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[thatguy212]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I found the "I expect more class in my brothels" line to be similarly hilarious. Somebody should start a High class Brothels for ME3/DA3 group.

Personally, I think a "high-class" brothel would offer every type of human/elf/quarian/qunari/asari/dwarf/turian that a client might want. I wouldn't assume any client had a preference until he told me, but then I don't run a brothel.

Actually I liked the DA2 Brothel.."cough" ahem..
But the trap...oh god did that give a Wtf moment lol.

In all fairness Serendipity is when one finds something that one was not expecting to find, so it actually was a pretty clever joke

[Inquisitor Recon]

ipgd wrote...
*pic of my grandfather*

Why this assumption that every brothel has to be a run down dump? Where you think Wall Street CEOs go?

[ipgd]

SarahAnne wrote...

I concur.  I always play a straight female Shepard and I didn't like the fact that I have to go out of my way avoid a romance with Liara in ME1.  And I didn't like the fact that some characters assumed that my female Shepard is into other women whenever she does something.  

I don't care that Bioware decided to have s/s relationships available, but there should be option to have those dialogue options removed.  

Would you support a toggle to remove all dialogue options suggesting the possibility of an interracial relationship between female Shepard and Jacob, because some people find it objectional?

Even if your answer were yes, I'd doubt you'd say it out loud -- I'm sure you recognize how and why such a toggle would be offensive to some people.

A "gay toggle" would be offensive in the same exact way to LGBT people/supporters.

Modifié par ipgd, 19 mai 2011 - 11:09 .

[ipgd]

ReconTeam wrote...

ipgd wrote...
*pic of my grandfather*

Why this assumption that every brothel has to be a run down dump? Where you think Wall Street CEOs go?

Expensive call girl agencies that operate discretely?

The Pearl is hardly the type.

[Draph]

I'm all for it, but having an overwrought element of dealing with "gay" members for the sake of being politically correct would just be silly. A good example of this would probably be Anders from DA2 initiating gay romance options. Sure, perhaps he could be swayed by a particularly handsome fellow, and a lot of sweet talk, but he was already established as a bit of a happy-go-lucky lady killer in Awakening (Quote: All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools. - Anders).

This was almost entirely trashed for his appearance in the second game, from the start of the game, and his relationship with Justice was a poor explanation for being an entirely different character. At that point, it should have been a different character. I don't want to see characters from Mass Effect abruptly changed or silly game moments made for the sake of being politically correct, especially when ME2 did such an outstanding job expanding upon the characters from ME1.

[Eyerock]

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

[Inquisitor Recon]

MACharlie1 wrote...
Can you share with us your moral and cultural level? Since it seems to be on a such higher plane then the rest of us. I'm not bothering with religion because that's another can that as much as I'd like to tear into, I won't. I mean, by moral and cultural levels, isn't pre-martial sex also morally/culturally wrong? 

Seriously. I want to know why exactly it's morally and culturally wrong. Share, please. 

I'd rather not get banned for starting a discussion that technically isn't allowed. But why should I have to have to justify my views anymore than I expect you to justify yours?

[FenrisDeSolar]

Davian1980 wrote...

It's weird though. I don't have anything against BW including same sex romance as long as it's a new character but I find the thought of them changing old characters for that a bit... meeh. And now for those of you saying "Just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they're not"... well just because they haven't mentioned it doesn't mean they are.

And here's another thing. Why should I, who plays as a straight Shepard who will not ever swing that way, even have to see the option to start a same sex romance? I mean my Shepard's not like that so why should it even be a dialogue option for me?

My Shepard isn't straight and never will be, so why should she have to see the option to start an opposite sex romance? She doesn't swing that way at all.

[SarahAnne]

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

That would be funny.

[Dark Eff3ct]

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

I would celebrate that moment by dancing

[Kabanya101]

I don't mind same sex romances, but lets keep the romances limited. In ME2, it seemed like everybody wanted a piece of Shep, even when you were just trying to be a nice guy. In ME3, lower the number of possibilities of romances, and make them more in depth, and meaningful like that of the first Mass Effect

[Black Raptor]

ReconTeam wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
Can you share with us your moral and cultural level? Since it seems to be on a such higher plane then the rest of us. I'm not bothering with religion because that's another can that as much as I'd like to tear into, I won't. I mean, by moral and cultural levels, isn't pre-martial sex also morally/culturally wrong? 

Seriously. I want to know why exactly it's morally and culturally wrong. Share, please. 

 

I'd rather not get banned for starting a discussion that technically isn't allowed. But why should I have to have to justify my views anymore than I expect you to justify yours?

