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[Merchant2006]

InvaderErl wrote...

You really should be more careful when you throw the term homophobe around. If you pay attention 90% of the comments expressing concern are not saying that there should not be any homosexual relationships in the game, but there are legitimate worries about how they might integrate with already standing relationships especially in the light of how DA2 handled its love interests.

Yep. It's like saying how you dislike something a certain gender does and labelled a sexist. I voiced my disapproval for a sudden and dramatic change which meant everyone became Bi in ME3 a while ago and I was castrated for it and labelled homophobe. Go screw yourselves. I don't have an issue with there being an option for m/m or s/s romances but don't crucify me for stating it would be unreasonable and unrealistic for certain established characters do twist around.

I'd also like to quote AdmiralCheez back on page 1 and agree with the comment made. S/S is fine, just don't make everyone turn into a romance option. Leave some singled out for m/f and the others for s/s.

Modifié par Merchant2006, 16 mai 2011 - 10:32 .

[True Zarken]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Also,I will now quote a post from another thread. I agree with this 100%:

SalsaDMA wrote...

The game series up till now have given you, the player, a clear image in your head about the characters and their personalities.

If any of the characters are suddenly doing an 180 on sexual preference, then it's no longer the same character in the players mind. Damage will be done to the characters continum regardless of wether you can tell the NPC to 'get lost', and the story as a whole will suffer from it.

Add to this that some people take offense if you seriously suggest that they are into s/s relations, and you have all the stuff you could want to make sure that ME3 is heading into a deroute for quite a few people, solely because of this.

I don't mind homosexuals. I do mind the increasingly homosexualization of bioware games that make it appear as if it's just as common, or more, than heterosexuality; especially when they change existing characterws in this regard.

I couldn't agree with this more.

[STG]

I like varren.

Bioware, take a hint.

[Ghost Warrior]

Merchant2006 wrote...

S/S is fine, just don't make everyone turn into a romance option. Leave some singled out for m/f and the others for s/s.

Yes,why should everyone be into Shepard? There were already far too many romance options in ME2.

[Mudzr]

Firstly i'm glad that s/s romances were finally confirmed. Even though i'm straight the more options the merrier I say and who my shep ends up with is usually based on personality anyways.

But I just don't understand all the oposition. Here's my opinion on the subject:
To people saying that changing a characters sexuality will change their personality and therefore ruin the character...
Firstly, sexuality is a complex thing, from alot of what I read before in these forums (specifically concerning who people seem to think could be bi), people seem to think that sexuality has a significant factor on the personality.
It doesn't have to. The effeminate gay and the butch lesbian are stereotypes. In fact, with this logic, Kaiden (who has stereotypical feminine attributes) and Ashley (who has stereotypical masculine attribute) would be both gay, which they aren't. So what i'm trying to say is that a character expressing interest in the opposite sex does not need a personality shift to justify it, and their sexuality itself does not impact on their personality, they are independant issues.

Secondly, for those who say X couldn't be bi since they haven't been shown to be before...
sexuality is often a subtle thing, most people don't go around with glowing signs on indicating what they are. This is expecially true for bisexuals, but if they only show interest in one gender, people tend to assume that they are straight/ gay. This is not true, they have merely not found someone of the same/ opposite sex that they are interested in.
Excuse the crappy metaphor, but a guy could only go out with girls with blue eyes. This does not mean he is not attracted not girls with other eye colours it could be because there are only blue- eyed girls in the place he lives, it could be because his culture frowns upon pairings with different eye colours, it could be because there is simply no brown-eyed girls that he likes as people. But this does not mean he wouldn't go out with girls with brown eyes, or green eyes, or even orange eyes (ok maybe not orange eyes). And then there are the people that are not sure of their sexualaties and discover who they are later in life.
So bottom line, a person who has not expressed interest in the opposite sex is not neccessarily straight.

Finally as for the alien issue... (as a for note, since I really don't know anything about how cross species romances would work in real life, because, well it's virtually non existant in our real world, and therefore what is below is based on speculation and opinion.)
Now this is a matter of an opinion, but Garrus, Tali, Thane and Liara, being aliens, would be, IMO, pansexual. That is they are interested in people, not based of who they are physically, be it human, or male/ female, but who they are emotionally. So them being interested in a same sex shepard is perfectly plausable for me. There would be no children anyway, so it would hardly be any less taboo for them than interspecies romance.

