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[SennenScale]

Ryzaki wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

Wasn't that the exact wording of Thane's romance trigger? "I want you"

Yeah. If they're gonna be THAT blunt with Thane the guys that fear teh gay won't have anything to fear. 

It was right after telling you about his wife, as I recall.

See guys? Bioware can be clear about romance paths if they want to.

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I think if BioWare makes the m/m flirt option clue something along the lines of "gimme your penis", that ought to take care of any confusion, don't you guys think? I dunno, maybe that's too platonic...

You know some idiot is gonna be like "I thought he wanted to inspect it! I didn't know it was *that* way!!!" 

Really. How can you get confused about Zevran's massage? Some people really need to grow some brains. He even asks "If the opportunity to move past a massage presents itself..." what did they think he was talking about? 

Wait, wut? Moving past a massage obviously means manicures and pedicures. Am I missing something?

[MACharlie1]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I think if BioWare makes the m/m flirt option clue something along the lines of "gimme your penis", that ought to take care of any confusion, don't you guys think? I dunno, maybe that's too platonic...

You know some idiot is gonna be like "I thought he wanted to inspect it! I didn't know it was *that* way!!!" 

Really. How can you get confused about Zevran's massage? Some people really need to grow some brains. He even asks "If the opportunity to move past a massage presents itself..." what did they think he was talking about? 

Honestly - I think some of these players are too young to go up to a counter and buy an M game themselves. 

[Ashira Shepard]

Ryzaki wrote...
Huh? It's 10 seconds of *rejection* not 10 seconds worth of romance. 

The romance is about ten minutes. And it's totally worth it. 

Samara or Kasumi...either one.

But I'll be waiting for Samara

MACharlie1 wrote...

Maybe that's it. If he knows it's
there - he'll be tempted by the gay devil to pursue then be forever
tainted by the sight of two men loving each other. Because that's what
the devils all about, right? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Oh totally.

[Siansonea]

Erani wrote...

@Sian, Nope. That wouldn't be clear enough. Something like "hand approaches private bits" would.

@Cel, why so evil? Conrad would make a fine LI. He just needs to be kept in place...like by a leash or pills....=)

Hmmm. Well, we'll have to put our thinking caps on. Hmmmm...

[Lenimph]

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

[Erani]

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?

[AngelicMachinery]

Erani wrote...

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?

"This one believes you are looking for a kinky good time."

[Siansonea]

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Still not clear enough. Even if James Vega has "I'M GAY, STUPID" painted on his chestplate, somebody will still "accidentally" romance him.

[MACharlie1]

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Customization includes bedazzling in pretty little patterns. <_<

[Siansonea]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Erani wrote...

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?

"This one believes you are looking for a kinky good time."

"This one is pleased to hit that"

[Ryzaki]

SennenScale wrote...
It was right after telling you about his wife, as I recall.

See guys? Bioware can be clear about romance paths if they want to.

Indeed. 

Siansonea II wrote...
Wait, wut? Moving past a massage obviously means manicures and pedicures. Am I missing something?

D: 

I was lied too?!?

MACharlie1 wrote...
Honestly - I think some of these players are too young to go up to a counter and buy an M game themselves. 

Most likely. 

[Blze001]

Siansonea II wrote...

Oh, Verner won't be holding a knife...

Heeeyoooooo!

I'd like to see s/s romances in ME3, simply because I don't view same sex romances any differently than different sex romances. Two people love each other, right on! Happy life to ya. The whole homophobic thing never made sense to me and it's about time people start getting exposed to the idea, it's the only way they'll get the respect they deserve. I kinda liked the DA2 approach, personally. Then again, that could just be because of Merrill...

So long as Damara gets her blue teddy bear back, I'll be happy with ME3. As for a new F/F romance option, I can't really see any of the current gals going for it: Ashley would let the military thing be a block, Miranda just doesn't seem like the type that would go that way and Tali... I just don't see it, tbh. I just hope they don't bring in another Asari or let Liara be the sole F/F option. 

[InvincibleHero]

Nyoka wrote...

People is painting relationships in a way that's factually inaccurate according to what we now so far. Casey Hudson has said pretty clearly they will be reactive to you, not the other way around. You start it, the same way Femshep starts the Garrus romance. At first, he doesn't even know what you mean (he thinks you're talking about sparring), and you have to pick the romance option one more time to clarify what you meant. That's how it's gonna be, people.

"They will ask you for a shag" or "that's it, now they want your ass" are, simply, factually false statements. Please keep in mind what we know about romances before trying to make them look bad.

How do you know this for fact? I bet they considered all DA romances to be reactive to you. You picked dialog lines didn't you?

BW does put words and actions into Shepard that players find inhibits their roleplay and they say I wouldn't have done or said that or I wish I didn't have to buddy buddy with Liara in LOTSB or the big flap over Arrival or fem shep overtly flirty with Jacob, Zevran outright hitting on and propositioning s/s players, perceived punishments for certain actions which is moralizing on BWs part, and I could go on. 

There are legitimate concerns on how they are going to do it. Some people are opposed period and can't be helped. I think BW needs to do a better job than they had in the previous games to make more unobtrusive while some vocal people here want it to be confrontational/visible to promote their perceived rights. Most of the stuff I will brush off, however repeating mistakes is not acceptable. There has to be a way to make it neutral to all sides that they haven't tried yet. However doing so may water down and cheapen all romances.

