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[paptschik]

Ryzaki wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
He is into AI you can't have him!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

She can't love him like Dude Shep can!

Stupid ship.

There is a joke to be made about EDI having Joker inside her....

[MACharlie1]

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm not sure about Jack. There's this idea that because she's alternative and says f*ck a lot and stuff she should be bi. A little too stereotypical maybe?

She does mention "boyfriends and girlfriends" in the beginning, so she's probably been with both. But, at the end if you try to be nice to her as FemShep, she tells you she doesn't play "the girl field", and totally rejects you in a mean way. She's the only one who mentions anything about their sexual orientation.

Didn't she just say she wasn't into the girls club thing? Meaning she wasn't the type to gossip and braid each other's hair. 

[Centauri2002]

Nyoka wrote...

I'm not sure about Jack. There's this idea that because she's alternative and says f*ck a lot and stuff she should be bi. A little too stereotypical maybe?

Perhaps but she didn't really tick the boxes for me anyway. One might think she'd fit a RenShep well but I think what she really needs is a caring paragon/paragade. Either way, I'm not looking for her to be open for s/s.

I don't think I'm actually that interested in any of the current squad members becoming available, now that I think about it.

[Erani]

Ryzaki wrote...

Erani wrote...
Yes. Joker admits he is not a "people person" and one can notice that he has trouble accepting that others won't judge him due his disease, so it'd make sense if he took a long time to show his feelings to Shepard. It'd be awesome if he had a personal mission in ME3, like in the salarian homeworld for Shep to try and find a cure for him, maybe helping Mordin.

Yeah I'm playing ME1 right now and he practically bites Shepard's head off when Shep asks about him. Yeesh Joker. That mixed with his humor shield in ME2 and yeah...I want him as an LI.

Oooh a personal mission would be great. Have him do another last second rescue using the ship of course for extra points .

Yes, as for the cure to his disease, remember how Mordin said once that he thought he had the cure to Joker's condition, but then oh no...but still, he made some progress and Mordin is a total genius so I suspect he kept working on it in his spare time. 

Edit: @Centaur, I don't really like Jack or Miranda for s/s but wouldn't be too against Miranda. I like Tali for f/f way more, but I'd prefer the VS survivor (very close to Shepard, Shepard save their lives, you know they got history) or somone like Aria or Gianna.<3

Modifié par Erani, 19 mai 2011 - 01:14 .

[Centauri2002]

mrsph wrote...

Male Shepard isn't a robot?

You see, he's only playing that part because he secretly wants Joker.

[Ryzaki]

paptschik wrote...

I can see the heart aching...hell, weirdness aside one of my femsheps WOULD romance him.
I think the main reason for my opinion anyway is the fact that he is one of my favorite characters and I am one of those people that don't like change. By now I just can't help but see Joker as straight...that is how he is in my mind for a long time now and unlike characters that are not my favorites, I have more trouble changing my view to a newly revealed "canon" view.
If I would like Joker (or Garrus or Tali...seriously, in the end it's mostly those three for me that I want to be straight, others I either can see as bi anyway, in general or because of reasons brought up here, or frankly, they're characters like Jacob where I just would not care either way) less I'd probably be more open to him being bi.
Weird I know, but I don't claim to know how my mind works and why it works that way.

(and I feel the need to note that yes, bi/gay characters could also be favorites of mine, Zevran remains my second favorite Bioware characters and my favorite DA character...it's just that Zevran was, from the start, in my mind as bi...or, honestly, I always saw him as more gay than bi, but that's a topic for another forum/thread....the whole situation is mostly me not liking change in how I view characters because I love them as they are...childish, i know, but such is how i am^^)

Ah I don't see him as just straight. I kind of see him as thetype that puts upso many barriers between him ad others by the time you get to him and really mean something to him it wouldn't matter what gender they were. But of course that's just my view.

Eh I see my favs as bi so it probably works both ways. Miranda, Garrus, Tali, Kaidan all of them I see as concieveably bisexual.

