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Bioware, where is my ME2 team? I don't want to be stuck with the ME1 team.


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Ieldra

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So far, all confirmed ME3 team members were also part of the ME1 team. I can't express th level of my disappointment in that. I am a great fan of specifically those team members of the ME2 team who were not in ME1. Where are they? I would very much dislike to play ME3 mostly with the ME1 team, and I would be *extremely* disappointed if all members of ME3's permanent "core squad" were those of ME1.

So, where are they? "Somewhere in ME3", yeah, but what about being a team member again? Also some of my Shepards sympathize with the goals if not the methods of Cerberus. I want those team members back who might support me in that. Where are they?

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Yes. I want Miranda, Jacob, Mordin, Jack, Legion, Thane, and Grunt back. Why aren't they on my team?

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Speculative configuration, let me know if this would be acceptable:

Permanent Squadmates
-VS (Ashley/Kaidan)
-James Vega (assume killed off at some point)
-Liara (Feron takes over SB)
-Garrus (ME1 and 2)
-Tali (ME1 and 2)
-Grunt (ME2, replaces Vega as team tank)
-Jack or Miranda (ME2, based on player choice)
-Thane (ME2)
-1 new squadmate
-Legion (ME2)

Temporary Squadmates (i.e. story arcs)
-Anderson (for opening levels)
-Wrex (krogan arc)
-Jacob (ME2, Cerberus arc)
-Samara/Morinth (ME2, Asari arc)
-Zaeed (ME2, gathering mercs)
-Kasumi (ME2, stealing Prothean tech)

Mordin, Chakwas, and Joker as non-squaddies that help and accompany you throughout the game. All are on the Normandy.

How's this?

Modifié par Warlock Adam, 13 mai 2011 - 05:45 .


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InvaderErl

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I think Jack, Miranda and Grunt will be confirmed as squadmates.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 13 mai 2011 - 06:02 .


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Warlock Adam wrote...

Speculative configuration, let me know if this would be acceptable:

Permanent Squadmates
-VS (Ashley/Kaidan)
-James Vega (assume killed off at some point)
-Liara (Feron takes over SB)
-Garrus (ME1 and 2)
-Tali (ME1 and 2)
-Grunt (ME2, replaces Vega as team tank)
-Jack or Miranda (ME2, based on player choice)
-Thane (ME2)
-1 new squadmate
-Legion (ME2)

Temporary Squadmates (i.e. story arcs)
-Anderson (for opening levels)
-Wrex (krogan arc)
-Jacob (ME2, Cerberus arc)
-Samara/Morinth (ME2, Asari arc)
-Zaeed (ME2, gathering mercs)
-Kasumi (ME2, stealing Prothean tech)

Mordin, Chakwas, and Joker as non-squaddies that help and accompany you throughout the game. All are on the Normandy.

How's this?


Fine with it. Not going to lie I'd like Wrex for the entire game, but I doubt that will happen. Also, I hope to God they don't kill off Anderson in the opening level. But I could see that happening.

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In a screenshot he's wearing military gear with some gunships flying off the background indicating **** has already hit the fan so I doubt he'll be killed off in the opening.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 13 mai 2011 - 06:06 .


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Ieldra

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Warlock Adam wrote...

Speculative configuration, let me know if this would be acceptable:

Permanent Squadmates
-VS (Ashley/Kaidan)
-James Vega (assume killed off at some point)
-Liara (Feron takes over SB)
-Garrus (ME1 and 2)
-Tali (ME1 and 2)
-Grunt (ME2, replaces Vega as team tank)
-Jack or Miranda (ME2, based on player choice)
-Thane (ME2)
-1 new squadmate
-Legion (ME2)

Temporary Squadmates (i.e. story arcs)
-Anderson (for opening levels)
-Wrex (krogan arc)
-Jacob (ME2, Cerberus arc)
-Samara/Morinth (ME2, Asari arc)
-Zaeed (ME2, gathering mercs)
-Kasumi (ME2, stealing Prothean tech)

Mordin, Chakwas, and Joker as non-squaddies that help and accompany you throughout the game. All are on the Normandy.

