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jpace335 wrote...

They've already said that they want to continue making ME-world games after ME3. Why not put out a dating sim for their extra ideas so everyone's happy? ME3's already shaping up to be one.


Because romance without plot is pointless. The fact it's about the characters progression and romance is only one potential arc of progression.

You can easily go through the game single. So, uh, what's the problem?

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jpace335 wrote...

I just don't want to be in a conversation to further the plot and be met by come-ons in response. Happened with jack in ME2. Just trying to be polite, ****.


You must be an absolute JOY to interact with IRL...

pace: "Hey, where's the nearest gas station?"
local: "Oh, about 2 miles up the road...why don't you stick around a bit and fill MY tank first though?" *winkwink*
pace: "****** off."  *punch to the face*

You can't control who is attracted to you (for whatever silly reason they are) in real life, why does it bother you so much when you can't control it in a game (that is supposed to have character interactions approximating real life, to within a degree allowed by current game tech)?

Modifié par Sekhem, 16 mai 2011 - 12:15 .


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Shadow_Soul wrote...

You have the option to stay single, so if you don't want to romance anybody, don't. They aren't forcing Shepard to hook up with anybody. It's really the players choice.
I, however, like the romances, and I am glad BioWare included them. I want my Sheps' relationships to continue.


This!

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Let's please try to keep this conversation civil and avoid the cheap jibes against other posters, please.

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Eradyn wrote...

You mean your other boyfriend, right? Because...Garrus <3

Hell, he's a Talimancer, so he deserves the full brunt of my merciless fangirling.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 16 mai 2011 - 12:20 .


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I'm just trying to voice my opinion with valid points. I have not directly insulted any person here or anywhere. You are taking my examples as firm assertions.

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This is 2011. Mass Effect 3 is coming out in 2012. This is **NOT** 1997. 

Games have to evolve. This sort of thing adds depth, its shapes the characters.
You also have to keep in mind the gaming demographic has changed.  More women and older people play games now.

If we wanted to play a straight full on shooter, we wouldn't be here. We'd be psyched for Duke Nukem Forever.

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Just answer this, please: If ME3 was released with all of the promised gameplay/story elements but had absolutely no romance options at all, would you not buy the game?

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Shadow_Soul wrote...

You have the option to stay single, so if you don't want to romance anybody, don't. They aren't forcing Shepard to hook up with anybody. It's really the players choice.
I, however, like the romances, and I am glad BioWare included them. I want my Sheps' relationships to continue.


Thing is, Bioware has a habit of making it relatively difficult to not fall into a relationship that you didn't want to. Liara, Ashley (Quit calling me Skipper!), and Jacob all come to mind. Garrus was pretty clear (albeit blunt).

I agree with you in theory, just I have qualms with Bioware's execution sometimes.

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jpace335 wrote...

Just answer this, please: If ME3 was released with all of the promised gameplay/story elements but had absolutely no romance options at all, would you not buy the game?


Yes. I can't save the world in real-life, but I can **** a girl with a bucket on her head :whistle:

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jpace335 wrote...

Just answer this, please: If ME3 was released with all of the promised gameplay/story elements but had absolutely no romance options at all, would you not buy the game?


You obviously are very young. When you get older you will understand that these elements add depth to games.

They are not the focus. It shapes the characters. 

Did you register here to just complain about this?

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jpace, you would have valid point if you could back up your allegations with things that we actually know are going to be in ME3.  As far as I see, you're just talking about worst-case scenarios and what BioWare might do do shoot itself in the foot.

Yeah, BioWare shoving romances down our throat would suck.  But they haven't done that yet, and despite the fact that they say that romances will be expanded in ME3, we have no idea what that entails.  It could mean that they're trying to bring the romances to a satisfying conclusion in some way or another.  It could mean that your entire squad is comprised of prostitutes.  Honestly, we don't know, but as even you said, they pulled it off well in the first two games.

Have some faith, bro.

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In response to Melca, yes. I only registered today to discuss this. And I have to call in to question your assumption that I do not understand the finer points of storytelling, plot, etc.
As I have already said, I liked ME1 and 2 just the way they were. Your assumption that I must be some young CoD kiddy because I have a problem with Bioware's decision to flood ME3 with more romance. I just think that there is a point where enough is enough.

