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[wright1978]

Haristo wrote:

"Jacob/Miranda (will depend of who survived on Virmire. if Kaidan did, Miranda will join the squad and vice versa)"

That's not going to happen.  Either could be dead or could be love interests.

[Ieldra]

DarkLord_PT wrote...
I definitely would like to have Legion, Mordin and Miranda back to my full-time squad. But I trust BioWare to do what's best for the story instead of bringing people back just to appease the fanbase.

Err.....Garrus? Story impact so far: 0. And that in two games. If what you said were true then I wouldn't worry about Miranda. And you needn't worry about Legion and Mordin either. The problem is: story impact and team member status don't necessarily go together, and they do take things like squad ability balance, squad species balance and LI status into account.  

[Ieldra]

Warlock Adam wrote...
One more thing to consider: Wrex and all but two of the ME2 characters could be dead when you start ME3. Do you really want Urdnot Wreav following you around as a permanent squadmate during the game? They HAVE to include some ME1 squaddies as permanent, because some people will be playing with 4 surviving characters.

When applying this to my above config, VS, Liara, James, and 1 new sqauddie would be perms. And assuming the SM survivors are Zaeed and Kasumi, that means two temp squadmates, plus Anderson, and little else. Is that enough people to run a game?

Apply the same idea to your lists and see what you get.

Hey, I like Kaidan and Ashley too and wouldn't want to miss out on them. Never did I say didn't want any ME1 team members. But so far it looks as if the core squad would consist only or mostly of ME1 team members, and I don't like that.

CH said the core squad will be smaller than in ME2. That's all good, but we now have four (Ashley/Kaidan count as one) ME1 team members and Mr. Vega confirmed. I'm not quite sure who will be permanent but people seem to believe it's not just Ashley/Kaidan, Vega and Liara but also Garrus and Tali. Now if we have a total core squad of 10, that would be OK, enough slots would be left for the more important ME2 team members. But what if we have only eight?

What I really fear for is interaction opportunities with my favorites from ME2, primarily MIranda of course, but also Legion. I've already resigned myself to having Mordin as a mere cameo, another favorite of mine. And Jacob, the LI of my Renegade femShep - don't laugh, if you can overlook the prize line, he's a good LI. Apart from Kaidan and Ashley, all my favorites are from the ME2 only team.

Edit:
I wouldn't mind alternative permanent team members, such as you get either Jack or Miranda but not both. The things is, I don't believe Bioware will do that since they don't want players to miss out on content.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 13 mai 2011 - 08:08 .

[InvaderErl]

I think its still pretty early to freak out. I mean I remember people were worrying whether or not Garrus was even going to be in ME2 for example and that turned out alright. There's still plenty of time for more announcements and such.

And I personally think we're in for a 9 man squad. More than ME1's 6 but less than ME2's dirty dozen.

[Ieldra]

InvaderErl wrote...
I think its still pretty early to freak out. I mean I remember people were worrying whether or not Garrus was even going to be in ME2 for example and that turned out alright. There's still plenty of time for more announcements and such.

I can only say this:

I would consider it extremely unfair if those who romanced Ashley, Kaidan or Liara get to take their LIs through a whole second game, those who romanced Garrus or Tali through can take them through a whole *third* game (don't ask for my uncensored opinion about that) and those who romanced Miranda, Jack, Thane or Jacob get....one mission or suchlike.

[Vertigo_1]

Casey just tweeted this:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/69149859021725696

"Is it true that all permanent squad members are "ME1 squad minus Wrex plus Vega", i.e. 5 people? Thanks.

"Not exactly. More surprises coming on squad members in #ME3"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 13 mai 2011 - 09:29 .

[darknoon5]

Ieldra2 wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...
I definitely would like to have Legion, Mordin and Miranda back to my full-time squad. But I trust BioWare to do what's best for the story instead of bringing people back just to appease the fanbase.

Err.....Garrus? Story impact so far: 0. And that in two games. If what you said were true then I wouldn't worry about Miranda. And you needn't worry about Legion and Mordin either. The problem is: story impact and team member status don't necessarily go together, and they do take things like squad ability balance, squad species balance and LI status into account.  

I dunno. Characters don't need to have a big impact on the events of the story to be important to the story. A good example is Hermoine and Ron in Harry Potter.

