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CroGamer002

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While I was checking on Twitter I saw this.

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Which means that it is possible that Illusive Man is NOT hunting Shepard but something happen in Cerberus and someone else took over Cerberus that works with the Reapers.

It is possible and it would explain why Cerberus is hunting Shepard even though Illusive Man went into huge trouble to save Shepard.




EDIT#1

Casey Houston said Illusive Man is responsible for every action made by Cerbrus in ME3 in E3 Earth Demo.

Modifié par Mesina2, 07 juin 2011 - 05:41 .


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Icinix

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I still don't think Cerberus is going to be the enemy if you played a pro-cerberus ME2 game...


..but like I said...maybe just my rampant fanboyism seeing the ultimate game being prepped.

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Saw what?

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Icinix wrote...

I still don't think Cerberus is going to be the enemy if you played a pro-cerberus ME2 game...


No, Cerberus will hunt Shepard no matter what.
Casey said that.

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A rogue cell working for the Reapers sounds possible.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I still don't think Cerberus is going to be the enemy if you played a pro-cerberus ME2 game...


No, Cerberus will hunt Shepard no matter what.
Casey said that.


He did? I thought the answer he gave was incredibly vague...

..even so, I still don't think its going to be TIM hunting you, maybe some splinter group, but not TRUE Cerberus.

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I think, with all the study of Reaper tech, at least some Cerberus higher-ups have to be indoctrinated. Still, it could be that the Illusive Man thinks you helped Anderson with what Anderson did in Retribution. That would probably annoy him a bit.

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It would be a pretty disappointing turn of events if the Illusive Man just decided to go around trying to kill you all of a sudden. Unless there's a very good explanation. A better one than "suddenly, he thought that the Reapers can be negotiated with." That'd be one hell of a Paragon/Renegade conversation option though.

Still, here's to hoping that the Illusive Man sticks to Shepard's side. He's a really cool character and I'd hope to seem him developed in an interesting manner rather than just turned into a default villain/Reaper drone.

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@Mesina2

Thanks for posting my tweet!

I always wondered why it was always said Cerberus is after Shepard and NOT TIM. It could be some part of Cerberus that goes rogue.

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I think(and seeing how vague Casey Hudson is about this stuff gives me some hope) that Cerberus wont be just dumbed down into some standard evil organization or even more so into Reaper-worshippers. Probably there will be subplot about Cerberus and in the end we will confront TIM. He will give us some explanations or motivations about this situation and we will be choose what to do with him. If Shepard don't believe or agree with TIM, Cerberus is disbanded, otherwise organization continues its existence. Most probably there will also be some kind of uber-weapon or technology at stake.

Modifié par LorDC, 15 mai 2011 - 08:11 .


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Well isn't that funny..? I posed this very question about a week or two ago...and a lot of people were giving me a hard time....at least the possibility is there

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This theory would explain a great deal.

Shep blows up the base, and Cerberus "investors" take over the management.

Shep doesn't blow up the base. Powerful people want it, and push TIM aside -- or TIM is your full-fledged enemy.

While Hudson's reply may seem vague, BioWare's been unambiguous that Cerberus is an enemy. Hudson's unwillingness to say TIM is a clear enemy is significant. I don't believe Hudson is toying with us here.

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Thompson family wrote...

This theory would explain a great deal.

Shep blows up the base, and Cerberus "investors" take over the management.

Shep doesn't blow up the base. Powerful people want it, and push TIM aside -- or TIM is your full-fledged enemy.

While Hudson's reply may seem vague, BioWare's been unambiguous that Cerberus is an enemy. Hudson's unwillingness to say TIM is a clear enemy is significant. I don't believe Hudson is toying with us here.


Hope you´re right! The more intricate, the better! ;)

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Makes sense - maybe one of Cerberus' cells is so pro-humanity that they believe ascension to Reaper-hood is the best way to secure human dominance. Add a little indoctrination and the Reapers could easily convince at least part of Cerberus to hunt Shepard in return for turning humanity into a Reaper. Whether they were planning to do that anyway, or whether being Reaper-ified is what the Cerberus cell is expecting remains to be seen.

At least that's how I'm interpreting this.

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As long as I can be bros with The Illusive Man, I'll be fine.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

As long as I can be bros with The Illusive Man, I'll be fine.


And Kai Leng.

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ShadowJ20 wrote...

@Mesina2

Thanks for posting my tweet!

I always wondered why it was always said Cerberus is after Shepard and NOT TIM. It could be some part of Cerberus that goes rogue.


another reason to kill Jacob (and miranda if she's not your squeez and you lost her loyalty)

they're powerful enough to set up a rogue cerberus-employee team and steal cerberus intel: the reaper-ship if you went renegade in the SM) and ofcourse the technology to improve or upgrade (dead) guys :)

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I think it is probably going to depend on the choice that you made at the end of ME 2.

If you obliged and gave him the base, then he and a few other rogue Cerberus agents will probably assist Shepard in ME 3.

If you gave him the finger and blew it up, then he is probably going to be an enemy.

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im speculating that TIM is ousted for power due to the events that occurred at the end of ME2. really, no matter what happened, it didn't turn out well for anyone. it seems very unlikely that TIM would be after shepard after so long when he had plenty of opportunities to kill him. indoctrination would be so weaksauce.

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Interesting. Not answering whether the Illusive Man is after Shepard even though Cerberus itself is. You'd think that'd be a given.

Let's see what comes of this...

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Seboist wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

As long as I can be bros with The Illusive Man, I'll be fine.


And Kai Leng.


Really? You want to be best buds with a homicidal bigoted lunatic who probably joined Cerberus because they would allow him to kill aliens and did horrible things to Paul Grayson? Things invloving Red Sand and Reaper Tech?

Lady, there is being pro Cerberus, and then there is being a person the Paragons would never even offer a second chance, and I play RENAGADE!

Note, I am NOT trying to be threatening here, there are no veiled threats in this post.

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It was always a slight possibility. He neither confirms nor disputes it. Pity, that. After saying so much, I wish they'd say the rest.

Also, concerning a cell of Cerberus going rouge - one would think that a single cell couldn't afford all those legions of soldiers.

Many thanks from me to everyone who asks Casey Cerberus-related questions. :)

EDIT: By the way, if TIM and Cerberus worked apart now, I'm guessing it would be "a lot" into spoiler territory, not "a bit." But I'll try not to read too much into this. :P

Modifié par laecraft, 16 mai 2011 - 08:29 .


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laecraft wrote...

It was always a slight possibility. He neither confirms nor disputes it. Pity, that. After saying so much, I wish they'd say the rest.

Also, concerning a cell of Cerberus going rouge - one would think that a single cell couldn't afford all those legions of soldiers.

Many thanks from me to everyone who asks Casey Cerberus-related questions. :)

EDIT: By the way, if TIM and Cerberus worked apart now, I'm guessing it would be "a lot" into spoiler territory, not "a bit." But I'll try not to read too much into this. :P


Unless that rouge cell focused on indocternation of people to train into an army

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I think it's more likely that the illusive man got pushed aside rather than using indoctrination but there were some Cerberus cells studying the indoctrination effect so it's possible that they might have figured out a way to replicate it.

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That should say "rather than a rogue cell using indoctrination to raise am army" (I'm on my phone and can't edit my post).