How's this?

Acceptable. I'd prefer Jacob instead of Grunt, but I guess we'll get our token krogan. I'd compromise ;)

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Think of it this way: Grunt will be the Urdnot representative on the team, especially considering Shepard is his battlemaster. Jacob will help you take down the Illusive Man, and you can either A) Side with Jack, dismantle Cerberus, and Jacob goes to fight on the front lines or B) Side with Miranda, who takes over Cerberus to help you and takes Jacob as her 2nd in command. If you romanced Jacob you get a nice cutscene, whereas if you're just his bud he promises to meet you on the Citadel after the whole thing is over.

Compromise is acceptable :)

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If I can get Jack, Grunt, and Legion back for at least a mission, I will be a happy Cheez.

Damn, you, Liara, quit hogging a team slot!

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I have much love for the ME1 squad, but I will be dissapointed if none of the ME2 squad returns. All were pretty decent characters ('cept Jacob and Grunt...too boring, but I s'pose we need a token krogan) and Thane, Samara, Jack and Legion paticularly stood out to me.

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The ME2 characters were by far the weakest. The only worthy of mention are Mordin and Thane, barring the ones who were in ME1 of course.

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I imagine that at least there will be another pair of returning characters, and so they'll necessairly to be "ME2 only" dudes, considered that everyone who was in since ME1 is already confirmed. My moneys are on Miranda and Grunt because of the plot armor of Ms Lawson and the fact that, being Wrex busy elsewhere, if we're going to get a krogan in the team he'll necessairly be him.

This, counting already Jack too as returning, she's still not 100% confirmed, but everything is pointing in that direction.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 13 mai 2011 - 06:36 .


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Warlock Adam wrote...

Speculative configuration, let me know if this would be acceptable:

Permanent Squadmates
-VS (Ashley/Kaidan)
-James Vega (assume killed off at some point)
-Liara (Feron takes over SB)
-Garrus (ME1 and 2)
-Tali (ME1 and 2)
-Grunt (ME2, replaces Vega as team tank)
-Jack or Miranda (ME2, based on player choice)
-Thane (ME2)
-1 new squadmate
-Legion (ME2)

Temporary Squadmates (i.e. story arcs)
-Anderson (for opening levels)
-Wrex (krogan arc)
-Jacob (ME2, Cerberus arc)
-Samara/Morinth (ME2, Asari arc)
-Zaeed (ME2, gathering mercs)
-Kasumi (ME2, stealing Prothean tech)

Mordin, Chakwas, and Joker as non-squaddies that help and accompany you throughout the game. All are on the Normandy.

How's this?

Well, for a start Thane is dying, so I doubt we'll see too much of him, I'll put him down as a temporary squadmate, with him either staying on Kahje or dying at the end of his mission. I personally feel that the permanent squad is too large, I'd take out, well, Thane, and possibly either Miranda or Jack as permanent squadmates, 8 or 9 seems about the right number. Anyway, my version:

Permanent Squadmates:
Virmire Survivor (present at trial, squadmate in the first mission)
James Vega (joins you after the first mission)
Liara (present at trial but not squadmate in first mission, with you after that. Runs some SB operations from the Normandy, Feron takes care of the ship)
Garrus (joins early on, doesnt really have much to do)
Tali (same as Garrus)
Grunt (joins when you go to Tuchanka, although not a compulsory squadmate in that story arc)
Miranda (same as Grunt, but with Cerberus story arc instead. Joins fairly late on)
A new female character, possibly Gillian Grayson but I doubt it
Legion (joins after Rannoch mission)

Temporary Squadmates (LotSB-esque, over one 1 to 1.5 hr story arc):
Captain Anderson (squadmate in first mission, possibly the red-shirt?)
Wrex (kinda Krogan president, temp squadmate in krogan arc)
Jacob (now with Alliance, working with you in Palaven arc maybe?)
Jack (asks if she can join you in Cerberus arc, possibly dies)
Samara (if character is paragon, and saved her over Morinth and in SM, Asari arc)
Morinth (if character is renegade, and saved her over Samara, Asari arc)
Thane (Drell/Hanar arc, maybe dies afterwards?)

