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[PauloT-Soni]

alperez wrote...

The miranda in danger makes perfect sense as the character needs some reason to be absent at the beginning of the game and then be reintroduced. This reintro has to fit into both new and returning players viewpoints and also allow for the choice Miranda may make at the end of me2 to play a part.

We know Shepard basically starts off alone, so where did everyone go, well it makes sense that Miranda would go check on her sister (maybe not actually see her but make sure she's ok).We also know that Cerberus is after Shepard and that this time they want Shepard dead.

So Miranda, her sister or both being taken/chased by cerberus fits into this and answers all the questions easily. If Miranda quits cerberus, they go after her and her sister, if she doesn't but now finds that cerberus are working against shepard ditto.

A new player gets the default ex-cerberus friend of shepard therefore cerberus are after her and Shepard needs to help her. A returning player gets either a Miri that has gone against cerberus's new direction or a Miri that quit them and is now being held/chased by them. If you romanced her then it becomes an even better part of the plot because your not trying to help/rescue a former teamate but your LI.

you know at the end of the game you see all the reaper/collector ships? I think they will screw up again and the Normandy may or may not be destroyed again and the crew will split up again like in the beginning in ME1.  

[PauloT-Soni]

I said "again" too much. I'm sorry

[turian councilor Knockout]

So your'e saying that Shepard will die again, i hope not.

[MisterJB]

Hudson has already confirmed that the Normandy will not be destroyed at the beginning of ME3.
Have you guys considered that the reason the squadmates are not on the trial is because Shepard doesn't need someone to hold his hand while there is a war approaching and his squadmates can be more useful elsewhere?

[Raiil]

MisterJB wrote...

To justify Miranda not being with Shepard, we have the "Miranda is trying to take down Cerberus" plot. There is no need for her to be in danger and it makes absolutely no sense for Miranda to require Shepard's help. She is perfectly capable of taking care of both herself and Oriana.

I wouldn't go that far. Not that Miranda's not capable or strong, but she's one woman and someone very aware of her own limitations. I don't doubt that her desire to protect Oriana would send her willingly into danger, but a dead Miranda is a loss of resources, at the bottom line, and she knows that. I can't see her catapulting herself into a sticky situation alone if she can possibly have back up.

[turian councilor Knockout]

MisterJB wrote...

Hudson has already confirmed that the Normandy will not be destroyed at the beginning of ME3.
Have you guys considered that the reason the squadmates are not on the trial is because Shepard doesn't need someone to hold his hand while there is a war approaching and his squadmates can be more useful elsewhere?

Yeah, the companions can be useful elsewhere but the problem is that Shepard could too and instead he is in trial for something that needed to be done even if no one agreed with him, he could already have begun recruiting allies where it not for the trial.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Now I am jacked about ME 3 and I will save Miri

YEAH!!!! Same Here!!!!

[MisterJB]

Valentia X wrote...
 I don't doubt that her desire to protect Oriana would send her willingly into danger, but a dead Miranda is a loss of resources, at the bottom line, and she knows that. I can't see her catapulting herself into a sticky situation alone if she can possibly have back up.

Handling Oriana's safety is an extremely personal matter and she would avoid involving anyone but Shepard (LI) in it. The thing is, Shepard is busy and we would have to define just what is a "sticky "situation for Miranda, something that would actually force her to ask for help.

Anyway, I like to believe that Miranda handled Oriana's relocation off-screen as soon as she was out of the relay so, I don't expect her to play a direct role in Miranda's character arc in ME3.

[naledgeborn]

Valentia X wrote...

I wouldn't go that far. Not that Miranda's not capable or strong, but she's one woman and someone very aware of her own limitations. I don't doubt that her desire to protect Oriana would send her willingly into danger, but a dead Miranda is a loss of resources, at the bottom line, and she knows that. I can't see her catapulting herself into a sticky situation alone if she can possibly have back up.

She doesn't necessarily need to "catapult" herself into danger. It's very much in character for Miranda to get "captured" by Cerberus on purpose. Bonus points to the writers if Shepard's in on the plan. Using her as bait to catch Shepard sounds like Cerberus. And if she went looking for Oriana I'm sure she's smart enough to know when a trap's layed for her. So instead of Cerberus using Miranda/Oriana as bait, Shepard and Miranda could very well counter it to their advantage. Preferably taking TIM out in the process.

[MisterJB]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
Yeah, the companions can be useful elsewhere but the problem is that Shepard could too and instead he is in trial for something that needed to be done even if no one agreed with him, he could already have begun recruiting allies where it not for the trial.

Your point being? That because Shepard is on trial, everyone should be on Earth doing nothing with a war coming?

[turian councilor Knockout]

MisterJB wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
Yeah, the companions can be useful elsewhere but the problem is that Shepard could too and instead he is in trial for something that needed to be done even if no one agreed with him, he could already have begun recruiting allies where it not for the trial.

Your point being? That because Shepard is on trial, everyone should be on Earth doing nothing with a war coming?