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Fact is have you ever watched a giant blockbuster action movie without a romance. Has never happened in history. Especially sic-fi, it adds dimension, gives you something personal to fight for, and the best part if you don't like it, Don't Have One. Brilliant

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Unlike many haters, I think Bioware will pull through with a great game that (hopefully) ends a trilogy. You realize that at this point much about the game is open to speculation. I am only showing concern for what is likely to happen, since Hudson has already said it is very likely to be included.

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I was really glad when I heard that ME3 was likely to have more non-romance dialogue with the crew than ME2. You know, more like ME1. I'm just bracing for the worst.

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Alpha-Centuri wrote...

Shadow_Soul wrote...

You have the option to stay single, so if you don't want to romance anybody, don't. They aren't forcing Shepard to hook up with anybody. It's really the players choice.
I, however, like the romances, and I am glad BioWare included them. I want my Sheps' relationships to continue.


Thing is, Bioware has a habit of making it relatively difficult to not fall into a relationship that you didn't want to. Liara, Ashley (Quit calling me Skipper!), and Jacob all come to mind. Garrus was pretty clear (albeit blunt).

I agree with you in theory, just I have qualms with Bioware's execution sometimes.

"Skipper" is a naval term used to reference the commanding officer of a ship.

Just thought you'd like to know.:whistle:

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jpace335 wrote...

In response to Melca, yes. I only registered today to discuss this. And I have to call in to question your assumption that I do not understand the finer points of storytelling, plot, etc.
As I have already said, I liked ME1 and 2 just the way they were. Your assumption that I must be some young CoD kiddy because I have a problem with Bioware's decision to flood ME3 with more romance. I just think that there is a point where enough is enough.

so in your opinion there should be no romance in ME3 what so ever? 
that makes no sense to the rest of us here and you signed up to the wrong place to seek allies to get rid of it

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The fact is that the whole romance thing has gotten out of control. Look at the first page of these boards. Count the # of topics related to romancing something. There are constantly people who want to romance somebody they currently can't so they whine and complain until they get their way. It's frustrating at best, especially when you consider the fact that Bioware could be adding real, meaningful, gameplay or story related content instead of pleasing special interest groups who want to sleep with an elcor, or want Kaidan to suddenly turn gay.

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N7Armada wrote...

Fact is have you ever watched a giant blockbuster action movie without a romance. Has never happened in history. Especially sic-fi, it adds dimension, gives you something personal to fight for, and the best part if you don't like it, Don't Have One. Brilliant


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"Skipper" is a naval term used to reference the commanding officer of a ship.

Just thought you'd like to know.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]


Oh I know. But she doesn't call you that until you romance her. So then I get upset. Thus, "Quit calling me skipper"!

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 16 mai 2011 - 12:58 .


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Melca36 wrote...
If we wanted to play a straight full on shooter, we wouldn't be here. We'd be psyched for Duke Nukem Forever.


Actually, I'm just as excited for that as for ME3

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ninja, the whole time I said that romance was fine the way it was. Please don't jump to conclusions.

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Sometimes less is more.
People are talking about how it adds deep here but I really couldn't see it in the second game. I thought the ME2 romances, and relationships in general, were very shallow because of this.

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jpace335 wrote...
Just answer this, please: If ME3 was released with all of the promised gameplay/story elements but had absolutely no romance options at all, would you not buy the game?


Your question is full of supposition in it, just simply take out one of the main factor out of the game will just make your look like a narrow-minded gamer.

If they want to exclude the romance in ME, Bioware should do it from the beginning. Once the romances are in the story, it becomes a part of story. Even so, you still have a choice to ignore those romance and carry on your story. If you are suggesting Bioware not spend more resources on romance but to the story backbone, it make no sense at all.

Speaking up and express how you feel about the game is always welcome, but delining to see what make ME a great game is just lose others respects to you....

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jpace335 wrote...

ninja, the whole time I said that romance was fine the way it was. Please don't jump to conclusions.

the only conclusions I see being jumped are yours thinking that after the first 2 games suddenly the 3rd is going to be drastically differen, pertaining to romancest. So right back at you.

Modifié par BeardedNinja, 16 mai 2011 - 01:03 .