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[St Mael]

I think most don't from what I've been reading, like people thinking that we will have Miranda and Jack but most likely not Jacob or Thane.

Let's just say that I'm very sure that won't be the case. I guess everyone realized by now that the point I'm making is that because all 4 are LIs they won't be treated in an unsimilar way or that some will be favoured over others. And especially we won't have those female LIs returning while their male counterparts won't. Bioware have already stated a while back that they will be treating ALL LIs the the same way and with the same involvement.

And now that we have Tali and Garrus, who were ME2 Lis like the previous 4 mentioned, confirmed as squad mates guess where that leaves us...

Another thing that we can add to this is that Casey Hudson stated that 12 was big number for a team and that ME3's squad will be smaller. So, surely we will have something between ME1's and ME2's numbers, which leaves us at 9 people.

So, by my mind, this is it:
-Liara
-Ashley/Kaidan
-James Vega
-Garrus
-Tali
-Miranda
-Jacob
-Jack
-Thane

The lacking part is that we most likely won't have any other ME2 teammates like Mordin, Legion, Grunt or ME1's Wrex, which I'm sure many people wanted to see a lot more of. But they were always unlikely to feature heavily considering that there are so many other characters that Bioware have committed to with them being developed with strong relationships to the main character and thus each having a story arc that needs to be concluded.

Then I also bet many expected we will see more new characters introduced. But let's be real, it's obvious that Vega only was introduced to balance things out for players who don't have all of the ME2 six alive, and so the worst case will have us with 3 teammates. Which is playable considering it was done before in ME1 if you refuse to bring Garrus on the Normandy, kill Wrex and lose Ashley/Kaidan on Virmire, and also you cand do a huge chunk of the game before you even recruit Liara.

And as a second note, we already have a very heavy cast and Casey promised every main character in the series will be included in ME3. Which is another thing that suggests Vega as being the only new addition. The fact that other characters will be temporary squad mates on their respective plot mission when the story moves to deal with a particular main character also helps to balance the worst case scenario number of teammates. And as a last note, Vega by himself as a new addition is also a good way to even out the male/female ratio on your permanent team.


If this happens to be right on the nose we could actually contemplate our full ME3 squad, and I guess I'm kinda satisfied if it happens to turn out this way.

Modifié par St Mael, 14 mai 2011 - 10:27 .

[Clonedzero]

block of text is scary.

space that out a bit to make it easier to digest even if its not grammatically correct its easier to read than a huge block of text.

also i hope thane is dead or super close to being dead. why? because in ME2 he said he only had a couple months left. ME3 takes place a couple months after ME2. thus. he should be dead.

[Someone With Mass]

Nah, Thane said he had about 8 months left to live, so there's plenty of time for him.

[St Mael]

This board really sucks, I have no idea why it messes with formatting so badly. I wrote it fine then it was posted all messed up, I'm trying to fix it.

Modifié par St Mael, 14 mai 2011 - 10:05 .

[Clonedzero]

St Mael wrote...

This board really sucks, I have no idea why it messes with formatting so badly. I wrote it fine then it was posted all messed up, I'm trying to fix it.

yeah, its done it to me from time to time when i write out long posts too.

[WizenSlinky0]

All LI's are being treated equally but that doesn't mean they have to be implemented in the same way. If a character has legitimate story reasons to not be a full party member, bioware can still put the same amount of time into the romance resolution without going back on their "word" (which in a game still in development, only means so much).

So it's not entirely unexpected for people to be worried. Personally I've already been satisfied so I'm not worrying about it.

[Bad King]

There are too many humans in your list. I want a Raloi!

[Someone With Mass]

I don't expect Samara to be back, since Liara is in ME3. I also think she's better in battle.

[St Mael]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

All LI's are being treated equally but that doesn't mean they have to be implemented in the same way. If a character has legitimate story reasons to not be a full party member, bioware can still put the same amount of time into the romance resolution without going back on their "word" (which in a game still in development, only means so much).

So it's not entirely unexpected for people to be worried. Personally I've already been satisfied so I'm not worrying about it.

