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[MingWolf]

1) Neverwinter Nights 1
2) Baldur's Gate 2
3) Mass Effect 2
4) Dragon Age: Origins
5) Mass Effect
6) Baldur's Gate
7) Dragon Age 2

I also own KOTOR and Jade Empire SE, but haven't played through them enough to stick a rank to them.

[Spjuv3rn]

1. Baldur's Gate/Tosc

2. Baldur's Gate 2/Tob

3. Jade Empire

4. Kotor

5. Mass Effect

6. Dragon Age: Origins/Awekening

7. Dragon Age 2

8. Mass Effect 2

I haven't played enough NWN to judge it but it would probably get a fifth place.

This doesn't mean DA2 is bad (the only bad game on the list is ME2).

[Aurvan]

1. Baldur's Gate 1 - Gets extra points for being revolutionary in starting a new genre more or less.
2. Baldur's Gate 2 - Maybe better than BG1 in some aspects, but I still loved the epic plot in BG1 more.

3. Knights of the Old Republic - Proved that there could be good Star Wars games (Jedi Knight series also rocks).
4. Mass Effect 1 - Epic space RPG? Count me in!
5. Neverwinter Nights - Sort of a disappointment, but due to toolset and online, my most played game ever.
6. Mass Effect 2 - Good game, but disappointing as a sequel. Didn't advance the storyline at all.
7. Dragon Age 2 - Despite its shortcomings, I liked the combat and graphics.
8. Dragon Age: Origins - Was expecting BG3, which it was not. Also, the combat was unresponsive, and the characters looked creepy. Thankfully mods made it possible to change most of them, but the NPCs were still there... and everyone looked the same. Still better than most non-Bioware RPGs, though.

Modifié par Aurvan, 15 mai 2011 - 05:11 .

[Youknow]

1. Mass Effect 2
2. KOTOR
3. Mass Effect
4. Dragon Age: Origins
5. Dragon Age 2
6. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood

[RPGrogue]

1. DAO
2. ME2
3. DA2
4. ME

[Drachasor]

DA2 is easily the worst Bioware game I've ever played.

The only one I haven't played is Jade Empire (I'd rank BG2 at the top).

[Aurvan]

I have a question. Why do so many have ME2 so high but DA2 so low? Apart from the technical aspect (in which ME2 is better than DA2), they are criticised for much of the same "consolification" of classic RPG-style games, as well as a story that doesn't "move the plot forward" in the setting.

Because, let's face it, it's not the technical side that makes the Baldur's Gate games so great, but the epic story, real choices (both for story and game mechanics), character interaction, and the open adventure. In this, both ME2 and DA2 is pretty similar - limited. So is it the reused areas, exploding bodies, and parachuting ninjas that differentiate DA2 so much from ME2?

[STiAT]

1. DA:O
2. Baldur's Gate/Tosc
3. Baldur's Gate 2/Tob
4. NWN2
5. Mass Effect 2
 
6. Dragon Age 2

Modifié par STiAT, 15 mai 2011 - 05:39 .

[inkjay]

I don't even consider it worthy of making the list. God, how I wish this game never happened. I'd be happier if the franchise had ended with Origins, because DA2 is a really bad omen of what's to come for Bioware.

[AlrinKireen]

1. DAO
2. KOTOR
3. Baldurs Gate 2
4. Neverwinter Nights 1
5. Mass Effect
6. Baldurs Gate
7. DA2

[Drachasor]

inkjay wrote...

I don't even consider it worthy of making the list. God, how I wish this game never happened. I'd be happier if the franchise had ended with Origins, because DA2 is a really bad omen of what's to come for Bioware.

Well, we'll know in a year or two how things will go for Bioware.  We'll have some more info on DA3 and ME3 will have come out.  If the latter is rushed or is still light on the RP elements (I think ME2 was fairly light...it isn't as good as most other Bioware games), then things look pretty downhill.  I know TOR is coming out too, but I'd ignore that.

[Akka le Vil]

Baldur's Gate 2
Mass Effect 2
KotOR

Dragon Age Origin
Mass Effect 1
Jade Empire

Dragon Age 2
Baldur's Gate 1
Neverwinter Night (official campaign part, I know that the toolset was actually the point of the game)

[ROD525]

1-Mass Effect
2-Mass Effect 2
3-Dragon Age Origins
4-Dragon Age Awakening
5-Knights of The Old Republic
6-Dragon Age 2
7-Jade Empire

[bEVEsthda]

DA2 is much better than NWN:OC, IMO.
But NWN had the toolset and dungeon keeper set. And it also had good follow on campaigns, as expansions.