Cameos
:
Zaeed (gives you a mission to unite merc gangs, helps you during but isnt a squadmate)
Kasumi (gives you a mission to steal something, again helps you but isnt a squaddie)
Samara (if renegade but chose her over Morinth)
Morinth (if paragon but chose her over Samara)
Mordin (not cameo as such, the Normandy's in house scientist, with as much - if not more - dialogue on ship than other squadmates, to make up for not being a squadmate. Joins you in a non-squadmate role in salarian arc)

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I definitely would like to have Legion, Mordin and Miranda back to my full-time squad. But I trust BioWare to do what's best for the story instead of bringing people back just to appease the fanbase.

edit: y u no liek to write rite?

Modifié par DarkLord_PT, 13 mai 2011 - 06:45 .


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Warlock Adam wrote...

Think of it this way: Grunt will be the Urdnot representative on the team, especially considering Shepard is his battlemaster. Jacob will help you take down the Illusive Man, and you can either A) Side with Jack, dismantle Cerberus, and Jacob goes to fight on the front lines or B) Side with Miranda, who takes over Cerberus to help you and takes Jacob as her 2nd in command. If you romanced Jacob you get a nice cutscene, whereas if you're just his bud he promises to meet you on the Citadel after the whole thing is over.

Compromise is acceptable :)

Actually, that's quite a good idea, choosing between destroying Cerberus (maybe as a result Miranda dies) and re-establishing it as a better organisation (maybe as a result Jack dies). And if you destroy Cerberus, then the Alliance's forces become larger as remaining Cerberus employees join the Alliance, and if you save it, you have another, all be it smaller, army to work with.

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I want Miranda, Legion, Thane and Grunt back on the squad, but like DarkLord_PT I trust BioWare to do what's best for the story.

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Is it wrong that I like both Miranda and Jack? Why can't they both serve on the Shepard's crew? If any permanent squad members on the team are interchangeable it should be Miranda and Jacob as they were both Cerberus. Much like the Ashley/Kaidan choice in ME1 with out the inevitable Virmire decision.

That way the non-squad member (in my case would be Jacob) would do his lone wolf thing to keep Cerberus off of Shepard's back. And Jacob was an N class Alliance operative before defecting to Cerberus. Him being an Alliance N7 tasked with taking Cerberus down is a strong possibility in ME3. Hell, he might have been infiltrating Cerberus from the beginning as a deep cover op for all we know.

Just my $0.02

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I am also frustrated by the lack of confirmation for the ME2 squad mates as permanent ones.

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Oh, I like both Miranda and Jack as well. It's just that with the limited amount of slots left for squadmates (especially with Casey Hudson stating that the number will be smaller in 3 than it was in 2) if I have to pick and choose favorites to this extent, Miranda shows up on my list and Jack doesn't.

Both of them would make sense as permanent squadmates, though.

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I agree with OP that current lineup is overly skewed towards original ME1 characters.
I want miranda back, i'd love to have Grunt, legion and Mordin back too.

The theory that seems workable to me is having more virmire survivor like splits where you have to choose who to side with and then you smooth over those differences later in game if you want and have the other one as a temporary squadmate if you do.
Tali/Legion -
Miranda/Jack -
Grunt/Mordin -

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Ieldra2 wrote...

So far, all confirmed ME3 team members were also part of the ME1 team. I can't express th level of my disappointment in that. I am a great fan of specifically those team members of the ME2 team who were not in ME1. Where are they? I would very much dislike to play ME3 mostly with the ME1 team, and I would be *extremely* disappointed if all members of ME3's permanent "core squad" were those of ME1.

