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[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Firky wrote...

@SoL. Oh, sorry, I meant NM as nightmare. (I've been spending too long reading the strategy forum.) I think you mean it as normal. I totally respect that people play it on normal and are looking for something besides combat.

I'm annoyed at myself for getting drawn in. Again. (But, personally, I do think combat on the harder difficulties is something I would defend to the hilt. With a few niggles remaining.)

Gahh, yes, sorry, I do mean Normal Mode. Is it called that in DA2, or Casual? Blargh.

I would get squished easily on nightmare, methinks


Edit: Damn, I thought it was odd that you said you loved HARD but found NORMAL more challenging. My brain is not working, it would seem...

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 16 mai 2011 - 11:14 .

[fchopin]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Started 7, completed 0.

At least you tried...

[Skilled Seeker]

Thought so Shadow of Light Dragon You cannot survive Nightmare controlling only Hawke if you don't set up appropriate tactics.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 16 mai 2011 - 11:17 .

[Skilled Seeker]

No need to kite. Would you tell someone to kite on DAO? It works there too.

[Skilled Seeker]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

No need to kite. Would you tell someone to kite on DAO? It works there too.

No. Becaues in that one, I could actually set up a formidable strategy. And there were no waves that spawned right behind my healer in every single encounter. Not to mention that CQC wasn't the only option, there weas a skill called "Trap-making".

Never needed to touch traps, too busy spamming the countless AoE attacks and chugging down potions. DAO's combat is far more weak and exploitable than DA2's period. I've made my case for formidable strategies, you refuse to listen.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 16 mai 2011 - 11:29 .

[Kevin Lynch]

Pedophille wrote...

I started a new playthrough 4 times and only bothered to complete 3 of it. The dungeons were just too repetitive for me. It gets boring after going through the same dungeon every other quests.

Started and completed three runs through the game, each with a different class and mix of companions. I'll wait and see what sort of expansion to the game comes along to decide whether I'll dive back in.

[Firky]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Gahh, yes, sorry, I do mean Normal Mode. Is it called that in DA2, or Casual? Blargh.

I would get squished easily on nightmare, methinks

Haha. I was actually a little worried for a second there, when you I thought you said that you found it easy on nightmare. (Because I take your word as gospel on all things Dragon Age, and I was about to ask for some tips.) 

I can understand why Laidlaw's quote was miscontrued and that "dumbing down" is an ambigous term and (IMO) not the best one to ask in an interview. How combat is structured is one thing, and it's not without its problems here and there. But, saying the harder difficulties are easy is like a red rag to a bull to me.

(As is criticising Laidlaw, but that's at least partly because I like the guy and, having interviewed him three times, know how these things work. In written interviews like this, there is always something lost in translation.)

[StreetlightEagle]

I've played it once and I really can't be bothered to play it through again. Nothing in the game makes me want to wade through all the crap. That is seriously ridiculous considering I finished Origins 5 times.

[outlaw1109]

Started 8-10 (deleted a few, so am unsure).
Have still only finished one.  Can't get over flaws.  thought about bending the disk a little to make it into an ashtray, but haven't yet because I keep thinking that there's something I'm missing and that I should give it another try.  I could still be in denial.
Just so you guys know, according to the Doctors that run Bioware, they were pretty much satisfied with what happened with DA2 (Link) so it isn't all Laidlaw's fault...
Removed DA2 registration from BSN out of shame...

Edit

Just for clarification, the link is to an interview for ME3, but GI asked a question about DA2 and the doctors replied saying that sales were a lot "faster" with DA2 than with Origins.  IMO, that might have something to do with the BAGILLION? preorders sold on the premise that this was a sequel to Origins...lol @ unintended joke.  (sales were faster aka STREAMLINED, at least I laughed when I re-read my post...

Modifié par outlaw1109, 16 mai 2011 - 12:45 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

No need to kite. Would you tell someone to kite on DAO? It works there too.

No. Becaues in that one, I could actually set up a formidable strategy. And there were no waves that spawned right behind my healer in every single encounter. Not to mention that CQC wasn't the only option, there weas a skill called "Trap-making".

Never needed to touch traps, no busy spamming the countless AoE attacks and chugging down potions. DAO's combat is far more weak and exploitable than DA2's period. I've made my case for formidable strategies, you refuse to listen.

But the option was there. Granted, I could just spam Storm of The Century. But i'd rather have Shale/Alistair attract all the aggro, then lead he enemies into a trap. My DW rogue then backstabs with poison-coated weapons, Morrigan bombs them with Paralysis Explosion, Entropic Death, and Storm of The Century.

Exactly, my point is there are strategies for DA2 as well, but you refuse to learn as then you might actually have some fun! My other point being DAO's combat is far more exploitable than DA2's as it was balanced ****** poorly and had retarded AI that would stand there and die because I was attacking them from a different room.

[Siven80]

Started 3, completed 1. Replaying DAO whiel i wait for Wtcher 2 (the new trailers alone are worth paying for).

