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[TheMarshal]

ReconTeam wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...
That's a pretty craven attitude to take, but I'll bite.  Why wouldn't the same thing work now?  There would sure to be plenty of free press surrounding the inclusion of m/m romances in a franchise as popular as Mass Effect.

Though, I'm sorry, I can't actually remember which part of homosexual romances you object to: allowing them in the first place or having existing romances be available to s/s Shepards.

It is working. Look at this mess. Free articles on various gaming sites, etc.

I object to the addition of homosexual romances, pre-existing characters essientally being rewritten, and Bioware possibly showing favoritism.

Methinks you're not opposed to favoritism when you're the one being catered to...  Just a guess, though.

[ipgd]

ReconTeam wrote...

I expect more class in my brothels

[AngelicMachinery]

Davian1980 wrote...

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

By this reasoning, why should homosexual people even be subjected to the vision of heterosexual lines?

[Siansonea]

I found the "I expect more class in my brothels" line to be similarly hilarious. Somebody should start a High class Brothels for ME3/DA3 group.

Personally, I think a "high-class" brothel would offer every type of human/elf/quarian/qunari/asari/dwarf/turian that a client might want. I wouldn't assume any client had a preference until he told me, but then I don't run a brothel.

[Servo to the bitter end]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

If you're playing a paragon, why should you see a renegade option? Clearly you're not going to use it.

Potentially, though, you could. If you don't want to, you won't.

[Blacklash93]

Davian1980 wrote...
And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

... So other people who want the option can? The option just being there says nothing about your Shepard.

[ShiftSpectre]

Haven't been to these forums in a while. Why is every Bioware game suddenly about the romances? Can I request some paragon options that don't involve Shepard coming on to people?

[SilentNukee]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

Ugh...relate it to RL? What, you never had someone who wasn't straight interested in you? Shame.

[ipgd]

Davian1980 wrote...

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

The same reason your Paragon Shepard has Renegade options he'd never take, and vice-versa?

I mean, it's not like it's not the same exact thing in real life. You have the option to have sex with men, but you don't. Doesn't that make your Shepard more straight, now that he's actively choosing not to have sex with men even when it is a possibility?

[Centauri2002]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

Your Shepard likely favours Renegade or Paragon too but the other options are there. Just because a dialogue option is there, doesn't mean you have to click it. Are you so uncomfortable with seeing a dialogue option you needn't  select?

[Servo to the bitter end]

ShiftSpectre wrote...

Haven't been to these forums in a while. Why is every Bioware game suddenly about the romances? Can I request some paragon options that don't involve Shepard coming on to people?

You sure can. If they don't uncouple the romance options from the renegade/paragon system, they're nuts.

Bioware games have always had a romance component. Those subplots appeal to a lot of people.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Blacklash93 wrote...
Hate is hate. Whatever the reason.

And gay people have never faced terrible prejudice? People just thought it was wrong and did nothing more? I suggest you look up a few articles.

MACharlie1 wrote...
Whoever "they" is probably also didn't
like to see a heterosexual couple near dry humping each other. And
again, bringing up how people didn't like a black man and white woman
going at it. 

"They" were some friends of mine at a previous place of work. They weren't racist and there is nothing "hateful" about believing homosexuality to be wrong.  Note I say homosexuality and not homosexuals. And you know what, I agree with them. On a moral, religious, and cultural level I think it is wrong. Does that mean homosexuals are bad people? No. Does it mean they can't accomplish the same things as everybody else? No. Most homosexuals I have met are exactly the same as everybody else with the exception of who they slept with.

"People" have done a lot of terrible things over the years. If your implying I should feel guilt for something I never did or suggested, don't bother.

[SarahAnne]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

I concur.  I always play a straight female Shepard and I didn't like the fact that I have to go out of my way avoid a romance with Liara in ME1.  And I didn't like the fact that some characters assumed that my female Shepard is into other women whenever she does something.  

I don't care that Bioware decided to have s/s relationships available, but there should be option to have those dialogue options removed.  

[paptschik]

Siansonea II wrote...

I found the "I expect more class in my brothels" line to be similarly hilarious. Somebody should start a High class Brothels for ME3/DA3 group.

Personally, I think a "high-class" brothel would offer every type of human/elf/quarian/qunari/asari/dwarf/turian that a client might want. I wouldn't assume any client had a preference until he told me, but then I don't run a brothel.

As an interspecies fan, I'd totally go to your brothel.

[Zulmoka531]

Siansonea II wrote...

