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[Snakenole]

So I feel stupid even asking this, but I tried to find it by searching and couldn't come up with anything. Are the sex scenes in DAII watered down compared to Origins? I've only romanced one character so far and the screen just went black before anything happened. They just kissed and then it sort of faded away. Same with at the Blooming Rose. In Origins they at least showed them fooling around. Not that I get my jollies watching video game characters do it, but it seems like they made this one rate G, instead of PG-13. I thought maybe it was a setting in options but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[whykikyouwhy]

The scenes all fade to black, I believe. Probably for various reasons (lots of complaints re: Origins, possibly). I think there are mods out there that fill in the blanks though (so to speak).

[Thokundin]

I personally like the new system,, its way better than the awkward half dressed movements from DAO

[Pandaman102]

I think this explains it: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/481

[MorrigansLove]

I personally think they should get out of their own arse, and just show us a passionate, mature love scene in their games already.

[PSUHammer]

Some scenes show the lead up to the event, then fade to black. Interesting that designers chose to be tame in that area yet bodies explode if you poke them throughout the game.

[haroldhardluck]

MorrigansLove wrote...
I personally think they should get out of their own arse, and just show us a passionate, mature love scene in their games already.

Then the game loses its under 18 rating and that is a significant cut into sales. As it is, many of the dialog and scenes are actually quite dirty if you know the dirty jokes that they are based on. There is one scene with Isabella where it starts with her giving the punch line to a classic dirty joke that still cannot be told on TV.

Harold

[MorrigansLove]

I thought Dragon Age 2 was an 18 certificate?

[tmp7704]

Snakenole wrote...

Not that I get my jollies watching video game characters do it, but it seems like they made this one rate G, instead of PG-13. I thought maybe it was a setting in options but that doesn't seem to be the case.

There was number of complaints how the DAO scenes were silly because it was "characters dry-humping in their undies".

So they kept the undies but removed the dry-humping part. Sort of an opposite of what was typical suggestion to follow those complaints, but oh well.

[KnightofPhoenix]

After the controversy for Mass Effect's *gasp* side boob, I wouldn't expect well done sex scenes in the short future (even though controversy is sometimes good. Attracts media attention).

Apparently the Witcher 2 will have fully nude and visible sex scenes. We'll see how that goes.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 15 mai 2011 - 11:44 .

[bleetman]

Remember: Internal organs good. External organs bad. Don't even mention them, lest you draw the ire of the Fox News crowd.

Decapitation is apparently more acceptable to depict than breasts, for some reason I've yet to decipher. People are weird.

Modifié par bleetman, 15 mai 2011 - 11:48 .

[Nixter Shepard]

Fox News hates sideboobs... what can we say... it's Fox News, were we expecting them to be fair and balanced?

[Abispa]

I'm no prude and I'd love to see Phil Phoglio do a XXXenophile style comic set in the DA universe, but I'd rather have the DA2 style scenes instead of characters grinding with their underwear on (especially ridiculous is Morrigan since her underwear is less risque than her armor), or *shudder* the Shepard dry humping Jack into submission scene in ME2.

[Melca36]

Its funny how some of these people who protested the sex scenes in Mass Effect are probably the same ones who want to see Osama Bin Laden's death pictures.

[Rifneno]

bleetman wrote...

Remember: Internal organs good. External organs bad. Don't even mention them, lest you draw the ire of the Fox News crowd.

Decapitation is apparently more acceptable to depict than breasts, for some reason I've yet to decipher. People are weird.

I used to know this guy that worked in a movie theater.  Said every now and again, some idiot would ask him if whatever horror film was playing had any nudity because they wanted to know if it was okay to take their kids to it.  ...  *checks watch*  I wish the damn Reapers would get here already.

[bleetman]

Melca36 wrote...

Its funny how some of these people who protested the sex scenes in Mass Effect are probably the same ones who want to see Osama Bin Laden's death pictures.

What made it funnier was when they admitted to never having seen the sex scenes in Mass Effect prior to their outrage.

[TEWR]

MorrigansLove wrote...
I personally think they should get out of their own arse, and just show us a passionate, mature love scene in their games already.

THIS

haroldhardluck wrote...

Then the game loses its under 18 rating and that is a significant cut into sales. As it is, many of the dialog and scenes are actually quite dirty if you know the dirty jokes that they are based on. There is one scene with Isabella where it starts with her giving the punch line to a classic dirty joke that still cannot be told on TV.

Harold

The game is meant for mature audiences only, and frankly if you're not 17 you shouldn't have these games. 17 year olds can handle this stuff. 8 year olds shouldn't even come close to it.

