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[MasterLogo51]

Does anyone relize that Cerberus stands for a three-headed dog that gaurds the gates of Hades? Maybe TIM got kicked out and one of the other "heads" took over. TIM could be our secert ally. Watch this video and maybe you can see where I'm coming from.



Warning: Arrival DLC Spoilers inside video, Watch with care!

Maybe we don't know all the little secerts that the creators at BioWare know, even if you have a inside soruce, you may not be given all the correct information. Just enough to keep you off the real trail.

Modifié par MasterLogo51, 27 mai 2011 - 07:11 .

[vanslyke85]

This is the theory I've had since we found out Cerberus is after shepherd. It just didn't make sense for TIM to make such a giant switch. Especially after reading all the novels and comics, I just didn't see him turning on the galaxies greatest chance at victory. We will see.

[MasterLogo51]

Don't forget what happened to the Captian in ME1, he was forced to step down as commander of the Normandy. TIM made have been forced, by his supierors, or even by gun point. Maybe he did something that the other people didn't like.

[Dave of Canada]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

Don't forget what happened to the Captian in ME1, he was forced to step down as commander of the Normandy. TIM made have been forced, by his supierors, or even by gun point. Maybe he did something that the other people didn't like.

TIM doesn't have superiors, he's the top of the Cerberus foodchain. He's isolated away from everybody else except for a handful of people who know the location of his base, even if he absolutely infuriated people or his top agents were indocrinated they wouldn't be able to track him down.

[Nathan Redgrave]

The "Cerberus" name isn't about the dog having three heads, but rather guarding the gates of Hades. The anonymous extranet manifesto mentioned in the Cerberus codex spells that out rather plainly, calling for a "Cerberus" to guard against invasion through the Charon relay.

[MasterLogo51]

Check your ancient Mythology, It names a three-headed dog that guards the gates of Hell named Cerberus. And even if he is at the top, people must work at the same level as him becasue him alone couldn't run the entire Cerberus Company. He has to have some kind of people working in Isolation else where in the galaxy to fully run the company in secercy so well. Or there is someone close to him that has been turned by the Reapers.

[Dean_the_Young]

Hades isn't Hell. Hades is where ALL the dead people go, not simply the bad people: Hades has its paradise and its punishments, but it serves neither the same purpose or context of the Christian Hell (a place where the sinners go to be punished).

Stop mixing mythologies.


Cerberus is a traditional cell-structured network, in design and execution.

[MasterLogo51]

Hell and Hades are the some thing, The gates of Hell (Hades) is before you enter Hell itself. And I think I know some of my Mythology, I have been taking it for about a year now.

[Inquisitor Recon]

MasterLogo51 wrote...
Does anyone relize that Cerberus stands for a three-headed dog that gaurds the gates of Hades? Maybe TIM got kicked out and one of the other "heads" took over. TIM could be our secert ally. Watch this video and maybe you can see where I'm coming from.

This is an interesting idea. Remember one of Joker's comments? Perhaps there is an internal power struggle rather than the "TIM IS EVILLLLLL" idea.

[Dean_the_Young]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

Hell and Hades are the some thing, The gates of Hell (Hades) is before you enter Hell itself. And I think I know some of my Mythology, I have been taking it for about a year now.

Then you're doing poorly. Greek mythology and Christian mythology are distinct in their applications of the term. Cerberus from ME2 is an allusion on the Greek-Roman concept of Hades, which is not the same as the Christian conception of Hell.

Greek-Roman Hades is the place where all dead mortals, good and evil, go for their afterlife. It is helpfully distinguished by the ferryman Charon, and  the subsection the Elysium fields. The Alliance uses these terms, and a number of greek-specific references, in its early exploration.

The Christian Hell is the place where all the dead go, while Mass Effect deliberatly avoids nearly all Christian themology, reference, and implication. The Christian Hell, besides largely being defined in pop-culture by Dante's Inferno, has a far greater emphasis on its role as place of the damned, and doesn't have an equivalent Charan.

[MasterLogo51]

you know what, just sht up and talk about the game. It will settle this argumant.

[MasterLogo51]

does anyone have conformed or unconformed information about the Rachni being in ME3? Just stopped at Illuim on my fourth playthrough (different character) and I recieved a message from the Rachni Queen saying that she will help me clean the darkness in the Galaxy. See as she doesn't appear in ME2, will she make a appearens in ME3? Anyone know for sure? I need a answer not a guess here.

[Dean_the_Young]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

you know what, just sht up and talk about the game. It will settle this argumant.