[naledgeborn]

Ieldra2 wrote...
I can only say this:

I would consider it extremely unfair if those who romanced Ashley, Kaidan or Liara get to take their LIs through a whole second game, those who romanced Garrus or Tali through can take them through a whole *third* game (don't ask for my uncensored opinion about that) and those who romanced Miranda, Jack, Thane or Jacob get....one mission or suchlike.

This X 1,000,000,000,000

[ExtremeOne]

well considering the fact that Miranda is in 3 and she is a LI I can bet she will be a squad mate . Grunt is almost a lock since he is the only Krogan that can be on the squad plus Shepard is his battle Master. Bioware needs to fix this whole ME 3 is slanted towards ME 1 fans

[InvaderErl]

I think considering the fact that they're apparently redesigning Jack we can make an educated guess that she's a squadmate as well.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 13 mai 2011 - 09:33 .

[darknoon5]

ExtremeOne wrote...

well considering the fact that Miranda is in 3 and she is a LI I can bet she will be a squad mate . Grunt is almost a lock since he is the only Krogan that can be on the squad plus Shepard is his battle Master. Bioware needs to fix this whole ME 3 is slanted towards ME 1 fans

I dunno, I think you make a mistake in seperating the fans into "ME1 fans" and "ME2" fans. I like both games and both squads, and I'm sure many others do as well. A more appropriate statement would be "ME3's squad is more slanted towards people who preffered the ME1 squad."

I personally think people should wait for the whole squadmate list to be revealed before ragequitting. I've been really lucky with the ME series to have my favourite characters Wrex, Garrus, Liara, Tali and Kaidan all confirmed as squadmates, and Legion confirmed to return straight off. In other game series, some by bioware, my favourite characters haven't received such treatment. One example is Jolee Bindo in KOTOR 2  (not bioware, I know.)

But I still liked Kotor 2. The game was good, and I'm sure Mass Effect 3 will be great. It's unfortunate if your character receives less screen time then others, but all things considered, all the characters seem to be getting a decent deal from what I can read, better then many of the characters in Kotor 2 and Dragon age 2, for example.

The game should be about more then the characters, anyway. It is upsetting if your favourite character is sidelined, but that shouldn't ruin the experience. Even though me and Garrus did get to be bros and stuff in ME2, he had the least normandy dialog of any of the squadmates. Was this frustrating? Slightly. Did it ruin the game? No.

On that note, If I see one more "I won't buy ME3 if x isn't in a squadmate" post...

InvaderErl wrote...

I think considering the fact that
they're apparently redesigning Jack we can make an educated guess that
she's a squadmate as well.

I think they said every character is getting a re-design somewhere, actually, but the fact they've focused on Garrus and Jack does indicate they will be squadmates, which is obviously reinforced by the fact Garrus is a confirmed squadmate.

Modifié par darknoon5, 13 mai 2011 - 09:41 .

[ToGVita]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I can only say this:

I would consider it extremely unfair if those who romanced Ashley, Kaidan or Liara get to take their LIs through a whole second game, those who romanced Garrus or Tali through can take them through a whole *third* game (don't ask for my uncensored opinion about that) and those who romanced Miranda, Jack, Thane or Jacob get....one mission or suchlike.

I agree it's not fair, but from all I've read I think it's going to happen.   Not with Miranda, but likely with Thane, probably with Jack, and perhaps with Jacob.   If it's any consolation, I don't think the encounter/missions will be as crappy as they were for Ashley, Kaidan and Liara in ME2. 

I think we'll hear positive news about Miranda at E3.

[InvaderErl]

darknoon5 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

I think considering the fact that
they're apparently redesigning Jack we can make an educated guess that
she's a squadmate as well.

I think they said every character is getting a re-design somewhere, actually, but the fact they've focused on Garrus and Jack does indicate they will be squadmates, which is obviously reinforced by the fact Garrus is a confirmed squadmate.

That's my line of thinking as well.

[ExtremeOne]

darknoon5 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

well considering the fact that Miranda is in 3 and she is a LI I can bet she will be a squad mate . Grunt is almost a lock since he is the only Krogan that can be on the squad plus Shepard is his battle Master. Bioware needs to fix this whole ME 3 is slanted towards ME 1 fans

I dunno, I think you make a mistake in seperating the fans into "ME1 fans" and "ME2" fans. I like both games and both squads, and I'm sure many others do as well. A more appropriate statement would be "ME3's squad is more slanted towards people who preffered the ME1 squad."