Also, as for the whole fear people seem to have with people of the same sex coming on to them, it's perfectly possible that there will be clear indicators to iniate a romance or not, and getting out of one will probably be easy as well. I like how it was done in DA and DA2, with the worst you get being a minor dissaproval loss for backing out in one case, with the rest being perfectly ok with rejecting you.

So all in all, the content is optional, perfectly avoidable, and not at all gamebreaking, so peoples fears of the game being ruined are really unfounded. I'm personally for the all Bi option, and I wouldn't think it would change my view of the characters at all if handled well (for example, I like Garrus as a pruely platonic friend, but if he s/s romance was intiated only though you relentlessly persuing him, and therefore unoticeable to those who didn't flirt with him, I think a s/s romance with him would work, and not effect others who didn't wish to persue it.) Really there are much bigger things to worry about in this game, and i'm just relieved that Bioware is finally apparently making this step.

[ElitePinecone]

 This is indulgent speculation on my part, but I was re-reading CHudson's tweets again (and swooning all over the place) and I did notice something else interesting. 

In a response to several people's concern that s/s would break the existing characterisation (I think they assumed it would be existing characters made bisexual, and not new characters), Casey responded "I'm confident that our writing team will handle LI's in #ME3 with sophistication and preserve character continuity."

'Preserving' continuity means it had to be there in the first place. Hudson wouldn't take the time to respond to these concerns if he didn't (in my view) already have an inkling of who the s/s romances would be. 

Again, this is pure speculation. But to my mind it looks far more likely that former squadmates will be written to be bisexual (and, according to this tweet, written well), though of course there could also be new love interests in any new, but familiar, squadmates that join the crew. 

I guess what I'm saying is that if Vega were the only m/m romance, and there was another new f/f character, Hudson would have no need to reassure people that the writers were 'preserving continuity'. 

[SilentNukee]

Mudzr wrote...

Firstly i'm glad that s/s romances were finally confirmed. Even though i'm straight the more options the merrier I say and who my shep ends up with is usually based on personality anyways.

But I just don't understand all the oposition. Here's my opinion on the subject:
To people saying that changing a characters sexuality will change their personality and therefore ruin the character...
Firstly, sexuality is a complex thing, from alot of what I read before in these forums (specifically concerning who people seem to think could be bi), people seem to think that sexuality has a significant factor on the personality.
It doesn't have to. The effeminate gay and the butch lesbian are stereotypes. In fact, with this logic, Kaiden (who has stereotypical feminine attributes) and Ashley (who has stereotypical masculine attribute) would be both gay, which they aren't. So what i'm trying to say is that a character expressing interest in the opposite sex does not need a personality shift to justify it, and their sexuality itself does not impact on their personality, they are independant issues.

Secondly, for those who say X couldn't be bi since they haven't been shown to be before...
sexuality is often a subtle thing, most people don't go around with glowing signs on indicating what they are. This is expecially true for bisexuals, but if they only show interest in one gender, people tend to assume that they are straight/ gay. This is not true, they have merely not found someone of the same/ opposite sex that they are interested in.
Excuse the crappy metaphor, but a guy could only go out with girls with blue eyes. This does not mean he is not attracted not girls with other eye colours it could be because there are only blue- eyed girls in the place he lives, it could be because his culture frowns upon pairings with different eye colours, it could be because there is simply no brown-eyed girls that he likes as people. But this does not mean he wouldn't go out with girls with brown eyes, or green eyes, or even orange eyes (ok maybe not orange eyes). And then there are the people that are not sure of their sexualaties and discover who they are later in life.
So bottom line, a person who has not expressed interest in the opposite sex is not neccessarily straight.

Finally as for the alien issue... (as a for note, since I really don't know anything about how cross species romances would work in real life, because, well it's virtually non existant in our real world, and therefore what is below is based on speculation and opinion.)
Now this is a matter of an opinion, but Garrus, Tali, Thane and Liara, being aliens, would be, IMO, pansexual. That is they are interested in people, not based of who they are physically, be it human, or male/ female, but who they are emotionally. So them being interested in a same sex shepard is perfectly plausable for me. There would be no children anyway, so it would hardly be any less taboo for them than interspecies romance.

Also, as for the whole fear people seem to have with people of the same sex coming on to them, it's perfectly possible that there will be clear indicators to iniate a romance or not, and getting out of one will probably be easy as well. I like how it was done in DA and DA2, with the worst you get being a minor dissaproval loss for backing out in one case, with the rest being perfectly ok with rejecting you.