A big problem of DA2 is also what it did to DA:O. Because it's obvious that the team intended to kill off any games like Origin, and turn Dragon Age into an entirely different, devolved, direction. THAT is what truly makes DA2 a horrible game.
Otherwise, I finished DA2 and sort of enjoyed it.

Of course I rate the BG games highest.
Then DAO. (and I liked Awakening too)
Then KoTOR.

Have both ME games, but haven't managed to force myself to finish any of them. They don't seem bad (at least not the first) but I'm simply not so hooked.

Never played Jade Empire.

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 15 mai 2011 - 08:04 .

[neppakyo]

1. BG1
2. BG2
3. DA:O
4. ME1
5. ME2
6. NWN1
7. DA:A
8. KOTOR
9. Jade Empire
10. Sonic Chronicals (it would be last, but DA2 beat it out for last spot)
100. DA2

Thats that.

[Teredan]

1. ME - DA:O (they're tied)
2. ME2
3. KotoR (it has a soft spot I played it when I was, I believe 12/ fond memories and stuff)
4. NwN1
5. Jade Empire
6. DA2

That's for Bioware games but I've to say that it also ranks pretty low for games in general that I've played. That said, I also don't really bother with bad games and usually play only good ones only.

[Mrbananagrabber]

(Not counting expansions)

Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
Dragon Age: Origins
KOTOR
Baldur's Gate
Mass Effect
Neverwinter Nights
Jade Empire
Dragon Age 2

[Altima Darkspells]

If I didn't own Sonic Chronicles, DA2 would be the worst game from BioWare that I've ever played.

It's certainly the worst game I've bought at full price in a very long time.

[erynnar]

Since I am newer to playing RPGs...I asked hubby. His list:

1) BG2
2) Morrowind
3) Icewind Dale 1
4) ME1 (even though he considers ME more of a shooter than RPG)
5) BG1
6) DAO/DAO:A
7) ME2
8) Witcher
9) Icewind Dale 2
10) Neverwinter Nights 1
11) Betrayal at Krondor

[Addai]

Aurvan wrote...

I have a question. Why do so many have ME2 so high but DA2 so low? Apart from the technical aspect (in which ME2 is better than DA2), they are criticised for much of the same "consolification" of classic RPG-style games, as well as a story that doesn't "move the plot forward" in the setting.

Because, let's face it, it's not the technical side that makes the Baldur's Gate games so great, but the epic story, real choices (both for story and game mechanics), character interaction, and the open adventure. In this, both ME2 and DA2 is pretty similar - limited. So is it the reused areas, exploding bodies, and parachuting ninjas that differentiate DA2 so much from ME2?

Can only speak for myself, but ME2 is simply a much more polished game, and the actiony style lends itself better to a shooter IMO.  I think they'd have been better off letting the two franchises stay more differentiated, DA being more the classic RPG and ME the action hybrid.

As it is, of my limited experience with Bioware games, Origins is way out in front, DA2 and ME2 are tied at second, and ME1 last, mainly because I had bad audio and found the cursed Mako and other gameplay elements so frustrating on PC. (and because Ashley and Kaidan are both a pile of fail)

Modifié par Addai67, 15 mai 2011 - 09:28 .

[mesmerizedish]

In terms of how good a game it is, second. In terms of how fun it is to play, first.

[neppakyo]

erynnar wrote...

Since I am newer to playing RPGs...I asked hubby. His list:

1) BG2
2) Morrowind
3) Icewind Dale 1
4) ME1 (even though he considers ME more of a shooter than RPG)
5) BG1
6) DAO/DAO:A
7) ME2
8) Witcher
9) Icewind Dale 2
10) Neverwinter Nights 1
11) Betrayal at Krondor

Bioware games, dear   But nice list regardless

[Mrbananagrabber]

neppakyo wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Since I am newer to playing RPGs...I asked hubby. His list:

1) BG2
2) Morrowind
3) Icewind Dale 1
4) ME1 (even though he considers ME more of a shooter than RPG)
5) BG1
6) DAO/DAO:A
7) ME2
8) Witcher
9) Icewind Dale 2
10) Neverwinter Nights 1
11) Betrayal at Krondor

Bioware games, dear   But nice list regardless

Well I think Icewind Dale 1 at least uses the Bioware engine hehe