I personally think people should wait for the whole squadmate list to be revealed before ragequitting. I've been really lucky with the ME series to have my favourite characters Wrex, Garrus, Liara, Tali and Kaidan all confirmed as squadmates, and Legion confirmed to return straight off. In other game series, some by bioware, my favourite characters haven't received such treatment. One example is Jolee Bindo in KOTOR 2  (not bioware, I know.)

But I still liked Kotor 2. The game was good, and I'm sure Mass Effect 3 will be great. It's unfortunate if your character receives less screen time then others, but all things considered, all the characters seem to be getting a decent deal from what I can read, better then many of the characters in Kotor 2 and Dragon age 2, for example.

The game should be about more then the characters, anyway. It is upsetting if your favourite character is sidelined, but that shouldn't ruin the experience. Even though me and Garrus did get to be bros and stuff in ME2, he had the least normandy dialog of any of the squadmates. Was this frustrating? Slightly. Did it ruin the game? No.

On that note, If I see one more "I won't buy ME3 if x isn't in a squadmate" post...

InvaderErl wrote...

I think considering the fact that
they're apparently redesigning Jack we can make an educated guess that
she's a squadmate as well.

I think they said every character is getting a re-design somewhere, actually, but the fact they've focused on Garrus and Jack does indicate they will be squadmates, which is obviously reinforced by the fact Garrus is a confirmed squadmate.

   



I mean if those 2 had any impact on the story I could see why they are on the squad again.  Someone needs to call it for what it is and thats ME 1 fans getting fan service again . It happened in 2 and now again in 3 and its garbage .  why should I even try to save as many as I can from the SM in 2 when I am faced with oh temp squad mates in 3 or npc versions of these characters from 2. There is no reason for garrus and tali to be on the squad . in 3 . The only bright side is I could kill them both off in the SM and have 2 open spots on the squad in 3 . But why should I have to do that . Just to get more of the ME 2 squad on the squad in 3 .  Its bull sh*t and I agree with the op . 

[Vez04]

Already beeing confirmed that all VA's will be back in ME3 so that means the same for fan characters aswell. k thx bai.

[Snowship]

I see being the SB as a full-time job. So BIOware either shouldn't have made Liara the SB or have her as a squaddie for only a couple of missions (she can always contact you to give you intel).

Permanent choice Squad members:
VS (Kaiden/Ashley)
Garrus
James Vega
Grunt
Jack

Temporary Companions
Legion (from start until he has to return to the Geth)
Tali (from start, again until she has to return to the Migrant fleet)
Miranda/Jacob (for Cerberus related missions only)
Samara (Asari related missions only)
Liara (I'm putting her here cause she Shouldn't be a full-time companion)


Non usable companions
Mordin
Thane
Morinth
Wrex
DLC (Zaeed/Kasumi)

[KainrycKarr]

I don't get why people are worried about Miranda. She's in. If Tali got in, you KNOW Miranda got in, they were easily the top two favs.

I'm still saying the LI's are all coming back full-time, and nothing has damaged that possibility, in fact has only reinforced it.

[KainrycKarr]

Snowship wrote...

I see being the SB as a full-time job. So BIOware either shouldn't have made Liara the SB or have her as a squaddie for only a couple of missions (she can always contact you to give you intel).

Permanent choice Squad members:
VS (Kaiden/Ashley)
Garrus
James Vega
Grunt
Jack

Temporary Companions
Legion (from start until he has to return to the Geth)
Tali (from start, again until she has to return to the Migrant fleet)
Miranda/Jacob (for Cerberus related missions only)
Samara (Asari related missions only)
Liara (I'm putting her here cause she Shouldn't be a full-time companion)


Non usable companions
Mordin
Thane
Morinth
Wrex
DLC (Zaeed/Kasumi)

A little pointless since Tali and Liara are already confirmed full-timers.

[Silrian]

Snowship wrote...

I see being the SB as a full-time job. So BIOware either shouldn't have made Liara the SB or have her as a squaddie for only a couple of missions (she can always contact you to give you intel).

