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[Antivenger]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

There should be a clear distinction between pursuing a friendship and pursuing a relationship. I went too far with Jack and had no idea. I was just trying to reach out to her... not romance her.

Jack flat-out asks you if you've got feelings for her

"You got feelings for me, Shepard? *And then something about sex*"

To which you can reply,

- Yes, I want to get to know you.
- No.
- Nah, I just want to shag you.

Modifié par Antivenger, 16 mai 2011 - 08:27 .

[Someone With Mass]

I'd like the option to be only friends. Mostly because I don't want to dodge romances every time I talk to people on the ship.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Antivenger wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

There should be a clear distinction between pursuing a friendship and pursuing a relationship. I went too far with Jack and had no idea. I was just trying to reach out to her... not romance her.

Jack flat-out asks you if you've got feelings for her

"You got feelings for me, Shepard? *And then something about sex*"

To which you can reply,

- Yes, I want to get to know you.
- No.
- Nah, I just want to shag you.

She was saying everyone was after her for something other than her as a person.  My Shep genuinely cared about her, just not romantically.  He did want to get to know her. 
How could that be romance if he doesn't even know her?

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 16 mai 2011 - 08:32 .

[GreenSoda]

I'm okay with this. I just hope they don't implement it like in DA2. Making the NPCs sexuality depended on player preferability really cheapened the characters.

[SalsaDMA]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...
If you don't like the S/S romances, don't do them.
[/Thread]

It's not that simple. It never is.

Yes, it is. Its the same mechanism that stops you from talking to people you dont like, or not watching TV shows you think are lame.
Dont like it, dont do it. As they say, if sex is a pain in the arse, you're doing it wrong.

No, it's not that simple, and you are ignoring the issue.

The game series up till now have given you, the player, a clear image in your head about the characters and their personalities.

If any of the characters are suddenly doing an 180 on sexual preference, then it's no longer the same character in the players mind. Damage will be done to the characters continum regardless of wether you can tell the NPC to 'get lost', and the story as a whole will suffer from it.

Add to this that some people take offense if you seriously suggest that they are into s/s relations, and you have all the stuff you could want to make sure that ME3 is heading into a deroute for quite a few people, solely because of this.

I don't mind homosexuals. I do mind the increasingly homosexualization of bioware games that make it appear as if it's just as common, or more, than heterosexuality; especially when they change existing characterws in this regard.

[Errol Dnamyx]

People shouldn't get their hopes or fears up, before we get any confirmation.
Personally, I doubt that BW will turn any of the heterosexual characters into bi's.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 16 mai 2011 - 10:12 .

[xSTONEYx187x]

So James Vega is going to be like the Ving Rhames in "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry"? A big muscle bound gay guy?

God, I hope not.

Hopefully BioWare add the "heart" icon like in DA II so is that you don't accidentally flirt with one of your brosephs.

[Zubie]

If they want to add new bisexual or homosexual characters, that's awesome. Just leave the old characters alone.

[Antivenger]

I understand why some people wouldn't want their characters "ruined" (using the word in broad terms, here). I, for one deem it character development.

Actually, no. My Fem!Shep just needs some love from Ash. I'm a selfish bastard.

The only one who states their heterosexuality are Tali and Thane anyway. The others just sort of.. not, come on to a Shepard of the same sex.

[Blacklash93]

ReconTeam wrote...

Whereto wrote...
Wow, why does there need to be same sex romances... Like seriously, it doesn't add anything to the game, exept something for pre teens to laugh at.

Because apparently developers can be influenced by enough complaining or political correctness guilt trips. Adds nothing for the rest of us but if you don't like it you're a bigot.

It adds something to the game for a small minority of people. Is there anything wrong with that, though? It's not like you lose much at their gain.

And Bioware did not cave in. They could have ignored the gay community here and have been none the worse for it. It was their call the whole time.

[d-boy15]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

People shouldn't get their hopes or fears up, before we get any confirmation.
Personally, I doubt that BW will turn any of the heterosexual characters into bi's.

They already do it in DAII.

Modifié par d-boy15, 16 mai 2011 - 10:55 .

[Someone With Mass]

d-boy15 wrote...
They already do it in DAII.

Too bad that ME3 isn't even written by the same team, which apparently very few on this forum seems to comprehend, because they seem think that BioWare has only one big team that can work on only one game at a time.

[Aargh12]

I'm OK with bisexuals but i'm not OK with Bioware changing sexuality of old characters. I'm also not OK with every romance interest being bisexual.

[vanslyke85]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

I'm fine with it as long as the system allows me to do one of the following

A: Toggle it off
B: Not have me walk on eggshells to keep from hitting on someone.

On a side note, I hope that they establish homosexual/bisexuals, and not make the previous characters retroactively bi. It takes away from the story-telling when people have these rich backgrounds and personalities, yet their sexuality is whatever the user wants it to be.

Totally agree.  It was so frustrating with my femshep to have to be careful to not hit on Thane or Jacob.  They made it way too easy in ME2 for someone to fall for you.  And there needs to be more dialog options like in DA. 

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

I'd rather they focus on real character development than this superfluous nonsense.

[Blacklash93]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

I'd rather they focus on real character development than this superfluous nonsense.

They can't do both?

[Twilight_Princess]

I find that unless a character shouts "I'm straight I'm straight" people seem to think it's fair to insist they could be secretly bi, but if someone  used that same argument to insist a character couldn't be gay because they didn't officially announce their homosexuality loud and  clearly then it suddenly becomes rubbish argument.  I want there to be M/M romance in mass effect finally but I also think that established characters who have only shown interest to the opposite sex should have that part of them respected just as if they were gay. Bioware did goof during ME2 because THAT should have been the game our batch of LIs to show interest in both sexes, and with 6 romances? Yeah they did drop the ball by not having ONE gay/bi male in there.  

In fact I feel the same way about starting a romance with ME2 characters in ME3. Some crucial things happened during ME2 that needed to happen first for a reason. Tali and maleshep had to get the immune system problem worked out; Garrus and femshep had to work out the interspecies thing, maleshep got Jack to trust him for example.  The ME2 romance got the first obstacles out of the way so that the next instalment could concentrate on the romance development and not the interspecies complications or trust issues. So if you didn’t romance them in ME2 it would be odd to suddenly be able to romance them in 3 without these previous issues being brought up at all. My issue is more about the consistency of the characters and their stories.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 16 mai 2011 - 11:57 .

[Antivenger]

Just pointing it out here, Garrus and Tali were made romances because of the overwhelming number of players who wanted them as love interests.

AKA, Fan-service.

Very few people seemed to complain then, even though there were no signs of attraction in ME1 <_<

[Smeelia]

Antivenger wrote...

Just pointing it out here, Garrus and Tali were made romances because of the overwhelming number of players who wanted them as love interests.

AKA, Fan-service.

Very few people seemed to complain then, even though there were no signs of attraction in ME1 <_<

I thought they were written quite well and made sense (I wouldn't say the lack of obvious signs of attraction precludes the possibility of future attraction either, it can develop as you get to know someone).  Of course, my Male Shepard that I felt was a kind of father-figure to Tali did feel a little awkward when he realised she liked him in a different way but that just added to the fun (and the dialogue for letting her down was perfect, it's just a shame it's the last discussion).

I'm okay with more love interests, changes in preference and whatever else if it's well enough written and considered.  Let's face it, if you're willing to sleep with aliens in the first place you may not even realise if they're male or female and the difference between male and female in your own species seems much smaller by comparison.  Kelly's point of "it's personality that counts" makes a lot of sense in such a diverse society.

I'm just hoping that Mordin might change his mind, letting Shepard down easily was kind but still heartbreaking .

Modifié par Smeelia, 16 mai 2011 - 12:24 .

[crimzontearz]

ok

S/S relationships = Good

Retconning a character's sexuality because you have to have EVERYONE romanceable by both sexes = utter bs

yes everyone can say "they were always bi" but that's bs too

[Russalka]

Why is what happened to Anders a worse concern than Tali and Garrus?

Edited, I am so sleepy.

Modifié par Russalka, 16 mai 2011 - 12:29 .

[Shadedclan]

Well I think its great! Especially for those people who supported that one thread that requested for SS romance. Although I won't touch that part(maybe lesbians only). But don't have anything against gay people. I actually think gay people are a great part of the community.

[Whereto]

Blacklash93 wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Whereto wrote...
Wow, why does there need to be same sex romances... Like seriously, it doesn't add anything to the game, exept something for pre teens to laugh at.

Because apparently developers can be influenced by enough complaining or political correctness guilt trips. Adds nothing for the rest of us but if you don't like it you're a bigot.

It adds something to the game for a small minority of people. Is there anything wrong with that, though? It's not like you lose much at their gain.

And Bioware did not cave in. They could have ignored the gay community here and have been none the worse for it. It was their call the whole time.

So they waste development time on something that will only be laughed at by teenagers. Can you seriously tell me that putting these sort of relationships in a game is good. You can argue all you like that there is people in this community that are gay, and im fine with that, but they arent very large. If there was a larger community attatched to this, i would be fine with it, as it would serve a purpose, but like i said before, you just inviting people to laugh at these sort of relationships with such little gain that its pointless.