[Abispa]

Not Abispa here, but his better half (and more mature) --

I always wanted Tali and female Shepard to share an environment after she told Shepard how much such a move would mean to her people. This could have been a beautiful and intimate moment that had NOTHING to do with sexuality while still expressing a deep love between two "sisters" or, as I saw it, "mother and daughter."

Unfortunately, Bioware cheapened the experience by having Tali take off her mask and just start smooching male Shepard and then have sex. Later, "Gee, I have an awful cold, but it was so worth it, studly." I was SO disappointed.

P.S. -- If "Abispa" here keeps getting out of line, PLEASE just tell him to shut up.

[paptschik]

Abispa wrote...

All you Joker fans are JUST SICK. I mean, bisexuality with VS, beastiality with Boo the space hamster, alien sex with female plucked chickens with her head in the bucket, pedophilia with Grunt, and nutri-paste oral sex with Biotic God are awesome, but having sex with a cripple is just SO WEIRD.

Besides, he only has eyes for EDI, who is in love with LEGION, who is eying the toaster.

In my weird psyche Joker gets over the loss of EDI by going with Kelly.
And yes, the only reasoning I have for shipping them is that they are my favorite NPCs, logic and the characters I ship having actually met be damned. I don't have to make sense as long as I admit that I don't make sense!

[Zjarcal]

centauri2002 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Male Shepard isn't a robot?

You see, he's only playing that part because he secretly wants Joker.

Oh, that explains so much... 

[paptschik]

Lenimph wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

 You know what would be epic....if only a femshep Talimance got to see her unmasked...   

LOL...That would be too mean, I think. So many male Talimancers..the QQ..omg, endless QQ.
I hugged dat quarian once, I wanna do it again! ...I don't mind if I don't see her face. :[

 
Actually I will be very disappointed if we don't see what a quarian actually looks like by the end of the series.  I don't care if it's Tali specifically or not...  

Until then I'm imagining she looks something like HR Giger's Sil

I want to say that's beautiful, but ever since I was a Giger exhibit a few weeks ago I can't help but fear that there are dozens of hidden penis's (what's the plural?) somewhere in there.
Seriously, you should no go to a Giger exhibit if you don't like the male  penis....or the female penis in some cases.

[MACharlie1]

paptschik wrote...

Abispa wrote...

All you Joker fans are JUST SICK. I mean, bisexuality with VS, beastiality with Boo the space hamster, alien sex with female plucked chickens with her head in the bucket, pedophilia with Grunt, and nutri-paste oral sex with Biotic God are awesome, but having sex with a cripple is just SO WEIRD.

Besides, he only has eyes for EDI, who is in love with LEGION, who is eying the toaster.

In my weird psyche Joker gets over the loss of EDI by going with Kelly.
And yes, the only reasoning I have for shipping them is that they are my favorite NPCs, logic and the characters I ship having actually met be damned. I don't have to make sense as long as I admit that I don't make sense!

I'm still holding out for Kelly to be a Cerberus assassin in ME3. In which in your scenario, she'd probably end up trying to kill Joker....then Dr Chakwas comes in and knocks Kelly out with a bedpan. 

[Ryzaki]

mrsph wrote...

Male Shepard isn't a robot?

Nope. Just a cyborg.

paptschik wrote...
There is a joke to be made about EDI having Joker inside her....

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] Nice.

Erani wrote...

Yes, as for the cure to his disease,
remember how Mordin said once that he thought he had the cure to Joker's
condition, but then oh no...but still, he made some progress and Mordin
is a total genius so I suspect he kept working on it in his spare
time. 

D: I forgot about that.

MORDIN! YOU CAN DO IT!

If Mordin did that he'd be even more awesome...awesome forever. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

[SilentNukee]

MACharlie1 wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm not sure about Jack. There's this idea that because she's alternative and says f*ck a lot and stuff she should be bi. A little too stereotypical maybe?

She does mention "boyfriends and girlfriends" in the beginning, so she's probably been with both. But, at the end if you try to be nice to her as FemShep, she tells you she doesn't play "the girl field", and totally rejects you in a mean way. She's the only one who mentions anything about their sexual orientation.