Mother: You shouldn't be showing sex to our kids in these games! I bought him this game and I learn it has sex in it?!
Game Company: So, you bought your son a video game of your own volition that clearly says on the back "Rated M for Mature. Contains violence, nudity, alcohol", and whatever else and you're blaming us for exposing it to your kids? Riiiight....

[Nepenthe87]

If the game had a full-fledged sex scene in it then it would be given an A/O rating.

No major distributor (gamestop, best buy, walmart) puts A/O games on their shelves. You'd never see the game anywhere if the series were A/O.

they'd have to literrally distribute the game themselves to get it out and that would be incredibly hard.

It would sell 50,000 copies at most and be a complete and utter failure.

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 16 mai 2011 - 01:48 .

[Knight of Dane]

I would like it to be improved very much.
When games can contain bloodsplatter, beheading and hints of rape when talking to mages in the Gallows they should be able to deliver a proper love scene when one of the few tender moments arrive in this game.

Fading it to black is just a huge let down, i do not wish for it to be porno as such, but let us see them show some skin, tumble around a little bit SHOW US THE LOVE!
The relationships in DA:2 is just: Kiss and a happy ever after, i think it's about time the mature games started getting conent that qualifies for that rating.

[Plaintiff]

People are much more opposed to sex in video games (and media in general) than they are to violence. It doesn't make any sense, but there you go.

Personally, I vastly prefer the way DA2 handled it. Each encounter is unique to the companion you're having it with. The "sex" in Origins was clumsy and awkward to watch, especially with that music. By comparison, the scenes in DA2 feel a lot more natural and fading to black doesn't affect them negatively in any way.

Would it be so awful to actually show the characters doing the horizontal mambo? No, but if the sex is your main concern in a videogame, then you're buying it for the wrong reasons.

[Nepenthe87]

I'd say people are more opposed to sex in media because kids are more likely (and already "equipped") to have sex with each other than they are to try and kill each other. Sex in the media would have a seemingly more prominent effect than violence because people already have a biological urge to procreate. essentially it's trying to stifle as much of that sexual urge that pubescant children have as possible.

I don't think either should be exposed in the wrong contexts to children who might not understand the consequences of either one, but I can understand why they'd want to limit sex more than violence. But I also see our sexually repressed society would rather have us all thinking we are ken and barbie dolls until we hit the age of 18, instead of treating sex like the normal human function it is.

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 16 mai 2011 - 02:10 .

[TEWR]

One of the main problems is how parents cater to the temper tantrum whims of their children just to avoid a scene in Wal-Mart, Gamestop, Best Buy, etc.

I'm not saying show us a scene where everyone is naked and doing it in every hole they can find, but definitely give us a classy scene with some skin before fading to black. Or at least show them in the process of taking off the clothes.

Sex is normal. It's a part of humanity just like anything else.

[Nepenthe87]

I personally thought the the origins "culmination" scenes were pretty tasteful and well done. Sure the characters were blocky and robotic but the setting/emotion/mood were all in place. Nothing was raunchy about it and the camera angles were romatic in a way.

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 16 mai 2011 - 02:08 .

[Plaintiff]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

One of the main problems is how parents cater to the temper tantrum whims of their children just to avoid a scene in Wal-Mart, Gamestop, Best Buy, etc.

I'm not saying show us a scene where everyone is naked and doing it in every hole they can find, but definitely give us a classy scene with some skin before fading to black. Or at least show them in the process of taking off the clothes.

Sex is normal. It's a part of humanity just like anything else.

I'm not opposed to more graphic sex scenes in video games, but I think it's unfair to put the pressure on Bioware when nobody else is really making a great leap ahead in this issue.

Sex being 'normal'  isn't really an argument for including it. Paying taxes and taking a leak are normal, but video games rarely show those either. What's the real benefit to showing more skin? Would it add to the game in a meaningful way? The mature sexual themes are already present.

It's odd to me that people in this thread are associating nudity to 'maturity'. That's rarely the case, I find. Bayonetta, for instance, is a highly sexualized videogame and nudity, or near-nudity is shown on a frequent basis, but despite its "mature" rating, it's actually quite a juvenile game in terms of its treatment of the subject matter. DA2 is already a much more 'adult' game, even though the characters stay dressed throughout.

[JordanDH]

No one's saying have everyone walk around naked the entire time. But wouldn't it be more mature to show some nudity where appropriate than either of the extremes? Than to coddle us and protect us from the evil that is skin, or to shove breasts in our faces and hope we don't notice how out of place it is?