I found the "I expect more class in my brothels" line to be similarly hilarious. Somebody should start a High class Brothels for ME3/DA3 group.

Personally, I think a "high-class" brothel would offer every type of human/elf/quarian/qunari/asari/dwarf/turian that a client might want. I wouldn't assume any client had a preference until he told me, but then I don't run a brothel.

Actually I liked the DA2 Brothel.."cough" ahem..
But the trap...oh god did that give a Wtf moment lol.

[Siansonea]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

Well, my Shepards have to turn down Tali, even though they would never swing that way. There's no "turn off Talimance" toggle. What's the big deal? And it sounds to me like the most you would have to do is not select a flirt option. So not only would you not have to say no, you would simply never broach the subject with James Vega or whoever. Why is it so hard to not select an option?

[paptschik]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I found the "I expect more class in my brothels" line to be similarly hilarious. Somebody should start a High class Brothels for ME3/DA3 group.

Personally, I think a "high-class" brothel would offer every type of human/elf/quarian/qunari/asari/dwarf/turian that a client might want. I wouldn't assume any client had a preference until he told me, but then I don't run a brothel.

Actually I liked the DA2 Brothel.."cough" ahem..
But the trap...oh god did that give a Wtf moment lol.

Given that it's Dragon Age I was surprised there weren't more and more unusual traps there.
I would've liked a guy ending up revealed as a girl pretending to sound dudeish. Would've been just as hilarious as the not-quite-female.

[MACharlie1]

ReconTeam wrote...
"They" were some friends of mine at a previous place of work. They weren't racist and there is nothing "hateful" about believing homosexuality to be wrong.  Note I say homosexuality and not homosexuals. And you know what, I agree with them. On a moral, religious, and cultural level I think it is wrong. Does that mean homosexuals are bad people? No. Does it mean they can't accomplish the same things as everybody else? No. Most homosexuals I have met are exactly the same as everybody else with the exception of who they slept with.

Can you share with us your moral and cultural level? Since it seems to be on a such higher plane then the rest of us. I'm not bothering with religion because that's another can that as much as I'd like to tear into, I won't. I mean, by moral and cultural levels, isn't pre-martial sex also morally/culturally wrong? 

Seriously. I want to know why exactly it's morally and culturally wrong. Share, please. 

[Erani]

ipgd wrote...

Davian1980 wrote...

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

The same reason your Paragon Shepard has Renegade options he'd never take, and vice-versa?

I mean, it's not like it's not the same exact thing in real life. You have the option to have sex with men, but you don't. Doesn't that make your Shepard more straight, now that he's actively choosing not to have sex with men even when it is a possibility?

Hahahahaha, gawd so now even looking at teh gay line is undesirable. :lol: NOOOO, my eyesssss tehhh gayyyyyyy! <3

BioWare, kindly remove the "neutral" line, it makes no sense, you are either paragon or renegade...none of this wishy washy stuff. 

[jeweledleah]

you know what I dislike? inability as an attached Shepard to tell all those touchy feely asari to "step away from me, I'm taken" or as any Shepard to tell me "I'm not interested in you that way"

why the heck are my shepards forced to smile at them instead?

[MACharlie1]

ReconTeam wrote...
"They" were some friends of mine at a previous place of work. They weren't racist and there is nothing "hateful" about believing homosexuality to be wrong.  Note I say homosexuality and not homosexuals. And you know what, I agree with them. On a moral, religious, and cultural level I think it is wrong. Does that mean homosexuals are bad people? No. Does it mean they can't accomplish the same things as everybody else? No. Most homosexuals I have met are exactly the same as everybody else with the exception of who they slept with.

Can you share with us your moral and cultural level? Since it seems to be on a such higher plane then the rest of us. I'm not bothering with religion because that's another can that as much as I'd like to tear into, I won't. I mean, by moral and cultural levels, isn't pre-martial sex also morally/culturally wrong? 

Seriously. I want to know why exactly it's morally and culturally wrong. Share, please. 

[SarahAnne]

Siansonea II wrote...

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

Well, my Shepards have to turn down Tali, even though they would never swing that way. There's no "turn off Talimance" toggle. What's the big deal? And it sounds to me like the most you would have to do is not select a flirt option. So not only would you not have to say no, you would simply never broach the subject with James Vega or whoever. Why is it so hard to not select an option?

True, you have a point.  If I could avoid flirting with Liara, then I can avoid flirting with any female character.

Modifié par SarahAnne, 19 mai 2011 - 11:09 .