So all in all, the content is optional, perfectly avoidable, and not at all gamebreaking, so peoples fears of the game being ruined are really unfounded. I'm personally for the all Bi option, and I wouldn't think it would change my view of the characters at all if handled well (for example, I like Garrus as a pruely platonic friend, but if he s/s romance was intiated only though you relentlessly persuing him, and therefore unoticeable to those who didn't flirt with him, I think a s/s romance with him would work, and not effect others who didn't wish to persue it.) Really there are much bigger things to worry about in this game, and i'm just relieved that Bioware is finally apparently making this step.

Very well said. This post alone should get 5 stars.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 16 mai 2011 - 10:44 .

[BrandNewMan]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And you said that they are probably going to select a few. On a 12 people team,even that's too much. Bisexuality is not a common thing.

This takes place in the distant future. Bisexuality could very well be common.

[Jebel Krong]

SilentNukee wrote...

Mudzr wrote...

Firstly i'm glad that s/s romances were finally confirmed. Even though i'm straight the more options the merrier I say and who my shep ends up with is usually based on personality anyways.

But I just don't understand all the oposition. Here's my opinion on the subject:
To people saying that changing a characters sexuality will change their personality and therefore ruin the character...
Firstly, sexuality is a complex thing, from alot of what I read before in these forums (specifically concerning who people seem to think could be bi), people seem to think that sexuality has a significant factor on the personality.
It doesn't have to. The effeminate gay and the butch lesbian are stereotypes. In fact, with this logic, Kaiden (who has stereotypical feminine attributes) and Ashley (who has stereotypical masculine attribute) would be both gay, which they aren't. So what i'm trying to say is that a character expressing interest in the opposite sex does not need a personality shift to justify it, and their sexuality itself does not impact on their personality, they are independant issues.

Very well said.

except that, y'know, now they could possibly be gay and that would nullify your whole first point.

personally i don't have a position on the issue - i agree with those who say it would ruin pre-existing characters' continuity to suddenly express an interest in you after, what, 3 games in some cases; but more romance options could possibly get me to play a femshep again and brave Hale's awful VA - if they're as well-handled as usual. kaiden seemed pretty gay to me anyway, but then he's dead.

so all told BW would probably be more sensible to keep coninuity and keep it to the newer characters for the s/s relationships (& liara - as she already was).

[Ghost Warrior]

BrandNewMan wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And you said that they are probably going to select a few. On a 12 people team,even that's too much. Bisexuality is not a common thing.

This takes place in the distant future. Bisexuality could very well be common.

It could,but so far there was no reason to think that. Okay,looks like every asari (more or less) is bisexual,and some women are too. But during entire two first games we haven't seen one gay or bisexual male.Not one.

[Saeran]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

BrandNewMan wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And you said that they are probably going to select a few. On a 12 people team,even that's too much. Bisexuality is not a common thing.

This takes place in the distant future. Bisexuality could very well be common.

It could,but so far there was no reason to think that. Okay,looks like every asari (more or less) is bisexual,and some women are too. But during entire two first games we haven't seen one gay or bisexual male.Not one.

We have in the universe however. Hendel Mitra bro.

[SilentNukee]

Jebel Krong wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Mudzr wrote...

Firstly i'm glad that s/s romances were finally confirmed. Even though i'm straight the more options the merrier I say and who my shep ends up with is usually based on personality anyways.

But I just don't understand all the oposition. Here's my opinion on the subject:
To people saying that changing a characters sexuality will change their personality and therefore ruin the character...
Firstly, sexuality is a complex thing, from alot of what I read before in these forums (specifically concerning who people seem to think could be bi), people seem to think that sexuality has a significant factor on the personality.
It doesn't have to. The effeminate gay and the butch lesbian are stereotypes. In fact, with this logic, Kaiden (who has stereotypical feminine attributes) and Ashley (who has stereotypical masculine attribute) would be both gay, which they aren't. So what i'm trying to say is that a character expressing interest in the opposite sex does not need a personality shift to justify it, and their sexuality itself does not impact on their personality, they are independant issues.

Very well said.

except that, y'know, now they could possibly be gay and that would nullify your whole first point.

personally i don't have a position on the issue - i agree with those who say it would ruin pre-existing characters' continuity to suddenly express an interest in you after, what, 3 games in some cases; but more romance options could possibly get me to play a femshep again and brave Hale's awful VA - if they're as well-handled as usual. kaiden seemed pretty gay to me anyway, but then he's dead.

so all told BW would probably be more sensible to keep coninuity and keep it to the newer characters for the s/s relationships (& liara - as she already was).

Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

[Jebel Krong]

SilentNukee wrote...

Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

i have a lot of faith in (most of) the writers, but i don't have a lot of faith in the time available for development for everyone to get what they want - deep and meaningful content, inlcuding relationships - and a rush/bad job is worse than no job at all.

saying it's not fair isn't an argument as the characters could have been "enabled" for a lack of better term, in retail builds from the start. perhaps BW felt that it just didn't suit many of the characters. you can still mod to your hearts content on pc, or fanfic your way into what you want - why must everyone always have special priviledges?

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 16 mai 2011 - 11:00 .

[SilentNukee]

BrandNewMan wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

And you said that they are probably going to select a few. On a 12 people team,even that's too much. Bisexuality is not a common thing.

This takes place in the distant future. Bisexuality could very well be common.

Hm, I don't know. Considering colonisation is very important in the galaxy, it probably isn't that common. But I'm sure it's more common than interspecies romances. At least, it should be. (Especially in the real world...If people don't think so, well...Something's wrong. O.o)

[SilentNukee]

Jebel Krong wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

i have a lot of faith in (most of) the writers, but i don't have a lot of faith in the time available for development for everyone to get what they want - deep and meaningful content, inlcuding relationships - and a rush/bad job is worse than no job at all.

Good thing it got delayed then, eh.

[Ghost Warrior]

Jebel Krong wrote...


personally i don't have a position on the issue - i agree with those who say it would ruin pre-existing characters' continuity to suddenly express an interest in you after, what, 3 games in some cases

Exactly the point I was trying to make. They had first two games to make a move. ME1 was all about chase,race against time with entire galaxy on stake,so I guess there is a reason why they didn't express their feelings.

ME2 actually had much slower pace,waiting for TIM to call in with new info,plus they all knew they were going on Suicide Mission and that chances of survival are slim. If they were ever supposed to show any interest,it should have happened during ME2.

Of course,that doesn't apply on VS,since they weren't part of your ME2 squad. But in ME1,Kaidan would in few situations show to be nervous when it comes to women,but never ever with men. And Ash seems kinda like traditional Christian girl,who by the way,flirted with and teased male Shep,but never female Shep.

[brain_damage]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Best option - VS is made bi/like they were in the first game, originally/ and you can romance them if your relationship in the first game was good.
Good option- Moar Kelly Chambers.

[Ghost Warrior]

SilentNukee wrote...


Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

It would be insulting to suddenly change characters like that,characters we have come to love.

And your selection is anything but minimal.

[SilentNukee]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...


Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

It would be insulting to suddenly change characters like that,characters we have come to love.

And your selection is anything but minimal.

...Really? How is it minimal? It's 4 people, out of the 12 alone in ME2. (And if you're a male Shep, it's only going to be 2, but you probably killed Kaidan so it will be 1.)
It's not changing character...Being gay/bisexual DOES NOT CHANGE WHO A PERSON IS. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you love their personality, they will STILL BE that same person that you love.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 16 mai 2011 - 11:11 .

[Ghost Warrior]

SilentNukee wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...


Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

It would be insulting to suddenly change characters like that,characters we have come to love.

And your selection is anything but minimal.

...Really? How is it minimal? It's 4 people, out of the 12 alone in ME2. (And if you're a male Shep, it's only going to be 2, but you probably killed Kaidan so it will be 1.)
It's not changing character...Being gay/bisexual DOES NOT CHANGE WHO A PERSON IS. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you love their personality, they will STILL BE that same person that you love.

4 out of 12 being BI is a lot. It is. (what,1/3 of population is bisexual,come on)
And as much as you hate to admit it, SEXUALITY DOES AFFECT PERSONALITY. And that has nothing to do with stereotypes.

I've already written in one of my earlier posts that I know a lot of people who never directly said "I am straight" or something along those lines,but I would literally bet my life that they are.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 16 mai 2011 - 11:17 .

[Ieldra]

I'm not absolutely against everyone being available for any kind of relationship, at least if it doesn't result in outright contradictions (Jack should not be an f/f option).

The reasoning is that each player is playing in his or her own ME universe. If the romance is almost always triggered by the player, I can avoid using the trigger options in the dialogue and pretend, for instance, that Miranda isn't bi. It's even possible that one character has a preferred romanced gender but it's not absolute, so for instance Miranda might take more of an active role in getting the romance started/continued if you're a maleShep, but if you're a femShep you need to take the initiative yourself. Still succcessful.