Didn't she just say she wasn't into the girls club thing? Meaning she wasn't the type to gossip and braid each other's hair. 

I guess you could interpret it like that...Hmm.

[Cootie]

Zjarcal wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Male Shepard isn't a robot?

You see, he's only playing that part because he secretly wants Joker.

Oh, that explains so much... 

Those dead eyes.
Those cursed dead eyes.

o.o

[Inquisitor Recon]

Siansonea II wrote...
I have read your response. I disagree with many of your conclusions.

It's funny how you expect me to be accommodating toward you, and yet you have never been accommodating toward me, and yet you are calling ME a hypocrite. That is very interesting. And that's all I have to say about that.

Well as you know I disagree with many of your conclusions. At least we can agree to disagree.

If you did get your way I figured your hypocrisy would show itself, yours was the group that pretended to be above being so petty after-all. But I never expected you to compromise to anything, rather I hope Bioware will simply take the middle route rather than your extreme.

[Abispa]

MACharlie1 wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Abispa wrote...

All you Joker fans are JUST SICK. I mean, bisexuality with VS, beastiality with Boo the space hamster, alien sex with female plucked chickens with her head in the bucket, pedophilia with Grunt, and nutri-paste oral sex with Biotic God are awesome, but having sex with a cripple is just SO WEIRD.

Besides, he only has eyes for EDI, who is in love with LEGION, who is eying the toaster.

In my weird psyche Joker gets over the loss of EDI by going with Kelly.
And yes, the only reasoning I have for shipping them is that they are my favorite NPCs, logic and the characters I ship having actually met be damned. I don't have to make sense as long as I admit that I don't make sense!

I'm still holding out for Kelly to be a Cerberus assassin in ME3. In which in your scenario, she'd probably end up trying to kill Joker....then Dr Chakwas comes in and knocks Kelly out with a bedpan. 

Bedpans can substitute as Krogan condoms.

[SilentNukee]

[paptschik]

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm not sure about Jack. There's this idea that because she's alternative and says f*ck a lot and stuff she should be bi. A little too stereotypical maybe?

She does mention "boyfriends and girlfriends" in the beginning, so she's probably been with both. But, at the end if you try to be nice to her as FemShep, she tells you she doesn't play "the girl field", and totally rejects you in a mean way. She's the only one who mentions anything about their sexual orientation.

Maybe she didn't enjoy women as much. Or maybe she is a "have sex with either, have romances with only one" persons. I don't know if that is a usual thing in reality, I don't know that many bisexual people (well, my closest friends have all bisexual tendencies, but we never really talk about that outside of some sex jokes about getting to watch the lesbians), but I have seen it in fiction numerous times.

[MACharlie1]

Abispa wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Abispa wrote...

All you Joker fans are JUST SICK. I mean, bisexuality with VS, beastiality with Boo the space hamster, alien sex with female plucked chickens with her head in the bucket, pedophilia with Grunt, and nutri-paste oral sex with Biotic God are awesome, but having sex with a cripple is just SO WEIRD.

Besides, he only has eyes for EDI, who is in love with LEGION, who is eying the toaster.

In my weird psyche Joker gets over the loss of EDI by going with Kelly.
And yes, the only reasoning I have for shipping them is that they are my favorite NPCs, logic and the characters I ship having actually met be damned. I don't have to make sense as long as I admit that I don't make sense!

I'm still holding out for Kelly to be a Cerberus assassin in ME3. In which in your scenario, she'd probably end up trying to kill Joker....then Dr Chakwas comes in and knocks Kelly out with a bedpan. 

Bedpans can substitute as Krogan condoms.

I'll keep that in mind. 

Though that raises MANY questions that I don't think I can ask here. :innocent:

[Some Geth]

mrsph wrote...

Male Shepard isn't a robot?

More of a cyborg(I think?) but still not an AI.

[Centauri2002]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well as you know I disagree with many of your conclusions. At least we can agree to disagree.