My point being that Shepard could already have left Earth rather than being there when the reaper attacks to gather help to reclaiming Earth and instead he waste his time in trial.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 14 mai 2011 - 12:00 .

[MisterJB]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
My point being that Shepard could already have left Earth to gather help to reclaiming Earth and instead he waste his time in trial.

He doesn't have a choice. But what does that have to do with the squadmates?

[turian councilor Knockout]

MisterJB wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
My point being that Shepard could already have left Earth to gather help to reclaiming Earth and instead he waste his time in trial.

He doesn't have a choice. But what does that have to do with the squadmates?

The last thing you wrote in a earlier post was that you wondering if anyone have considered that the squadmates could be more useful elsewhere and my point is that Shepard actually could too.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 14 mai 2011 - 12:10 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

If Miri is captured, thene theres nothing to stop that. She'll need our help. You can't abandon her if she was captured and unable to protact herself,

Come on, Miri would do the same if we were in that position. That's LOVE for you.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 mai 2011 - 12:06 .

[MisterJB]

I didn't say we shouldn't help Miranda. I said it's nonsensical for her to be captured and be unable to escape without Shepard's assistance.
The only way it's acceptable is if she let herself be captured on purpose for one reason or another

Modifié par MisterJB, 14 mai 2011 - 12:09 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

She was you XO in ME2 so she'll be back in ME3 but I hope I can fire her or reassign her to another part of the ship and choose another XO I feel like she was forced on to the team even though I understand why TIM picked her and wouldn't allow me to pick my own she existed to keep an eye on Cerberus's investment.


EDIT: If Miranda is captured I'll leave her I'll just tell so and so I'll go get her then don't hopefully if that occurs and I just procrastinate they party who asked me to go get her will email me and say they found her body and or they want me to go get her body.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 14 mai 2011 - 12:10 .

[James2912]

DDCP wrote...

Of course nothing is confirmed, but I do hope myself that she is coming back as a playable squad member.  I've been trying to read the many articles and scuttlebutt to gather any clues on what might become of her.

I've come up with this so far as my "guess"...what do you folks think?

I think that while Casey Hudson said they're scaling back the amount of squadmates(http://gamingeverything.com/?p=4222) I do believe there might be that kind of option where there are "x" amount of recruitable squadmates but you can only take "y" amount with you on board, and these choices of who you take, etc. will be a big element starting off early.

For Miranda, she will be either with you if you turned on Cerberus (cause she quit ) This would nice and a good follow thru for gamers who chose this path in ME2 (simple reaping the benefits of ones' choice).

OR

If you helped Cerberus and thus are not fighting them in ME3, she'll be after you, however I'm thinking she'll be the "hesitant assassin" going after you and will perhaps have words, etc. with Shepard then part ways after a brief encounter.  If Shepard romanced her in ME2, perhaps that'll change things up...not sure myself.

I'm kinda rambling now!  Haha, sorry...I just have so many questions for ME3 (in a good way!) and thought it might be good to bring this up here.

PS--I know how strict forums can be re-posting a thread if there is already one up of the same topic, but some of these threads are long that have questions like this, and I don't have time due to work to find the topic and catch up on everything that's been said.  If this exact post/thread exists then in advance, I do apologize! 

Best regards,
Andrew

I support this! And don't worry about creating a new thread, if you would have necrod a thread people would still complain. 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

@ MisterJB

It wouldn't be absurd. If it happens it happens.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 mai 2011 - 12:11 .

[MisterJB]

It's demeaning to her character.

[ExtremeOne]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

She was you XO in ME2 so she'll be back in ME3 but I hope I can fire her or reassign her to another part of the ship and choose another XO I feel like she was forced on to the team even though I understand why TIM picked her and wouldn't allow me to pick my own she existed to keep an eye on Cerberus's investment.

  



If Bioware forces Ashley on Me as a XO I want to reassign her as well 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

It's demeaning to her character.

-___-

[turian councilor Knockout]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

She was you XO in ME2 so she'll be back in ME3 but I hope I can fire her or reassign her to another part of the ship and choose another XO I feel like she was forced on to the team even though I understand why TIM picked her and wouldn't allow me to pick my own she existed to keep an eye on Cerberus's investment.

Personally i think all or atleast most of the LI's will be squadmates and the rest cameos.

[turian councilor Knockout]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

She was you XO in ME2 so she'll be back in ME3 but I hope I can fire her or reassign her to another part of the ship and choose another XO I feel like she was forced on to the team even though I understand why TIM picked her and wouldn't allow me to pick my own she existed to keep an eye on Cerberus's investment.

  



If Bioware forces Ashley on Me as a XO I want to reassign her as well 

Kaidan or Ashley as spectres are bad enough, they don't really deserves that rank and xo will be even worse they will be overriding your orders at the councils behest.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 14 mai 2011 - 12:15 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

@ MisterJB

If that does happen, you'll do it without a fuss and just save her, correct? Hmmm?   

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 14 mai 2011 - 12:15 .

[MisterJB]

No, I'll leave my favorite character to fend for herself.
Of course I'll save her but I won't be happy about.