As I suggested earlier a toggle doesn't have to be all negative. If say you install (optional m/m)  then you can have more interactive content. Like flirting and maybe a better end scene than fade to black after and embrace or a kiss if that. They wouldn't have to be conservative about it at all since you have to check install option at beginning. Conversely it could remove hetero flirting that some may find offensive. Just an idea that they could be better romances if BW didn't have to worry about offending heteros.

I agree they probably won't be that tasteless by having a gay character outright say let's do it with no previous interest shown by the player given past reactions to Zev and Anders.

Until we get the game no one but BW knows the content and direction of the romances. No one knows how the romances are going to shape out so minimization is not a proper response.

[leggywillow]

Siansonea II wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Still not clear enough. Even if James Vega has "I'M GAY, STUPID" painted on his chestplate, somebody will still "accidentally" romance him.

Still not clear enough.

Pictured: Shepard and Kaidan talk to James Vegas (center)

Modifié par leggywillow, 20 mai 2011 - 04:20 .

[M-Sinistrari]

Celrath wrote...


No that can only end badly..

Most likely with Verner holding a knife over Shepards bed. 

Dammit, now I have the urge to sit through Play Misty For Me.

[Erani]

Siansonea II wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Erani wrote...

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?

"This one believes you are looking for a kinky good time."

"This one is pleased to hit that"

Sounds like good romance development. <3

@Cel, that'd be pretty awesome actually.Shep gets killed by Conrad Verner in lover's spat.

[Kyra The Guardian]

Personally, I dont see any issue with it. I think it should be added in. Of course, not forced upon the characters meant to be heterosexual, but on those who would more likely be bi or gay (not using that in an insulting way). Personally I am straight, but I dont see any problem with others having a same-sex relationship with a character. I mean, after all, it is only a game. That could add a bit more realism to it as well, not everyone in reality is straight. yeah, some people arent tolerant of same-sex relationships, but seriously, its not causing any harm to others, so whats the problem? I say go ahaid and add that in, give the player a choice for a same-sex relationship. Id imagine that as long as the character isnt forcing themself on your character, or you can choose to hint that to the character, ect. there really shouldnt be an issue.

Just because I like men, doesnt mean all women are meant to, so same goes for men, not all have to like women. However, if that option is added, I dont think it should be an "every character is bi" thing, again it should be more realistic and have it work with the characters personality.

[Ryzaki]

Nope to count as gay the m/m option has to talk in a lisp, wear rainbow armor and talk about his male sexual conquests all day every day.

[MACharlie1]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

People is painting relationships in a way that's factually inaccurate according to what we now so far. Casey Hudson has said pretty clearly they will be reactive to you, not the other way around. You start it, the same way Femshep starts the Garrus romance. At first, he doesn't even know what you mean (he thinks you're talking about sparring), and you have to pick the romance option one more time to clarify what you meant. That's how it's gonna be, people.

"They will ask you for a shag" or "that's it, now they want your ass" are, simply, factually false statements. Please keep in mind what we know about romances before trying to make them look bad.

How do you know this for fact? I bet they considered all DA romances to be reactive to you. You picked dialog lines didn't you?

BW does put words and actions into Shepard that players find inhibits their roleplay and they say I wouldn't have done or said that or I wish I didn't have to buddy buddy with Liara in LOTSB or the big flap over Arrival or fem shep overtly flirty with Jacob, Zevran outright hitting on and propositioning s/s players, perceived punishments for certain actions which is moralizing on BWs part, and I could go on. 

There are legitimate concerns on how they are going to do it. Some people are opposed period and can't be helped. I think BW needs to do a better job than they had in the previous games to make more unobtrusive while some vocal people here want it to be confrontational/visible to promote their perceived rights. Most of the stuff I will brush off, however repeating mistakes is not acceptable. There has to be a way to make it neutral to all sides that they haven't tried yet. However doing so may water down and cheapen all romances.

As I suggested earlier a toggle doesn't have to be all negative. If say you install (optional m/m)  then you can have more interactive content. Like flirting and maybe a better end scene than fade to black after and embrace or a kiss if that. They wouldn't have to be conservative about it at all since you have to check install option at beginning. Conversely it could remove hetero flirting that some may find offensive. Just an idea that they could be better romances if BW didn't have to worry about offending heteros.

I agree they probably won't be that tasteless by having a gay character outright say let's do it with no previous interest shown by the player given past reactions to Zev and Anders.

Until we get the game no one but BW knows the content and direction of the romances. No one knows how the romances are going to shape out so minimization is not a proper response.

Dragon Age Team =/= Mass Effect team. It might be a strain, but try to remember that. 

[AngelicMachinery]

I for one will never submit to the oppression of the toggle over lord.

[Lenimph]

Actually I really want to be able to make shep's armor rainbow now... rainbow camo....

[MACharlie1]

Ryzaki wrote...

Nope to count as gay the m/m option has to talk in a lisp, wear rainbow armor and talk about his male sexual conquests all day every day.

In between talking about "that biiiitch."