Russalka wrote...
And instead of trying to start civil
conversation, you revert back to the same old position of everyone being
bad. How are you any better than us then? According to you, we are
unreasonable, but it seems you are too.
Well maybe that is because I run into the same handful of people, such as...
Siansonea II wrote...
Now, now, no need for name calling. My being spoiled and arrogant has nothing to do with the fact that I support the inclusion of same-sex content. It's just a natural by-product of being awesome and attractive. But that's neither here nor there, the fact remains that now that you're on the other side of the fence, you're singing a different tune than you were before. Before this announcement, you were the "spoiled and arrogant" one, because BioWare's stance at that time supported your viewpoint that people who want something you dislike don't matter. Now that you're on the receiving end of what you view as "discrimination" (as if...) you don't like it. Instead of having an epiphany about how others might have felt, etc., etc., you choose to feel like a victim. For those of us who remember the glee with which you derided the idea, and the way you exulted over the exclusion of this content, well, it makes it hard for us to feel sorry for you. That's all I'm saying.
I don't think the supporters of inclusion have been behaving inappropriately, actually. We had our Fight For The Love thread, and we were happily celebrating—and it got locked. Then we got sent here, and we were happily discussing the possibilities, and then the anti-gay crowd started shouting down our ideas with calls of "Retcon!" and "Decreased Sales!" and other such pretexts which could be easily swept aside if all agreed to use reason and logic to discuss them. Those things evaporate pretty quickly when exposed to the light of reason. But instead of using your previously favorite trump card "It's BioWare's call—deal with it", we choose to laboriously go through the process of showing the flaws in the logic being presented as if it were something to seriously consider. Out of respect, and out of a desire to help those who simply don't know any better. But that part, at least, seems to be a losing battle. People don't say the things your fellows are saying if they want to engage in a reasoned discussion. They just want to hate loudly enough to get BioWare to overturn their decision. Well, I would wish you luck with that, but in truth I hope you fail.
Yes I suppose narcissism would make one think that. I was never spoiled or arrogant for opposing your little cause. I saw ever reason for Bioware not to add such content and it is a decision that I continue to oppose. Meanwhile your group always liked to pretend it had the moral high ground, you used the usual empty phrases, said "it doesn't effect anybody else", and played the usual act. The constant claim that Bioware was discriminating by not providing what you wanted was always a favorite of mine. Of course anybody who opposed you happened to be "homophobes" but that was just another means to an end. Yet now that you have what you want, your hypocrisy is pretty clear. Despite whatever excuses you'll invent, you never cared about other players who didn't want to deal with nonsense like this. You won't admit it, but you don't want to agree to any sort of compromise out of spite. So you claim some sort of selection at the start of the game, or some sort of DLC would be "offensive." You make empty comparisons to race or Cerberus. Many of your supporters are perfectly fine with characters being retconned, hitting on Shepard, and so on. If everybody just happens to become bisexual, your response is for the "homophobes" to "deal with it". This is a far cry from how you portrayed yourselves previously.
If you want to pat each other on the back all day go to your private group, there was never any reason or logic behind your claims anyway. You wanted this out of personal interests and nothing more. Yet unlike the Talimancers or any other group, you could bludgeon your way through to Bioware thanks to today's culture of politically correct insanity and playing off of "white straight guilt." I'll commend you for this, as people prove as gullible as ever. Now you'll complain about "haters" to say "see we shouldn't compromise with
those people." We always hoped the other's cause would fail, that's the way this works. Now I can only hope Bioware shows some common sense and allows players to make their choice at the start of the game. Or at least they could show the integrity to not make everybody bisexual, something which at least half of you seem to dearly want.
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