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[ElitePinecone]

Someone With Mass wrote...

So, Vega is going to be a gay, ignorant footballer on steroids...

Can't say that sounds appealing.

Eh?

[Someone With Mass]

Mesina2 wrote...
Well at the time he was Sanders.

So they'll change his model as well?


Also how's he an ignorant?

Well, considering that he's there to help the newcomers get into the game, by knowing almost nothing about what happens outside Alliance space, I'd say that can be classified as ignorant.

The description of him was pretty much a footballer on steroids.

And many people here seems to want him to be a gay guy for the sake of S/S romances.

[Ghost Warrior]

bald man in a boat wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

It's funny... when I first started reading this thread, I was against the current LIs becoming bisexual.

People arguing against current LIs being bisexual have totally changed my mind on that front.

I don't even like M/M romances but after many arguements against it, I might do 13th Shepard in ME3 that is going gay.

So now you are for it...out of spite?

Would that upset you?

Nope,you acting like a children makes you look bad.

[Captain Crash]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'd say that can be classified as ignorant.

The description of him was pretty much a footballer on steroids.

Seems to me your jumping to conclusions on unfounded stereotypes

[Someone With Mass]

Captain Crash wrote...
Seems to me your jumping to conclusions on unfounded stereotypes

No, really. That's how the article described him.

[ElitePinecone]

Captain Crash wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'd say that can be classified as ignorant.

The description of him was pretty much a footballer on steroids.

Seems to me your jumping to conclusions on unfounded stereotypes

I agree, to a point.

Even assuming Vega is an s/s option, which we don't know, all we've been told is that he's a practical soldeir with little experience in galactic politics or the state of interspecies relations. 

Calling him ignorant would be like calling Udina ignorant because he doesn't know how to fire a rifle or run, or punch (heh). 

I think people are just jumping on the Vega wagon because they desperately don't want their "OMG BRO GARRUS" to be open for s/s romances. Which I highly doubt he would be. 

If or when other characters are revealed, people may likely be clamouring for them to be the s/s option instead of Vega. 

Just sit back and enjoy the rollercoaster ride  

[JediMB]

Saeran wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

ME_Fan wrote...

If people are going to be gay, I say it should just be this James Sanders, Liara and Jack. (Jack because being bisexual would kinda fit with her sexually liberal attitude)

I agree. By the way,it's not Sanders anymore,now it's Vega.

That would go against Jack's predetermined character though! She isn't interested in playing in the girls club anymore.

"Girls club" = sitting around and gossiping

She's just saying that she doesn't want to talk anymore.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

It's funny... when I first started reading this thread, I was against the current LIs becoming bisexual.

People arguing against current LIs being bisexual have totally changed my mind on that front.

I don't even like M/M romances but after many arguements against it, I might do 13th Shepard in ME3 that is going gay.

So now you are for it...out of spite?

No, just that a lot of people have come here with arguments so poorly-reasoned that they are anti-convincing. Like if I were reading a book and someone came by and said "oh, I love that book! It's where I learned that the clockwork in our teeth makes us all forget high school German!" I'd probably start... reconsidering the value of that book.

At first I didn't want a situation where everyone revealed themselves to be bi because everyone being bisexual would interfere with my suspension of disbelief. I thought ok, maybe one or two of the old squad might be bi... still, nobody can agree on which one or two would make the most sense, so the safest bet is to introduce a few new same-sex-exclusive love interests. (possibly with an official "no gender flag" mode to achieve what the modders do with modding - out of continuity head-canon romances.) 

Then, as people came in here shouting "It is a fact that X is straight because he once looked at a girl," and other things that were far, far worse, my feelings began to shift. I already believed that it was reasonable to assume guys who liked girls were probably straight, but to claim it was a fact showed immense arrogance. People said it would ruin the games, destroy Bioware, etc, and  I thought.. my god, do I sound like that? When I say "it would disturb my suspension of disbelief" am I being that selfish and aggro? Maybe and maybe not, but sheesh.

I still think that the best option is a few new s/s exclusive romances, no new straight romances whatsoever, and a patch or option that makes all romances available to their non-canon gender, outside of canon, just for fun. But now I realize that most of the crazier people would be just as enraged by that as by any other possibility. So everything seems hopeless.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 18 mai 2011 - 11:53 .

[Captain Crash]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...
Seems to me your jumping to conclusions on unfounded stereotypes

No, really. That's how the article described him.

I know, but how does that make him ignorant?

Seems to me you have a preconception in your mind and are jumping to irrational conclusions based on very little information. Exactly how does being "a footballer on steroids" instantly make him ignorant?


Im fairly sure that any new squad mate has the potential to be S/S romancable. But thats not necessarily the case.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 18 mai 2011 - 11:40 .

[CroGamer002]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Well, considering that he's there to help the newcomers get into the game, by knowing almost nothing about what happens outside Alliance space, I'd say that can be classified as ignorant.

Oh, that's what meant by that.
But how's that a bad character trait? I find it really amusing.

The description of him was pretty much a footballer on steroids.