As long as I can pretend that Miranda isn't bi in most of my games without the game telling me I'm wrong I don't have a big problem with her being available for an f/f romance. I would prefer if she weren't, but I can live with it.

My only concern is that they're going to write the romances more generic because of this.

Edit:
While I can live with it, I would hugely *prefer* it if existing characters' sexual orientation weren't changed or reinterpreted.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 16 mai 2011 - 11:19 .

[FDrage]

So you say it would be insulting if they don't do something you support and on the other side you question someone who says just the same but from a different point of view ? Interesting ...

Anyway ...

PC gamer interview of Casey Hudson states that there aren't any new LI interests in ME3

Casey Hudson: Well yeah, it’s going to be similar to Mass Effect 1 and 2. Like I say, we’re not introducing any new characters that are going to be love interests. There’s some new characters, but generally it’s going to be the interplay between the characters from 2 and the returning ones from 1, and then Liara as the one that’s… either asexual or omnisexual, depends on how you look at it

http://www.pcgamer.c...love-interests/

Ieldra2 wrote...

The reasoning is that each player is playing in his or her own ME universe. If the romance is almost always
triggered by the player, I can avoid using the trigger options in the dialogue and pretend, for instance, that Miranda isn't bi. 

one of the problems so is "meta-gaming" in that regards then ...

Modifié par FDrage, 16 mai 2011 - 11:20 .

[Clonedzero]

SilentNukee wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...


Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

It would be insulting to suddenly change characters like that,characters we have come to love.

And your selection is anything but minimal.

...Really? How is it minimal? It's 4 people, out of the 12 alone in ME2. (And if you're a male Shep, it's only going to be 2, but you probably killed Kaidan so it will be 1.)
It's not changing character...Being gay/bisexual DOES NOT CHANGE WHO A PERSON IS. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you love their personality, they will STILL BE that same person that you love.

thats not the point. you're missing it.

being written as a bi romance changes how they are written, its just a fact.

also there are plenty of people who are concerned their non-romance relationships with characters will be effected by this change. i know alot of people really love the deep brotherly friendship shepard and garrus share. if he's turned bi that could very easily mess with that.

thats what people are concerned about. i want to be able to talk to garrus and have tons of dialogue with him, but WITHOUT engaging in a romantic relationship or even having the possiblity of one brought up. i see him as shepards brother, a romantic relationship is totally out of character for them both.

thats what people are concerned about, they dont mind the s/s romances, many, myself included are happy they're finally being included, they just dont want their favorite characters to be changed and forced into a niche.

[Fancando]

About damn time, Fallout New Vegas had this since december 2010!

[SilentNukee]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...


Why can't you put faith in ME team's writers?
It wouldn't be fair AT ALL to the community who do support this, to get nothing but new LIs thrown at us instead of continuing the bond they shared with their favorites from earlier games. Honestly, if they did do this, it would be quite insulting. But, I'm pretty sure they're not, which I'm thankful for. The selection is probably going to be very minimal (I'm thinking Kaidan/Ashley/Liara/Tali/Garrus), but I'm sure it will please a lot of us.

It would be insulting to suddenly change characters like that,characters we have come to love.

And your selection is anything but minimal.

...Really? How is it minimal? It's 4 people, out of the 12 alone in ME2. (And if you're a male Shep, it's only going to be 2, but you probably killed Kaidan so it will be 1.)
It's not changing character...Being gay/bisexual DOES NOT CHANGE WHO A PERSON IS. How is that so hard to comprehend? If you love their personality, they will STILL BE that same person that you love.

4 out of 12 being BI is a lot. It is
And as much as you hate to admit it, SEXUALITY DOES AFFECT PERSONALITY. And that has nothing to do with stereotypes.

I've already written in one of my earlier posts that I know a lot of people who never directly said "I am straight" or something along those lines,but I would literally bet my life that they are.

They won't screw over their personality because they are adding this feature in it. They will be the same, because it's like they always were like that to begin with, it was just not brought into attention until ME3. (Sort of like Tali's interest in ME2, we've never seen it in ME1.)
I hope you're not that guy who's best friend finally comes out of the closet, and you disown him for it after years of fun and "bromacing". That's not cool, dude.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 16 mai 2011 - 11:23 .