that little respect for your body than you're demeaning yourself for the benefit of another who couldn't care a bit about you.

Oh really. You don't think woman might enjoy the attention or the sex? No they need to cover up while men are free to show off.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

And how do you know Ash refuses to wear armour? From 1 picture of her not wearing armour? What you think she sleeps in armour and washes in armour?


ME2 and DA2 set the presidence for how Bioware handles Squaddies for ME3. That and we've already seen Liara not getting an outfit switch for battle. Furthermore Kaiden's "Armor" has the same symbols as Ashley's catsuit. Thus it's her defaukt ****suit she'll wear in battle, in space, and on the normandy.

Just.
Like.
ME2.
Miranda.

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Has anyone really thought about how she may of just.. Changed? It was 2 years between ME1 and ME2, then we only saw her in an area which required battle armour. I knew really innocent people that over a 2-3 year period they have changed completely!
We also know barely anything about ME3, who says they havnt now got a battle suit and a casual suit for the Normandy to feel comfy? Other than that she still doesn't look attractive.
Some of these comments do make me /facepalm though, why do people get SO upset over such small changes?

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[quote]theelementslayer wrote...

ME2 - Miranda
DA2 - Isabella[/quote]

ME2 - Samara
DA2- Merril

Ooooo I can do taht too. I can label off squadmates. Lets see if I can do more.

ME2- damn Im out, guess Im not a real fan of any squadmate that doesnt show MOAR BOOB

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Changes nothing. Samara mentions that she's been with many men/women and has had a couple children. Her outfit is inappropiate but since she's an alien Bioware was allowed to get away with it.

Merril has more cloths on her body than Miranda and Isabella put together.

Well good news for you! Bioware is ****ting up the women to show more boobies to appease your low sex drive!

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Turran wrote...

Has anyone really thought about how she may of just.. Changed? It was 2 years between ME1 and ME2, then we only saw her in an area which required battle armour. I knew really innocent people that over a 2-3 year period they have changed completely!
We also know barely anything about ME3, who says they havnt now got a battle suit and a casual suit for the Normandy to feel comfy? Other than that she still doesn't look attractive.
Some of these comments do make me /facepalm though, why do people get SO upset over such small changes?


So she didn't change at all in ME2 yet in ME3 she suddenly changes without explanation? That's just bad writing and you would be a sucker to just shrug your shoulders and believe it.

This isn't a small change. Ashley was a Soldier now she's a ****. That's a big change.

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Turran wrote...

Has anyone really thought about how she may of just.. Changed? It was 2 years between ME1 and ME2, then we only saw her in an area which required battle armour. I knew really innocent people that over a 2-3 year period they have changed completely!
We also know barely anything about ME3, who says they havnt now got a battle suit and a casual suit for the Normandy to feel comfy? Other than that she still doesn't look attractive.
Some of these comments do make me /facepalm though, why do people get SO upset over such small changes?


Because its the internet and I am always MOAR RIGHT.
(Obvious sarcasm is obvious?)

To answer your question though, I think she may have just changed too. Does it bother me nah, she went through alot, who knows what shepards death and supposed betrayal did to her. and people are upset becuase it upsets the plan. As joker said all you need it a little push. :lol:

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Elite Midget wrote...
Garrus and Tali. That is all.


I smell buuuutthuuuurt...:whistle: