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[Bourne Endeavor]

InviolateNK wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...

Whereto wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...



There are less gay players than heterosexual ones, that's true. But saying that due to that fact allowing a male Shepard to romance other male characters is pointless and a waste of development time is kinda more than just a different opinion.

So allowing you to have a relationship with another guy or girl adds what to the game as a hole? beside of course the endless youtube clips and writing time that could other wise be used for different uses within the game. So sorry your troll claim is still unfounded and my lovely opinon is still relevant

It adds a ton of awesomeness to what is already the best rpg/action game already  There's a lot of games where your simply told what to do next and you go do it. Sam Fisher or Agent 47, for example. Their strictly straight in every possible meaning, they simply get another assignment and they do it. Final assignment -> game over. There's more to ME than that. Get it now?

While his opinion is admittedly poorly worded, it is not without merit.

English is not my native language. No need to get offensive right at the beginning of ur reply either way

You misinterpreted mate. I was saying that to the other poster, the one you called a troll, due to this post, while having a legitimate complaint, came across slightly homophobic.

Ryzaki wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

We already got confirmation that there's actual friendship paths now.
Which frankly was necessary. I shouldn't have to sleep with someone to get some additional backstory. That's weak. 

When was this, and could you provide a link? If so, then my concerns have been dealt with.

http://twitter.com/#...848012960174080

"#ME3 writing team has some great ideas for breaking the mold on char. interactions, which should add to non romance relationship."

Frankly I was getting sick of being forced to talk to only the males and Tali in ME1. 

Fantastic, then my concerns are set aside. Frankly, you and I both. Just replace Tali with Miranda on my male Shepard.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 16 mai 2011 - 02:25 .

[yesikareyes]

We need a strong narrative focus in some fashion. Sexual identities are important. Part of me says 'well i don't have to choose it' the other part of me is worried about the writing.

As I mentioned earlier, they should have established the sexual identities of each character earlier on in the trilogy. I'm straight and I wouldn't mind any homosexual characters and options as long as I have the choice not to pursue it. So since they have established all the characters, I really think it will have a negative effect on their character since there wasn't any subtle or obvious hint of any character's homosexuality in the past.

I also agree with the IGN thing you shared, that not all of them should be bisexual because in real life were all unique in orientation and it solidifies each characters personality more.

In summation, save this same sex idea for the next trilogy/installment of Mass Effect.

[solstickan]

If this prooves to be true, then HUZZAH for teh gayz/lesbos/etc! If a retcon is needed to spread more love/awesome in the world, then I welcome it (though I would hardly say a team member's falling in love with your Shep is one).

[TheAzureVanguard]

So who's gonna go that route and if so which male character would Shepard romance?

For me I'm sorta interested in Grunt and Kaidan. And hopefully they'll bring someone a few more interesting characters are choices for ME3.

Excellent news all around though.

[Valo_Soren]

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

So who's gonna go that route and if so which male character would Shepard romance?

For me I'm sorta interested in Grunt and Kaidan. And hopefully they'll bring someone a few more interesting characters are choices for ME3.

Excellent news all around though.

To be honest, I have no issue with homosexuality. I just hope for the people who choose the option it makes sense from a narrative stand point as to why male or fem shep would choose to become gay and they aren't given a cookie cutter's guide to gay sex. I won't pursue it myself as I have relationships to continue with my favorite ladies but I worry about the over all narrative.

[TheAzureVanguard]

Volus Warlord wrote...

mrsph wrote...

No, dude. It was Wrex.

Wrex has a mancrush on your Shepard.

Never played the first one, so Wrex is dead.

And if that was Wrex, I'd kill him.

So you'd klll a character because they are gay and you are uncomfortable with it?

Alright gotcha. Aren't you a shining example of a human being.

[Valo_Soren]

InviolateNK wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...

We need a strong narrative focus in some fashion. Sexual identities are important. Part of me says 'well i don't have to choose it' the other part of me is worried about the writing.

As I mentioned earlier, they should have established the sexual identities of each character earlier on in the trilogy. I'm straight and I wouldn't mind any homosexual characters and options as long as I have the choice not to pursue it. So since they have established all the characters, I really think it will have a negative effect on their character since there wasn't any subtle or obvious hint of any character's homosexuality in the past.

I also agree with the IGN thing you shared, that not all of them should be bisexual because in real life were all unique in orientation and it solidifies each characters personality more.

In summation, save this same sex idea for the next trilogy/installment of Mass Effect.

Spectres are above the law and other establishments (speaking of  newly bisexual Kaidan/Ash )  But then again, Casey said in his interview for xbox world that "there's no canon except what the player has chosen".
If you see them all as heterosexuals in your own playthrough, that's your right. BW just seem to be finally letting everyone make their canons as they really prefer it, not like male Shep is str8 only -> deal with it or don't play at all if you don't like it.


2 Bourne Endeavor: okay, peace [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

I actually meant to quote this with my last post, thats the one thing that keeps me from having an over all problem with this is that its a choose your own adventure world and you're right there is no real established canon lore, it is what you make of it, I just hope that the narrative doesn't suffer for players who choose gay relationships for Shepard mostly.

[TheAzureVanguard]

Valo_Soren wrote...

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

So who's gonna go that route and if so which male character would Shepard romance?

For me I'm sorta interested in Grunt and Kaidan. And hopefully they'll bring someone a few more interesting characters are choices for ME3.

Excellent news all around though.

To be honest, I have no issue with homosexuality. I just hope for the people who choose the option it makes sense from a narrative stand point as to why male or fem shep would choose to become gay and they aren't given a cookie cutter's guide to gay sex. I won't pursue it myself as I have relationships to continue with my favorite ladies but I worry about the over all narrative.

Well I have several shepards (both male and femail) who have romanced both males and females so I'm interested in the option. I already have plans for some of them to stay loyal to one character and others who may go after antoher charater.

That's part of the fun of Mass Effect me besides the story and gameplay. Its supposed to about role playing.

I find it absolutely hilarious and yet sad how that volus guy said he'd "Kill Wrex" if Wrex came onto him.

So basically you're saying you'd kill a gay person if they came on to you? Keep it classy guy

[Valo_Soren]

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

So who's gonna go that route and if so which male character would Shepard romance?

For me I'm sorta interested in Grunt and Kaidan. And hopefully they'll bring someone a few more interesting characters are choices for ME3.

Excellent news all around though.

To be honest, I have no issue with homosexuality. I just hope for the people who choose the option it makes sense from a narrative stand point as to why male or fem shep would choose to become gay and they aren't given a cookie cutter's guide to gay sex. I won't pursue it myself as I have relationships to continue with my favorite ladies but I worry about the over all narrative.

Well I have several shepards (both male and femail) who have romanced both males and females so I'm interested in the option. I already have plans for some of them to stay loyal to one character and others who may go after antoher charater.

That's part of the fun of Mass Effect me besides the story and gameplay. Its supposed to about role playing.

I find it absolutely hilarious and yet sad how that volus guy said he'd "Kill Wrex" if Wrex came onto him.

So basically you're saying you'd kill a gay person if they came on to you? Keep it classy guy

People are ignorant. I'm not 100 percent sure if they will allow relationships to happen with Krogans but yeah.

[Ryzaki]

Why would Wrex a thousand year old Krogan be interested in a welp like Shepard?

Some people are weird...

[Chewin]

Ryzaki wrote...

Why would Wrex a thousand year old Krogan be interested in a welp like Shepard?

I guess you don't know what that welp can do.

[Recon Member]

Chewin3 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Why would Wrex a thousand year old Krogan be interested in a welp like Shepard?

I guess you don't know what that welp can do.

+1

[kumquats]

My Shepards did it with everyone in ME2 and of course they will do it with everyone in ME3.
And Liara and Jack will never know it.
Savegames ftw.

[DeadLetterBox]

BioWare: We're gonna announce same sex relationship availability in ME3.

Chris Priestly: ... I need a raise.

[d-boy15]

as long as they don't make every LI in this game to be bi, I'm fine with it.

[SalsaDMA]

Valo_Soren wrote...

This obviously won't deter me from playing what is going to be the epic big bang ending for an epic trilogy of games.

From the sounds of it. the 'epic big bang' will be present, but it's not reapers that will be plowed through...

LI's from ME1, ME2 and now added bi's from ME3... When will shepard have time for the reapers?

[Mars Nova]

They'd better be optional. I heard about what happened in DA2 where you had no choice but to sleep with that one guy if you wanted his approval or whatever.

[alexmodessa]

For your consideration twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Modifié par alexmodessa, 16 mai 2011 - 04:09 .

[Luvinn]

They need more romance dialogue like DA:O....

Morrigan: Tis' cold in my tent all alone.
Me: Well, get a blanket!

No falling into a romance blindly!

@ Mars Nova: you didnt have to sleep with anders, you just had to flirt with him once to not lose friend points. He never pushed the issue after that if you didnt flirt again

Modifié par Luvinn, 16 mai 2011 - 04:14 .

[DeadLetterBox]

Mars Nova wrote...

They'd better be optional. I heard about what happened in DA2 where you had no choice but to sleep with that one guy if you wanted his approval or whatever.

Well, I actually played DA2, and that character just gained a handful of rivalry points if you rejected his advances.  For both genders.  He just didn't like rejection, and some people are like that.  You could still gain his approval, for all that it mattered in the end.  It's practically impossible to get everyone to like you in DA2 anyway.  Fenris is worse than Morrigan.

[Darkhour]

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm so happy that BioWare is SO ****IN AWESOME.
They ACTUALLY listen to their fanbase, and that's ...so...well, awesome.
I'm just happy I'll be able to have a 2nd playthrough and romance Tali with my FemShep.
AW YEAH!

What makes you think they are going to make everyone gay like DA2? Sounds to me like there will be new characters to pander to gays.

[hawat333]

I strongly oppose this idea and actually feel offended for the idea of a clearly straight character (like me, for example) suddenly turning into a bisexual one.
Shepard is a straight character, or at least it was, it's an interesting decision to change it on the fly. The first time I see it actually, but well, from ME1 to ME2 the world itself was changed, so whatever.

But pay attention to the development, I really want you guys to avoid the awkard and uncomfortable moments DA1-2 and Jade Empire provided. The majority of players is straight, and some of us feel uncomfortable if someone of the same sex starts hitting on us.
Include it, if that's your big idea to lure more audtion, but do it with consciously. Don't make me feeling uncomfortable for being straight, ok?

[SalsaDMA]

Darkhour wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm so happy that BioWare is SO ****IN AWESOME.
They ACTUALLY listen to their fanbase, and that's ...so...well, awesome.
I'm just happy I'll be able to have a 2nd playthrough and romance Tali with my FemShep.
AW YEAH!

What makes you think they are going to make everyone gay like DA2? Sounds to me like there will be new characters to pander to gays.

Which makes it a loose-loose situation.

Introduce new characters, just to indulge the homosexual minority => people that favour characters from earlier games that get pushed out feels belittled because their character gets the shaft (the literary one, not the literal one which the new ones will get).

Change old characters, just to indulge the homosexual minority => people that favour the changed characters as how they used to be feels belittled because their character virtually ceases to exists as they had them envisioned.

No matter how they do it, with the info we've gotten so far of overall decisions they are making, someone looses out because of it. Especially because working on that, means they aren't working on something else, like enrichening the lore in general or increasing usage of the variables gathered in meaningfull and consequential ways.

[Darkhour]

hawat333 wrote...

I strongly oppose this idea and actually feel offended for the idea of a clearly straight character (like me, for example) suddenly turning into a bisexual one.
Shepard is a straight character, or at least it was, it's an interesting decision to change it on the fly. The first time I see it actually, but well, from ME1 to ME2 the world itself was changed, so whatever.

But pay attention to the development, I really want you guys to avoid the awkard and uncomfortable moments DA1-2 and Jade Empire provided. The majority of players is straight, and some of us feel uncomfortable if someone of the same sex starts hitting on us.
Include it, if that's your big idea to lure more audtion, but do it with consciously. Don't make me feeling uncomfortable for being straight, ok?

DA:O wasn't bad.  Zevran says your handsome. You tell him he's barking up the wrong tree. He leaves you alone. That's the extent of it. Everything else is a choice.

DA2: EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IS GAY. ALL THE PROSTITUTES ARE GAY MEN. ALL YOUR MALE COMPANIONS ARE GAY. SOMETIMES YOUR CHOICE IS TO BE AN ASS OR FLIRT WITH A DUDE.

I don't think the ME writters will comprimise their characters or the believablity of their fictional world because 1% of the population wants to force their sexuality down the other 99%'s throat. No pun intended.

Modifié par Darkhour, 16 mai 2011 - 04:50 .