Your veiws are unjustifiable. Homosexuals don't choose to be gay. Who they are isn't a choice so it can't be immoral.

Modifié par Black Raptor, 19 mai 2011 - 11:18 .

[Russalka]

People won't be glad to give up their love interests. And I will not make Jacob an exception, that would be typical.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Dark Eff3ct wrote...

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

I would celebrate that moment by dancing

I would love something like this. It would be perfect.

[paptschik]

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

You know, with a new character like Vega? I'd love that.

[thedaigakuinsei]

Kabanya101 wrote...

I don't mind same sex romances, but lets keep the romances limited. In ME2, it seemed like everybody wanted a piece of Shep, even when you were just trying to be a nice guy. In ME3, lower the number of possibilities of romances, and make them more in depth, and meaningful like that of the first Mass Effect

Agreed.  Bioware is probably sensitive to both sides (inclusive without annoying straight guys who want to just play the game).  I have a feeling you'll have to go out of your way and actively pursue a s-s romance in ME3, and they'll probably make it painfully clear that YOU'RE ABOUT TO HIT ON A DUDE to strike a good balance of gamer desires/concerns.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Black Raptor wrote...
Your veiws are unjustifiable.

I beg to differ.

You know, it always boils down to this. I don't think I've ever backed down from my opinions on this site and you really won't be able to convince somebody as horribly stubborn as myself otherwise. So I'd rather not continue the whole morality argument. Needless to say, I think Bioware should respect my opinion just as much as your own.

[Centauri2002]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

*awesome achievement snipped*

So far the only people to congratulate the Fight for the Love thread people were the mods. As someone who believes in games as a way to break down prejudice, I think you guys have done a wonderful job. The content is in!
My gay, bi and lesbian Shepards thank you and so do I.

Haha thanks, Fiddles.

[Erani]

paptschik wrote...

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

You know, with a new character like Vega? I'd love that.

Me too. There's a lot of straight LIs for both genders among the squaddies from ME1/2. Any new LIs should be bi or just gay. Fun.<3

[Black Raptor]

ReconTeam wrote...

Black Raptor wrote...
Your veiws are unjustifiable.

I beg to differ.

You know, it always boils down to this. I don't think I've ever backed down from my opinions on this site and you really won't be able to convince somebody as horribly stubborn as myself otherwise. So I'd rather not continue the whole morality argument. Needless to say, I think Bioware should respect my opinion just as much as your own.

Except it isn't an opinion. You don't choose to be gay, so it can't be immoral. End of. 

[ipgd]

ReconTeam wrote...

Needless to say, I think Bioware should respect my opinion just as much as your own.

Not all opinions are created equal.

[SarahAnne]

thedaigakuinsei wrote...

Kabanya101 wrote...

I don't mind same sex romances, but lets keep the romances limited. In ME2, it seemed like everybody wanted a piece of Shep, even when you were just trying to be a nice guy. In ME3, lower the number of possibilities of romances, and make them more in depth, and meaningful like that of the first Mass Effect

Agreed.  Bioware is probably sensitive to both sides (inclusive without annoying straight guys who want to just play the game).  I have a feeling you'll have to go out of your way and actively pursue a s-s romance in ME3, and they'll probably make it painfully clear that YOU'RE ABOUT TO HIT ON A DUDE to strike a good balance of gamer desires/concerns.

Casey Hudson did say that the s/s romance will be available with how your Shepard acts around them within the game.  Which may indeed mean that your Shepard must actively pursue an s/s romance.  It would make sense.

[Inquisitor Recon]

ipgd wrote...
A "gay toggle" would be offensive in the same exact way to LGBT people/supporters.

And some people find homosexual acts offensive, or just don't like the idea of pre-existing characters being rewritten as bisexual. Saying "They're bigots" isn't a justification to avoid any sort of compromise like an option at the start of the game.

[paptschik]

Erani wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Eyerock wrote...

Personally, I would like a moment akin to when SHepard makes a pass at Samara. What if for example female Shepard finds herself shot down by James Vega who says: "I'm sorry Commander, but I don't swing that way". That would be a rather hilarious moment!

You know, with a new character like Vega? I'd love that.

Me too. There's a lot of straight LIs for both genders among the squaddies from ME1/2. Any new LIs should be bi or just gay. Fun.<3

I'd be for simply gay. Just because that hasn't been done in Bioware games, has it?
Frankly, I would've prefered Fenris and Merrill to be gay/lesbian in DA2 too. (with Isabela as a bi female option and Varric as a straight male option and...just no Anders in the game. at all. not like that.)