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Retrogue

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Err... Help? Are any of you guys into digital art? Well, I wasn't. I
used to just sketch stuff and scan it. And then get REALLY pissed off at
how it would look post-scan because it always looks better in person.
So I got a drawing tablet and was dicking around with it today.
Everything I "drew" looked like ass. Or like a two year old did it in MS
Paint. It's very discouraging and I'm wondering why I blew the money on that thing.

So I sketched Eva Amell, my DA:O mage character and I'm
going to try and shade it (and add more detail) with the drawing pad and
Corel Painter. I've always hated shading, even when I'm doing it by
hand. :( I'm more of a line art kind of person, I guess. Any advice from the digital artists who lurk in this forum?

What to do? What to do?

Oh, should I... Tone down her thighs? They're huge and you can totally tell she's probably sporting a bandunkadunk back there.

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Neither of them look right to me. I tried posing like that in front of the mirror, and the first one is more realistic in terms of how your thighs would look if one were to twist like that. Maybe I'm just funny-shaped. Ugh. What should I do about the saddlebags? Keep 'em or lose 'em?

Modifié par Retrogue, 14 mai 2011 - 02:41 .


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wildhaggisis

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Hey I draw and have some experience with digital art.  I use Photoshop though so it's a bit different for me. Anyway it's a nice start. Its defiantly nice that it's not a standing there holding a staff pose andthere's some movement in it. Not that there's anything wrong with standing there holding a staff poses just sometimes more interesting to see others XD
 Don't worry about your drawings looking like a 5 year old in paint with your first attempt with your tablet.  Most peoples look like that and the more you use it the better your drawing will get on it so don't be disheartened.  I will give you some tips later on to how to help you familiarise yourself with it. But first I'm going to concentrate on your drawing. 

Glancing over the drawing I'd say her legs are on the short side. I also think her arms may be too short as well, this will become more obvious once you get the legs the right size basically everything is relative the thing next to it. also her other boob needs putting in.   I would draw her face in 3/4 view its more personal because we can see her expression easier(your choice though). to add depth to your picture I'd actually have her holding the staff at a more diagonal line so it goes behind her body(again your choice).   don't worry you don't have to rub it out and draw parts again as these changes can be done in a digital document :).  even for my traditional work I favour drawing the whole thing digitally because its much easier to make changes.  I'm not going to address her thighs right now because part of the problem might be the length.   i would also suggest either finding photo reference or you can take your own which is usually the best way as it will fit your vision :)

now let's look at the digital side.  I'm going to give you an exercise to do that will help you get used to your tablet.   basically open up a blank document and pick a brush any brush hard round will do.  and draw lines and shapes. by doing this you getting used to the feel of the tablet without making it too challenging for you and this removes a lot of the frustration. drawing straight lines, curved lines and shapes is a key skill in drawing so it will help you with your character drawing too.  Simple but effective. Also take the time to familiarise yourself with the program figure out where the layer palette is which is the brush button. What brushes you like that sort of thing.  You don't need to use every brush available.  I in fact only use 1.  Dont bother with the airbrush, it tends to create too soft edges and for now just use a basic brush to paint with and experiment with jitter, opacity etc. Instead. 

next up setting your page up 

page dimensions are up to you but you want the dpi set to 300 you should scan anything your planning on working digitally at 300dpi at least.  painter is different here to Photoshop.  This might help you though :) http://www.2d-digita...ter-layers.html

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I use lots of layers.  on my current digital painting that I have yet to finish I have 16 layers including one that's hidden which is a black silhouette which I stared the drawing as. some of the layers have been merged.  I'm going to use that as an example of my workflow. I work greyscale then add colour.  I'm still learning the colouring process but I can help you with grey scale. Greyscale is helpful because it allows you to build form and values easier.  Values tell us what we are looking at while colour tells us what to feel. 

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Picture 1:-The background was actually created as I went along not right at the beginning.  Basically I started with a flat middleish grey and worked up on there. I start off with a scribble of the idea that I want to draw.  This scribble in this case has been blocked up into a silhouette for the whole pose.  Silhouettes are a fantastic way to check everything is working.  If it doesn't work in the silhouette chances are it won't read very well.  This is drawn by using blobs rather than line art.  Shape is important here :)

Picture 2:- So I lowered the opacity of my black silhouette so that I can draw the line art before I start drawing the line art. on one layer I block in the hair shapes in a dark grey and on another I block in the cover over her legs. This layer starts at a lower opacity to help with fold placement. The line art is drawn with the aid if my reference and the aid of the blocked out hair layer.  This layer sits above the hair layer but below the cover layer. Once she is drawn I then draw her tattoo onto her face in this case the opacity has been lowered to allow the shadows of the skin when put in place and highlights to shine through

Picture 3: -Once I have a good base to work on I decide to begin painting. I hide the silhouette as this isn't needed anymore. I block in the shadows first then work my way up to highlights. I do these on different layers and i play with the opacity of these layers to get the desired effect (the layer mode isnormal which is the default layer for photoshop). I merge parts that i'm happy with as i go along.  For the colour in the image (the green eye, the blue tattoo and the purplish blue overtone) I use 3 types of layer.  The tattoo is on an overlay layer, the eyes are on a colour mode layer, the purplish blue texture is on a soft light layer.

hope this helps :) if you need any more help feel free to ask and i'll do my best to answer 

Modifié par wildhaggisis, 14 mai 2011 - 03:22 .


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wildhaggisis

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also this magazine has some of its tutorials up online which you may want to take a look at  http://www.imaginefx.com/02287754330326480692/workshops.html its a fantastic magazine.  the 50 uses for a dead dragon uses both photoshop and painter together so you might be able to get some painter tips from that :)