That hardly means being treated equally. There's only so much development of a character's relationship that can happen if it's done during a single cameo mission that maybe involves only a couple of conversations throughout between the respective character and Shepard. That's especially wrong if you weigh it against the LI characters that have already been confirmed as permanent teammates and who will be with Shepard all throughout the game while having so much more dialog opportunities aboard the Normady. Nope, that just doesn't work. I stand by what I said.

Modifié par St Mael, 14 mai 2011 - 10:22 .

[Clonedzero]

well if thane comes back, he needs a better outfit, that skin tight pants with like footies looks silly as hell.

at least give him boots or something, not feet coverings that are attached to the pants. looks like he's wearing a wetsuit or something lol

[PauloT-Soni]

Casy Hudson said the number of Shepard's (permanent) crew will decrease in ME3. And on the mass effect wikia it says that his crew will be: Ash, Kaidan, Garrus, James, Liara and Tali. Casey also said that Miranda will be most likely not in Shepard's permanent crew but she will be a very important person in the final game (maybe she will be some kind of medium to how to destroy TIM and guide Shepard I guess).

[Mr. MannlyMan]

I'm pretty sure that Bioware counts Kaidan/Ashley as being two separate squadmates, and doesn't count them as being one like most people here do. Their main goal in cutting down our squad was to free up resources to produce more dialogue/interaction for each squadmate, and each individual character is a tax on those resources (such as they were in ME2), so you should count Kaidan and Ashley separately when you come up with these squadmate lists.

ME2 had 12 possible squadmates, and they didn't even have time (or room) to finish Zaeed or Kasumi during the main development cycle. Now they're promising us MORE interaction, and more depth of interaction, with a reduced squad roster? That leads me to suspect that the final number will be 7-8 possible squadmates.

So...

1. Ashley
2. Kaidan
3. Garrus
4. Tali
5. Liara
6. James Vega
7. Thane (for variety)
8. *new character we haven't heard about yet*

That'd leave you with a minimum of 4 squadmates, and a maximum of 7. I swear, with everything Bioware's said regarding returning squadmates, I would bet a fiddy on this being the case.

[St Mael]

PauloT-Soni wrote...

Casey also said that Miranda will be most likely not in Shepard's permanent crew

He most certainly didn't say that. His tweet said that Miranda is obviously in ME3 and that he hopes she's allright, probably making a reference to a nasty situation she'll find herself in, and left it at that.

[thatguy212]

There will probably be three new squadmembers
1. James Vega the new "lead" male
2. "Lead" Female
3. Awesome character everyone will love (Wrex, Mordin)

[ExtremeOne]

PauloT-Soni wrote...

Casy Hudson said the number of Shepard's (permanent) crew will decrease in ME3. And on the mass effect wikia it says that his crew will be: Ash, Kaidan, Garrus, James, Liara and Tali. Casey also said that Miranda will be most likely not in Shepard's permanent crew but she will be a very important person in the final game (maybe she will be some kind of medium to how to destroy TIM and guide Shepard I guess).

   


thats a dam lie he never said that  

[KainrycKarr]

Casey Hudson never said Miranda most likely won't be in ME3.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I want Miri to be in my squad. And she is MY LI, so I want the Romance with Miri to continue.

[St Mael]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

I'm pretty sure that Bioware counts Kaidan/Ashley as being two separate squadmates, and doesn't count them as being one like most people here do. Their main goal in cutting down our squad was to free up resources to produce more dialogue/interaction for each squadmate, and each individual character is a tax on those resources (such as they were in ME2), so you should count Kaidan and Ashley separately when you come up with these squadmate lists.

ME2 had 12 possible squadmates, and they didn't even have time (or room) to finish Zaeed or Kasumi during the main development cycle. Now they're promising us MORE interaction, and more depth of interaction, with a reduced squad roster? That leads me to suspect that the final number will be 7-8 possible squadmates.

So...