Permanent choice Squad members:
VS (Kaiden/Ashley)
Garrus
James Vega
Grunt
Jack

Temporary Companions
Legion (from start until he has to return to the Geth)
Tali (from start, again until she has to return to the Migrant fleet)
Miranda/Jacob (for Cerberus related missions only)
Samara (Asari related missions only)
Liara (I'm putting her here cause she Shouldn't be a full-time companion)


Non usable companions
Mordin
Thane
Morinth
Wrex
DLC (Zaeed/Kasumi)

Okay... 1) what is your reasoning behind Liara not beeing a permanent squadmate, and do you by 'not permanent' mean like almost all companions in ME2 were in different measures not permanent? 2) I don't agree concerning Miranda and Jacob. I think at least Miranda should have the possibility of being a permanent squadmate, because she's out of a job after the suicide run (at least if you take her to the larva). Jacob I don't know. I don't dislike him but MAN is he an uninteresting character.3) I think Grunt should be optionably permanent, because he'd have reasons to return to (Wrex and) clan Urdnot. The choice to let him go could be present at the beginning of the game. 4) I think point 3 should apply to Tali as well and both should have an impact on the unfolding story. 5) All your  other choices are, now that I ponder it, surprisingly logical storywise, as long as ME2 deaths are considered final.

Modifié par Silrian, 13 mai 2011 - 10:41 .

[KainrycKarr]

Silrian wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Snowship wrote...

I see being the SB as a full-time job. So BIOware either shouldn't have made Liara the SB or have her as a squaddie for only a couple of missions (she can always contact you to give you intel).

Permanent choice Squad members:
VS (Kaiden/Ashley)
Garrus
James Vega
Grunt
Jack

Temporary Companions
Legion (from start until he has to return to the Geth)
Tali (from start, again until she has to return to the Migrant fleet)
Miranda/Jacob (for Cerberus related missions only)
Samara (Asari related missions only)
Liara (I'm putting her here cause she Shouldn't be a full-time companion)


Non usable companions
Mordin
Thane
Morinth
Wrex
DLC (Zaeed/Kasumi)

A little pointless since Tali and Liara are already confirmed full-timers.

Okay... 1) what is your reasoning behind Liara not beeing a permanent squadmate, and do you by 'not permanent' mean like almost all companions in ME2 were in different measures not permanent? 2) I love how you completely ignore Zaeed. 3) I think Grunt should be optionably permanent, because he'd have reasons to return to (Wrex and) clan Urdnot. The choice to let him go could be present at the beginning of the game. 4) I think point 3 should apply to Tali as well and both should have an impact on the unfolding story. 5) All your  other choices are, now that I ponder it, surprisingly logical storywise, as long as ME2 deaths are considered final.

I assume you're asking Snowship.

[Silrian]

@KainrycKarr My bad, yes. Edited it, and other things as well. My god that was a horrible post on my part.

[ExtremeOne]

Silrian wrote...

Snowship wrote...

I see being the SB as a full-time job. So BIOware either shouldn't have made Liara the SB or have her as a squaddie for only a couple of missions (she can always contact you to give you intel).

Permanent choice Squad members:
VS (Kaiden/Ashley)
Garrus
James Vega
Grunt
Jack

Temporary Companions
Legion (from start until he has to return to the Geth)
Tali (from start, again until she has to return to the Migrant fleet)
Miranda/Jacob (for Cerberus related missions only)
Samara (Asari related missions only)
Liara (I'm putting her here cause she Shouldn't be a full-time companion)


Non usable companions
Mordin
Thane
Morinth
Wrex
DLC (Zaeed/Kasumi)

Okay... 1) what is your reasoning behind Liara not beeing a permanent squadmate, and do you by 'not permanent' mean like almost all companions in ME2 were in different measures not permanent? 2) I don't agree concerning Miranda and Jacob. I think at least Miranda should have the possibility of being a permanent squadmate, because she's out of a job after the suicide run (at least if you take her to the larva). Jacob I don't know. I don't dislike him but MAN is he an uninteresting character.3) I think Grunt should be optionably permanent, because he'd have reasons to return to (Wrex and) clan Urdnot. The choice to let him go could be present at the beginning of the game. 4) I think point 3 should apply to Tali as well and both should have an impact on the unfolding story. 5) All your  other choices are, now that I ponder it, surprisingly logical storywise, as long as ME2 deaths are considered final.

    



Grunt will be back because Shepard is Battle Master and plus he is the only Krogan that can be on the squad . Miranda will be back she is a LI and has no place else to go