If you did get your way I figured your hypocrisy would show itself, yours was the group that pretended to be above being so petty after-all. But I never expected you to compromise to anything, rather I hope Bioware will simply take the middle route rather than your extreme.

Instead of making gross generalisations you could join in the fun with everyone else. 

[SilentNukee]

paptschik wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm not sure about Jack. There's this idea that because she's alternative and says f*ck a lot and stuff she should be bi. A little too stereotypical maybe?

She does mention "boyfriends and girlfriends" in the beginning, so she's probably been with both. But, at the end if you try to be nice to her as FemShep, she tells you she doesn't play "the girl field", and totally rejects you in a mean way. She's the only one who mentions anything about their sexual orientation.

Maybe she didn't enjoy women as much. Or maybe she is a "have sex with either, have romances with only one" persons. I don't know if that is a usual thing in reality, I don't know that many bisexual people (well, my closest friends have all bisexual tendencies, but we never really talk about that outside of some sex jokes about getting to watch the lesbians), but I have seen it in fiction numerous times.

I'm bisexual myself, and I -used- to be that way when I was younger...Scientists do say that no one is 100% straight or 100% gay. I like to think myself that, at least girls, are all a little bisexual inside. Men, they're harder to crack...But yeah, she could be that type. She's been through a lot, I do feel bad for her even if she's so tense around my FemShep.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 19 mai 2011 - 01:23 .

[Erani]

Ryzaki wrote...

paptschik wrote...

I can see the heart aching...hell, weirdness aside one of my femsheps WOULD romance him.
I think the main reason for my opinion anyway is the fact that he is one of my favorite characters and I am one of those people that don't like change. By now I just can't help but see Joker as straight...that is how he is in my mind for a long time now and unlike characters that are not my favorites, I have more trouble changing my view to a newly revealed "canon" view.
If I would like Joker (or Garrus or Tali...seriously, in the end it's mostly those three for me that I want to be straight, others I either can see as bi anyway, in general or because of reasons brought up here, or frankly, they're characters like Jacob where I just would not care either way) less I'd probably be more open to him being bi.
Weird I know, but I don't claim to know how my mind works and why it works that way.

(and I feel the need to note that yes, bi/gay characters could also be favorites of mine, Zevran remains my second favorite Bioware characters and my favorite DA character...it's just that Zevran was, from the start, in my mind as bi...or, honestly, I always saw him as more gay than bi, but that's a topic for another forum/thread....the whole situation is mostly me not liking change in how I view characters because I love them as they are...childish, i know, but such is how i am^^)

Ah I don't see him as just straight. I kind of see him as thetype that puts upso many barriers between him ad others by the time you get to him and really mean something to him it wouldn't matter what gender they were. But of course that's just my view.

Eh I see my favs as bi so it probably works both ways. Miranda, Garrus, Tali, Kaidan all of them I see as concieveably bisexual.

That's a very interesting point Ryz. I see Joker as the type of person that doesn't really connect with anyone because he is always supecting that they will pity him or don't think much of him. He is sorta like Garrus in the sense that most likely he sees Shepard as his only friend in the world. Therefore, being able to romantically click with someone would be so so difficult. I think that if he gets to the point where he is that close to someone, he wouldn't care about their gender but be glad that he is human and able to love after all.<3

[Centauri2002]

Cootie wrote...

Those dead eyes.
Those cursed dead eyes.

o.o

They're only dead because Joker won't give him the time of day. Poor guy.

[paptschik]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh I see my favs as bi so it probably works both ways. Miranda, Garrus, Tali, Kaidan all of them I see as concieveably bisexual.

It's probably a "see what you want" thing...or a "see what's closest to you" thing. Kinda like an example I once read somewhere about...make a stickfigure, a white person will say it's a white person, an asian will tell you it's clearly an asian and so on.

This is one reason why I like to know what the deal is from the start, so I don't end up being wrong. It's not like knowing if they're bi or gay would keep me from liking them. It would just keep me from eventually having a "but I don't want everything I know to be wrong" moment.