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Is it really fair to attack the GI preview of Ashley as being dramatically oversexualized?


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Elite Midget wrote...

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Ok I'm gonna give you the same excuse people gave me for why she didn't change between ME 1 and 2 cause it would be been a waste of resources for a character who was only in for a cameo apperance. If you notice Ashely, Kaidan and Liara pre-Shadow Broker didn't have updated appearances. It was only when Shadow Broker was released that Liara changed her make-up and such. For the record I like Ash's new softer look, but wouldn't be against Bioware putting her in armor like Miranda's dlc armor as an exmaple.


So you're saying that the retcon is okay because they can afford it now and that if we want armor we should have to pay extra and buy the DLC? Really, that's your solution?


No that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that if during development Bioware decided to change Ash's outfit to full armor kind of like Miaranda's dlc armor as an example it wouldn't bug me. I'm also saying that I have no problem with what appears to be a softer Ashely from the screen shot. Also that comment about Ash, Kaidan and Liara not getting updates in ME 2 was thrown at me about why they didn't change them by someone who didn't care for the new Ashley.  

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Dave666 wrote...

Nevermind. I can't be bothered to argue about the word Retcon, its just not worth it.


Not even going to bother responding to this. I believe the mod asked us both to stop.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 16 mai 2011 - 12:07 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

Nevermind. I can't be bothered to argue about the word Retcon, its just not worth it.


Not even going to boher responding to this. I believe the mod asked us both to stop.


Elite, you're boring the Commander with tech.

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Shadowrun1177 wrote...
No that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that if during development Bioware decided to change Ash's outfit to full armor kind of like Miaranda's dlc armor as an example it wouldn't bug me. I'm also saying that I have no problem with what appears to be a softer Ashely from the screen shot. Also that comment about Ash, Kaidan and Liara not getting updates in ME 2 was thrown at me about why they didn't change them by someone who didn't care for the new Ashley.  


Than stop bringing up the DLC armor thing than because it wasen't a part of the base game. This isn't a softer Ashley this is Miranda 2.0. Notice the catsuit, the extra make-up, and the half closed eyes. Just like Miranda!

If Tali had her face revealed there would be a Topic about that because it would ruin Tali for many. Does that make Tali fans superficial? No, it doesn't. Thus Ashley Fans are in the right in their outcry over this character assassination.

Ashley doesn't wear Catsuits in battle, at least not the Ashley we knew from ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 16 mai 2011 - 12:09 .


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Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Elite, you're boring the Commander with tech.


Egging me on? Just because the Mod didn't mention your name doesn't give you a free pass to make a snide remark like this. It applies to everyone else he would have just PMed the two of us.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Than stop bringing up the DLC armor thing than because it wasen't a part of the base game. This isn't a softer Ashley this is Miranad 2.0. Notice the catsuit, the extra make-up, and the half closed eyes. Just like Miranda!

If Tali had her face revealed there would be a Topic about that because it would ruin Tali for many. Does that make Tali fans superficial? No, it doesn't. Thus Ashley Fans are in the right in their outcry over this character assassination.

Ashley doesn't wear Catsuits in battle, at least not the Ashley we knew from ME1 and ME2.


Don't tell me what to bring up and what not to especially when I'm using it as an example, just cause you seem to lack the understanding of an example is doesn't make me wrong for bringing it up. Your the one assuming I want it as dlc not me. It's your opinion that this new look is Miranda 2.0 thats not a fact just your opinion and no I don't think it makes her Miranda 2.0, Mirandrized or whatever.

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Shadowrun1177 wrote...

Don't tell me what to bring up and what not to especially when I'm using it as an example, just cause you seem to lack the understanding of an example is doesn't make me wrong for bringing it up. Your the one assuming I want it as dlc not me. It's your opinion that this new look is Miranda 2.0 thats not a fact just your opinion and no I don't think it makes her Miranda 2.0, Mirandrized or whatever.


I can tell you too if it is irrelevant. What translate into DLC means nothing. Look at ME1 to ME2. None of the ME1 DLC was relevant or made a difference for ME2. Thus why should any of the ME2 DLC? Especially the 'alternate' and 'optional' appearance packs that not everyone even bought.

You should only compare base game with base game and not the extras that we were charged extra for.

It is a fact.

Compare ME1+ME2 Ashley with ME3 Ashley. No resembalance despire minor facial features.

Compare ME3 Ashley and Miranda. Huge resembalance.

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Nathan Redgrave

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Elite Midget wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Elite, you're boring the Commander with tech.


Egging me on? Just because the Mod didn't mention your name doesn't give you a free pass to make a snide remark like this. It applies to everyone else he would have just PMed the two of us.


Actually, I'm joking. Stop being so goddamn touchy.

"Dude, I'm not going to bother to reply."
"Elite, you just responded! LOLZ"

Get it now? -.-

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A post isn't the same as myself making a reply on what I could have said.

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Elite Midget wrote...

I can tell you too if it is irrelevant. What translate into DLC means nothing. Look at ME1 to ME2. None of the ME1 DLC was relevant or made a difference for ME2. Thus why should any of the ME2 DLC? Especially the 'alternate' and 'optional' appearance packs that not everyone even bought.

You should only compare base game with base game and not the extras that we were charged extra for.

It is a fact.

Compare ME1+ME2 Ashley with ME3 Ashley. No resembalance despire minor facial features.

Compare ME3 Ashley and Miranda. Huge resembalance.


No you can't tell me too cause you think it's irrelevant, people complained about Miranda's outfit in ME 2 so they made a heavier armor for download. I was using it as an example of a change that if Bioware during the development of ME 3 decided to change Ashley's outfit too something similar it wouldn't bug me, but that I have no issues with the current outfit and look of Ashley. So clearly it isn't irrelevant expect in your mind.

Modifié par Shadowrun1177, 16 mai 2011 - 12:24 .


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Discussion is one thing. This has descended into bickering. Locked.