So, where are they? "Somewhere in ME3", yeah, but what about being a team member again? Also some of my Shepards sympathize with the goals if not the methods of Cerberus. I want those team members back who might support me in that. Where are they?



I feel for ya.  That's pretty much how I felt all through ME2 about my ME1 team.  :(  At least you have a much better chance of them getting significant screen time than I did.

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 Here's my list of permanent squad members. This is NOT what I want but what I think will end up happening.

Ashley or Kaidan (depends on ME1)
Garrus
Jack
Jacob or Miranda (depends on ME3)
James
Liara
Tali
Thane

I really wish Legion, Mordin, and Grunt could fit in there. Maybe we can replace James for Grunt but I doubt it. If it were up to me I'd also replace Garrus with Legion because he's been around for 2 games and he needs to be a damn SpecTRe already. And I'd replace Tali with Mordin because she's not my favorite, she's been around since ME1,  and she should be helping the Quarians. Also Mordin is awesome.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 13 mai 2011 - 07:22 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

So far, all confirmed ME3 team members were also part of the ME1 team. I can't express th level of my disappointment in that. I am a great fan of specifically those team members of the ME2 team who were not in ME1. Where are they? I would very much dislike to play ME3 mostly with the ME1 team, and I would be *extremely* disappointed if all members of ME3's permanent "core squad" were those of ME1.

So, where are they? "Somewhere in ME3", yeah, but what about being a team member again? Also some of my Shepards sympathize with the goals if not the methods of Cerberus. I want those team members back who might support me in that. Where are they?



Finally somebody cares about this. If I could I would hug you. I totaly agree. They should reconsider giving us a small squad. We need diversity and more options to pick from. I know ME3 will be the best game I am certain or I was before the latest news. I am glad they are bringing all weapons from ME2 to ME3. They should do it with squad memebers also. Bioware you have something special. You gave us import so it has meaning to play ME1 and ME2. Please dont destroy ME3 by shorting our squad. If there is someone like me, please say something and be heard.

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Warlock Adam wrote...

Speculative configuration, let me know if this would be acceptable:

Permanent Squadmates
-VS (Ashley/Kaidan)
-James Vega (assume killed off at some point)
-Liara (Feron takes over SB)
-Garrus (ME1 and 2)
-Tali (ME1 and 2)
-Grunt (ME2, replaces Vega as team tank)
-Jack or Miranda (ME2, based on player choice)
-Thane (ME2)
-1 new squadmate
-Legion (ME2)

Temporary Squadmates (i.e. story arcs)
-Anderson (for opening levels)
-Wrex (krogan arc)
-Jacob (ME2, Cerberus arc)
-Samara/Morinth (ME2, Asari arc)
-Zaeed (ME2, gathering mercs)
-Kasumi (ME2, stealing Prothean tech)

Mordin, Chakwas, and Joker as non-squaddies that help and accompany you throughout the game. All are on the Normandy.

How's this?


I hate this temporary squadmate idea... I should be able to choose my squad, basing my choice on my class, my skills and the enemies in front of me, instead of being forced to have in my team a (for example) second soldier or an unuseful biotic Posted Image

and there is too much ''permanent squadmates''. BioWare said they wanted the squad to be much smaller than ME2's squad.

My speculation is :

Kaidan/Ashley
Liara
Tali
Garrus
''James Vega''
[new Krogan or Yahg]
Jacob/Miranda (will depend of who survived on Virmire. if Kaidan did, Miranda will join the squad and vice versa)
Jack
[New Character] - DLC

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One more thing to consider: Wrex and all but two of the ME2 characters could be dead when you start ME3. Do you really want Urdnot Wreav following you around as a permanent squadmate during the game? They HAVE to include some ME1 squaddies as permanent, because some people will be playing with 4 surviving characters.

When applying this to my above config, VS, Liara, James, and 1 new sqauddie would be perms. And assuming the SM survivors are Zaeed and Kasumi, that means two temp squadmates, plus Anderson, and little else. Is that enough people to run a game?

Apply the same idea to your lists and see what you get.