1. Ashley
2. Kaidan
3. Garrus
4. Tali
5. Liara
6. James Vega
7. Thane (for variety)
8. *new character we haven't heard about yet*

That'd leave you with a minimum of 4 squadmates, and a maximum of 7. I swear, with everything Bioware's said regarding returning squadmates, I would bet a fiddy on this being the case.

Bioware also counts Samara and Morinth as the same character when they refer to ME2's twelve so it might not be very different in this case. Although I am aware that implementing Morinth as an alternative to Samara took up less resources then Ashley and Kaiden. I guess that's why ME3 is one over ME2 and the team are pushing to make all these game mechanics better and more complex.


I still believe we will have a team of maximum 9 members and it might turnout like I said.

Modifié par St Mael, 14 mai 2011 - 10:42 .

[PauloT-Soni]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

I'm pretty sure that Bioware counts Kaidan/Ashley as being two separate squadmates, and doesn't count them as being one like most people here do. Their main goal in cutting down our squad was to free up resources to produce more dialogue/interaction for each squadmate, and each individual character is a tax on those resources (such as they were in ME2), so you should count Kaidan and Ashley separately when you come up with these squadmate lists.

ME2 had 12 possible squadmates, and they didn't even have time (or room) to finish Zaeed or Kasumi during the main development cycle. Now they're promising us MORE interaction, and more depth of interaction, with a reduced squad roster? That leads me to suspect that the final number will be 7-8 possible squadmates.

So...

1. Ashley
2. Kaidan
3. Garrus
4. Tali
5. Liara
6. James Vega
7. Thane (for variety)
8. *new character we haven't heard about yet*

That'd leave you with a minimum of 4 squadmates, and a maximum of 7. I swear, with everything Bioware's said regarding returning squadmates, I would bet a fiddy on this being the case.

whoops made a little mistake there, lol both ashley and kaidan alive something's not right xD.

[St Mael]

thatguy212 wrote...

There will probably be three new squadmembers
1. James Vega the new "lead" male
2. "Lead" Female
3. Awesome character everyone will love (Wrex, Mordin)

There is no reason for new "lead" males and females since there won't be any new LIs this time around. For the good reasons I already mentioned I believe Vega will be the only new character. Guessing is not an exact science though.

[ExtremeOne]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Casey Hudson never said Miranda most likely won't be in ME3.

   

She is in 3 and now Bioware needs to announce her as a squad mate at E3. Ashley fans got their wish . Now its time for us Miranda fans to get ours from Bioware fan service better not be for the ME 1 fans only 

[WizenSlinky0]

St Mael wrote...

That hardly means being treated equally. There's only so much development of a character's relationship that can happen if it's done during a single cameo mission that maybe involves only a couple of conversations throughout between the respective character and Shepard. That's especially wrong if you weigh it against the LI characters that have already been confirmed as permanent teammates and who will be with Shepard all throughout the game while having so much more dialog opportunities aboard the Normady. Nope, that just doesn't work. I stand by what I said.

It would not be difficult for them to implement it so you meet them at varying intervals for missions that involve stopping the reapers, which slowly builds on the romance, until the final scene before the final battle where they come to visit you on the Normandy.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

ExtremeOne wrote...


She is in 3 and now Bioware needs to announce her as a squad mate at E3. Ashley fans got their wish . Now its time for us Miranda fans to get ours from Bioware fan service better not be for the ME 1 fans only 

AGREED!!!!

[PauloT-Soni]

ExtremeOne wrote...

PauloT-Soni wrote...

Casy Hudson said the number of Shepard's (permanent) crew will decrease in ME3. And on the mass effect wikia it says that his crew will be: Ash, Kaidan, Garrus, James, Liara and Tali. Casey also said that Miranda will be most likely not in Shepard's permanent crew but she will be a very important person in the final game (maybe she will be some kind of medium to how to destroy TIM and guide Shepard I guess).

   


thats a dam lie he never said that  

that's what I thought when Liara wasn't my crewmember in ME2

don't say that to me I read it on a trusted game website (dont remember the name)

but ofcourse it is a rumour and we don't know if Casey Hudson really said that but it was an