Can't even pretend to gracefully withdraw from an argument you started, can you?

Kids these days. Get a year of college in them, and they think they're beyond correction.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 27 mai 2011 - 08:52 .

[Dean_the_Young]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

does anyone have conformed or unconformed information about the Rachni being in ME3? Just stopped at Illuim on my fourth playthrough (different character) and I recieved a message from the Rachni Queen saying that she will help me clean the darkness in the Galaxy. See as she doesn't appear in ME2, will she make a appearens in ME3? Anyone know for sure? I need a answer not a guess here.

It's been confirmed that Rachni husks, at the very least, will show up in ME3.

[GreenDragon37]

All I want is an option to kill him, and I'll be good. Don't care if he was ousted from power or not, he's on my **** list.

[MasterLogo51]

Thanks about the info, TIM is on my hitlist too. As well as Ordina from ME1. Oh and Dean_the_Young, I'm 35, I work as a Master Sergeant in the United States Air Force. I just came back from two tours over seas and found out my father died (at age 82) around the begining of my second tour, so yeah I'm not going to "gracefully withdraw" as you said.

Made correction on age, accenditally pushed wrong button

Modifié par MasterLogo51, 27 mai 2011 - 09:27 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

MasterLogo51 wrote...

does anyone have conformed or unconformed information about the Rachni being in ME3? Just stopped at Illuim on my fourth playthrough (different character) and I recieved a message from the Rachni Queen saying that she will help me clean the darkness in the Galaxy. See as she doesn't appear in ME2, will she make a appearens in ME3? Anyone know for sure? I need a answer not a guess here.

It's been confirmed that Rachni husks, at the very least, will show up in ME3.

One way or another, there's no certainty that the Rachni were entirely wiped out in ME1 even if you kill the queen. The Rachni developed by Cerberus, revealed in the Listening Post Alpha/Theta and Depot Sigma-23 quests, were eradicated from those three locations by Shepard--if he did the sidequests--but there is in fact nothing to suggest that they were eradicated entirely. Instead, we're likely looking at two Rachni factions in ME3: the Cerberus-bred Rachni who are likely hostile toward other species due to their origins, and the Rachni Queen's more reasonable Rachni, assuming you spared her. It may be possible for the Rachni Queen's faction to sway the hostile Rachni to your side, or it may not, but in any event, this is the scenario I'm betting on, as it makes implementing the Rachni Queen choice easier on the developers--there will always be Rachni in ME3; the survival of the Rachni Queen simply alters the course of events in the scenario(s) involving them.

[Odoyle]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

does anyone have conformed or unconformed information about the Rachni being in ME3? Just stopped at Illuim on my fourth playthrough (different character) and I recieved a message from the Rachni Queen saying that she will help me clean the darkness in the Galaxy. See as she doesn't appear in ME2, will she make a appearens in ME3? Anyone know for sure? I need a answer not a guess here.

The decision to kill or spare the Rachni queen is a pretty serious one. Important enough to be included in ME: Genesis, and important enough for them to send a message your way in ME:2 that the Rachni will join with you against the coming darkness. I think they've made it pretty clear that the Rachni will be involved in the Reaper war, if you were smart enough to save them. Even my Renegade characters let her go; it would be stupid not to.

[MasterLogo51]

agreed. And if they are part of the Reaper War, I wonder if they may be a turning point, like if you are out getting all species to work together and out of nowhere, a Rachni ship lands near you and the Queen comes out with a person (could be the person you talked to on Illuim in ME2) so she can tell you she is there you help you in any way possible.

[MasterLogo51]

Hey, what about the Conrad dude you meet on the Citadal and on Illum? Any Idea if he will make another appearence?

[Dean_the_Young]

Conrad Verner's return has been confirmed. The import bug (where Conrad reacted as if the player Renegade-persuaded) has been implied to be a facet of his return.

[MasterLogo51]

interesting. I wonder if you finally get to shot that dumb ass?

[KainrycKarr]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

Hell and Hades are the some thing, The gates of Hell (Hades) is before you enter Hell itself. And I think I know some of my Mythology, I have been taking it for about a year now.

But that's irrelevent because its spelled out in the Codex that Cerberus is named due to the guarding the gates of hell bit, not the three-headed dog bit.

[KainrycKarr]

MasterLogo51 wrote...

interesting. I wonder if you finally get to shot that dumb ass?

...You shoot him in Me2. In the foot

[MasterLogo51]

No, I mean actually shot to kill? Is there any way he could be turned into serving the Reapers?