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

@Skilled Seeker: Haha, yes, I have read a little bit about Nightmare. It looks like it lives up to its name.

@Alistairlover94: Nahh, I'll stick with Normal I'm a story/character-driven gamer...combat is fun and has its place, but it's not what I play RPGs for. (Actually, I like story-based combats, but random encounters popping up absolutely everywhere get tedious for me.)

@Firky: *laugh* Yeah, I think my tips would have been 'Except for potions and Anders' healing, let the computer handle your tactics.' ;D

Criticising random inverview comments is all too easy, I think, especially when there's so much bitterness (still!) hanging around. :/ I do think people can disagree with topics without crucifying each other, but not everyone's interested in playing nice.

[Phaedros]

Just the once. Once too much..

[Tommy6860]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

No need to kite. Would you tell someone to kite on DAO? It works there too.

No. Becaues in that one, I could actually set up a formidable strategy. And there were no waves that spawned right behind my healer in every single encounter. Not to mention that CQC wasn't the only option, there weas a skill called "Trap-making".

Never needed to touch traps, no busy spamming the countless AoE attacks and chugging down potions. DAO's combat is far more weak and exploitable than DA2's period. I've made my case for formidable strategies, you refuse to listen.

But the option was there. Granted, I could just spam Storm of The Century. But i'd rather have Shale/Alistair attract all the aggro, then lead he enemies into a trap. My DW rogue then backstabs with poison-coated weapons, Morrigan bombs them with Paralysis Explosion, Entropic Death, and Storm of The Century.

Exactly, my point is there are strategies for DA2 as well, but you refuse to learn as then you might actually have some fun! My other point being DAO's combat is far more exploitable than DA2's as it was balanced ****** poorly and had retarded AI that would stand there and die because I was attacking them from a different room.

There's very little strategy to DA2 and near zero ability to use tactics. The combat speed, teleporting and heavenly drops of enemies all but make this near impossible. Just hit the auto-attack and have your tank stonewall FTW. In Origins, the enemies already were on the maps and used different tactics instead of DA2 style waves where they all seem to rush you. Even the enemy bowmen in Origins would move to a different area if you got close to them so as to keep shooting. Not only that, if you melee them they switch to their melee weapons. not hit you with their bows, whereas the bowmen in DA2 just try and shoot you point blank or do this one slow melee swing, then back to shooting again.. Talk about bad AI.

[Tommy6860]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

@Skilled Seeker: Haha, yes, I have read a little bit about Nightmare. It looks like it lives up to its name.

@Alistairlover94: Nahh, I'll stick with Normal I'm a story/character-driven gamer...combat is fun and has its place, but it's not what I play RPGs for. (Actually, I like story-based combats, but random encounters popping up absolutely everywhere get tedious for me.)

@Firky: *laugh* Yeah, I think my tips would have been 'Except for potions and Anders' healing, let the computer handle your tactics.' ;D

Criticising random inverview comments is all too easy, I think, especially when there's so much bitterness (still!) hanging around. :/ I do think people can disagree with topics without crucifying each other, but not everyone's interested in playing nice.

I didn't find NM hard, just tedious since the enemies were uber-healthed drones that did little else for AI. If I got tired of trying to kill them, I would lower the difficulty, or I would just do kiting with my tank doing stonewall. If the AI would adjust to my tactics, then NM would be real hard, but as such it is just tedious.

No crucifying here, not my style. 

[Skilled Seeker]

I give up. Clearly no one watched the vids I linked and it's funny how you all pretend to know the combat system inside out and yet I never see you in the gameplay or builds forum. If you bothered to read some threads there, you'd see the depth the DA2 system has. Keep yourselves ignorant, you won't enjoy the game, and that's the way you seem to like it.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

God of War is a pretty slick RPG. Don't know why you bag it so much.

I mean, roleplaying as Kratos was awe.... was awes... was aweso...

Roleplaying as Kratos was pretty cool.

IMO, there's quite a bit of depth to Dragon Age 2's combat mechanics, but AFAIK, not much in terms of it's encounter design.

The problem for a lot of people lies in how the combat mechanics more resemble a mish mash of WoW and Dynasty Warriors. There's actually quite a bit of depth imo, and overall, I do like the quite a bit of the combat mechanics of Dragon Age 2. But I can understand why people don't think that it's tactically inclined.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 16 mai 2011 - 12:22 .

[william.munden]

no playthroughs i played about 2 hours then uninstalled it from my pc i have played DAO about 3 times and will play it again in future but i will never play DA2.

[Teddie Sage]

Only had one playthrough with a rogue, stopped playing as a mage. Restarted as a rogue, then unplugged my PS3 once the PSN outage game.

[outlaw1109]

Just as a slight aside:

Love the second link in your sig, Alistair Lover

also, wasn't being critical of the interview, just making a statement...

Modifié par outlaw1109, 16 mai 2011 - 12:43 .