Aveline is a tank as well, she doesn't seem to be on steroids.

And many people here seems to want him to be a gay guy for the sake of S/S romances.

Many want Garrus for M/M romance just for the sake of having one.

[CroGamer002]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Nope,you acting like a children makes you look bad.

I agree on that one but I'm not doing M/M romance out of spite to some people, they're just making me more intrested into M/M romance.

Same for Jacob, more real hate for him makes him more intresting to me.

Modifié par Mesina2, 18 mai 2011 - 11:42 .

[CroGamer002]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...
Seems to me your jumping to conclusions on unfounded stereotypes

No, really. That's how the article described him.

They just said he looks like that, while he was still called Sames Sanders, and that he's a tank.

Not saying much.

[Illeuad]

I can easily see Kaidan admitting to having feelings for M!Shep, that tirade he comes up with in ME2 seems very emotion fuelled.

Shep practically ripped through and changed his life in ME1, then disappeared for 3 years. I definitely think soul searching and dwelling on Shep for all that time could definitely allow Kaidan to realise feelings for his old commander.



Of course, the M|M interest could just be a new team member .That or Samara has a surprise peen. lol.

Modifié par Illeuad, 18 mai 2011 - 11:57 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

Illeuad wrote...

I can easily see Kaidan admitting to having feelings for M!Shep, that tirade he comes up with in ME2 seems very emotion fuelled.

Shep practically ripped through and changed his life in ME1, then disappeared for 3 years. I definitely think soul searching and dwelling on Shep for all that time could definitely allow Kaidan to realise feelings for his old commander.
 

I smell kaiden romantic-mance with fluffy toys and stuff, alongside james sanders 'hot-steamy-straight-in'-mance.

[HolyMoogle]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

bald man in a boat wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

It's funny... when I first started reading this thread, I was against the current LIs becoming bisexual.

People arguing against current LIs being bisexual have totally changed my mind on that front.

I don't even like M/M romances but after many arguements against it, I might do 13th Shepard in ME3 that is going gay.

So now you are for it...out of spite?

Would that upset you?

Nope,you acting like a children makes you look bad.

Oh please.

The quality of the arguments against S/S romances and/or existing characters revealing more about themselves is enough to make anybody run screaming for the nearest all-night shirtless-friendly house music club

[paptschik]

HolyMoogle wrote...

Oh please.

The quality of the arguments against S/S romances and/or existing characters revealing more about themselves is enough to make anybody run screaming for the nearest all-night shirtless-friendly house music club

But to be fair, the ever popular "They never said they weren't bi" argument isn't that great either.

[The Uncanny]

paptschik wrote...

But to be fair, the ever popular "They never said they weren't bi" argument isn't that great either.

It isn't?

*scratches head*

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

It's not exactly easy to prove a negative...

Modifié par The Uncanny, 18 mai 2011 - 01:23 .

[Valcutio]

More pandering to the 3-4% and alienating (pun intended) of the vast majority? Score another success like DA2 for Bioware! /sarcasm

BTW, I think it's time people started letter-writing campaigns to EA shareholders. Hit them in their wallets and maybe they'll focus on their priorities again.

[Centauri2002]

Valcutio wrote...

More pandering to the 3-4% and alienating (pun intended) of the vast majority? Score another success like DA2 for Bioware! /sarcasm

BTW, I think it's time people started letter-writing campaigns to EA shareholders. Hit them in their wallets and maybe they'll focus on their priorities again.

And how is it alienating the vast majority exactly?

[Augoeides]

paptschik wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

Oh please.

The quality of the arguments against S/S romances and/or existing characters revealing more about themselves is enough to make anybody run screaming for the nearest all-night shirtless-friendly house music club

But to be fair, the ever popular "They never said they weren't bi" argument isn't that great either.

As I have mentioned before I think it's an argument with more clout for some characters more than others, for example, the cut content of ME1 concerning Kaidan that, had it been included, would have made him a bi option means such a statement of 'not knowing' is mostly a defense against those who claim a character's heterosexuality beyond a doubt.

The not knowing argument on, say, Garrus, who has shown no inclination towards men either in game or in cut content, is stretched pretty thin.

So I agree with you in some respects.

[DecCylonus]

What I want for a "new" option is to continue an established relationship. I have characters with Ashley and characters with Miranda. I want to see those relationships develop more, instead of having to go through the "I like you, do you like me?" bit for a third time. Dragon Age: Origins did a good job of developing the relationships beyond that initial stage. I want to see the same in Mass Effect 3.

[HolyMoogle]

Valcutio wrote...

More pandering to the 3-4% and alienating (pun intended) of the vast majority? Score another success like DA2 for Bioware! /sarcasm

BTW, I think it's time people started letter-writing campaigns to EA shareholders. Hit them in their wallets and maybe they'll focus on their priorities again.

I would say that it's unlikely that the vast majority is as petty as you... but... I have to agree. I hate it when companies don't focus on their priorities! It's such an insult to good grammar!

[STG]

I swear, if ME3 includes gay romance but doesn't include mouse sensitivity on PC I'm officially done with Bioware.