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Not only that Geth Heretics turned True Geth to worship Reapers, Cerberus also has Legion for cyber weapon divisions.


That's kinda screwed up scenario, don't you think?

Modifié par Mesina2, 24 mai 2011 - 01:58 .


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What?

Do you mean that Geth Heretics tried to turn True Geth to worshipping the Reapers or do you mean that the Legion totally brainwashed the Heretics?

What are you asking, anyway?

EDIT: Or does selling Legion mean the Heretics brainwash the Geth?

Then yeah, that's damn messed up. I never had a problem with Cerberus turning evil in ME3, because that's kinda obvious. But those poor souls who thought a geth on the Normandy was a bad idea are totally gonna get screwed.

Modifié par Antivenger, 15 mai 2011 - 10:07 .


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Well, ... it's the pro Cerberus action. When did Cerberus ever not spectaculously screw up experiments of that sort?

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Antivenger wrote...

What?

Do you mean that Geth Heretics tried to turn True Geth to worshipping the Reapers or do you mean that the Legion totally brainwashed the Heretics?

What are you asking, anyway?


Balded part and I'm sure they succeed since we succeed that in Legion LM, but since you sold Legion to Cerberus we can't do his LM and stop that virus.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Antivenger wrote...

What?

Do you mean that Geth Heretics tried to turn True Geth to worshipping the Reapers or do you mean that the Legion totally brainwashed the Heretics?

What are you asking, anyway?


Balded part and I'm sure they succeed since we succeed that in Legion LM, but since you sold Legion to Cerberus we can't do his LM and stop that virus.


Thats OK though. TIM reformats Legion to run on Windows and releases him back into the collective. As with any Windows device connecting to a non-Windows network, it will flood said network with truncated tcp/ip packets and bring it to a grinding halt.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Well, ... it's the pro Cerberus action. When did Cerberus ever not spectaculously screw up experiments of that sort?

Yeah it's this as usual. Also I think we can allow ourselves to just pick the more fun option wich in my opinion is to include a rather different kind of squadmate, despite what some may say is the "only logical" thing to do (this was not intended as a critique of the OP).

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....

Hmm.

I imagine that would be a choice very few would have made...but throws up some very interesting scenarios.

I imagine it might also be the only scenario where you will face a large number of Geth as the enemy...UNLESS the Geth realising what the Reaper threat actually means...turn against them...but that would seem like a cop out.


Hmm...this leads me back to my previous statements, where until I hear the words "No matter what your choice, Cerberus is going to try to kill you"..I still doubt how its all going to unfold with Cerberus.

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^Well I know that, but it would make them stronger.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Antivenger wrote...

What?

Do you mean that Geth Heretics tried to turn True Geth to worshipping the Reapers or do you mean that the Legion totally brainwashed the Heretics?

What are you asking, anyway?


Bolded part and I'm sure they succeed since we succeed that in Legion LM, but since you sold Legion to Cerberus we can't do his LM and stop that virus.

While I've heard some people raise the argument that the True Geth would simply send out a task force to destroy the station once Legion went offline, I don't buy that argument for various reasons (dramatic and convenience). I expect, even hope, that this is one of those decisions that can seriously come to shape ME3, and not for the better.

All Geth being Heretic Geth really means that, especially without Legion to assert otherwise, that no one will ever have known (or have had any reason to know) the nature of the 'True' Geth. The Geth will be another race that must be overcome in order to survive the Reaper War, and history will only have known them as omni-genocidal creations that killed all emissionaries ever sent to establish peaceful contact and who tried unprovoked mass genocide against Humans and the rest of the galaxy.


The ME3 effects would be interesting indeed. Peace between the Quarians and Geth would be impossible. Trying to side with the Geth regardless (possibly by sabatoging Quarian invasion attempts for some diplomatic contact) would be a disaster for your efforts against the galaxy. About the best you could do would be hope to use the Quarian Flotila to screen the Geth from helping the Reapers, or to side with Admiral Xen and try and take over the Geth entirely..

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My "poor,poor" pro-Cerberus FemShep, with a squad comprising only Jacob and Miranda. This will be fun!!!

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Mesina2 wrote...

Not only that Geth Heretics turned True Geth to worship Reapers, Cerberus also has Legion for cyber weapon divisions.


Gonna be rough.

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The true geth accepted the fact that the heretics had other viewpoints, so I find it hard to imagine them attacking each other out of nowhere.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The true geth accepted the fact that the heretics had other viewpoints, so I find it hard to imagine them attacking each other out of nowhere.


So did you not play ME2 or something?

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And you assume I care about what you think, because...?

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Someone With Mass wrote...

And you assume I care about what you think, because...?


lol, what in the hell has that got to do with anything?

I'll repeat the question: did you play ME2?

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The Heretics didn't accept that the Geth had other viewpoints.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The true geth accepted the fact that the heretics had other viewpoints, so I find it hard to imagine them attacking each other out of nowhere.

If one doesn't keep Legion and therefore doesn't do his LM, the Heretics will succeed in "infecting" all true Geth with their super-virus. If all geth are reprogrammed, we are gonna we have a lot more Heretics to fight with.

And it pretty much rules out the chance of negotiating peace between geth and quarians, as other posters habe already stated.

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Zall wrote...
If one doesn't keep Legion and therefore doesn't do his LM, the Heretics will succeed in "infecting" all true Geth with their super-virus. If all geth are reprogrammed, we are gonna we have a lot more Heretics to fight with.

And it pretty much rules out the chance of negotiating peace between geth and quarians, as other posters habe already stated.


That´s a flawed logic, you are assuming that the normal geth would never realise what happened once the heretics start acting agaisnt them. The heretics may infect say another 25% of the normal geth, but once legion´s geth realise what is going on, they will simply counterattack. In fact if the heretics try to sabotage the dyson sphere of the normal geth then a geth civil war is pretty much assured.

Another thing people tend to forget is that in Legion LM you destroy the virus that allowed control of the geth. Therefore if you want to have the maximun chances of gaining control over the geth (besides project overlord, selling legion and Rael´zorah research) then you need that virus, to study and hopefully repurpose it to your own ends. This is why i think keeping Legion and doing his LM is not a good idea if you hope to control the geth.

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I would sell him anytime .

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LOTSB hints that Legion escaped from Cerberus if you sold him off.

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^Wait, he did?

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ExtremeOne wrote...

I would sell him anytime .

We know.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Wait, he did?


Go here and scroll down to "Cerberus Surveillance Transcript"

http://masseffect.wi...Dossiers/Legion

Modifié par Seboist, 15 mai 2011 - 07:04 .


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^Ha, never looked that entry that way.

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ExtremeOne wrote...

I would sell him anytime .


Isn't that bad decision?

Isn't it better to get Legion, brainwash Heretics and then use them against Quarians?

I mean, don't you dislike Quarians?