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#5026
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Dragon Age Team =/= Mass Effect team. It might be a strain, but try to remember that. 


Indeed. The ME is perfectly capable of making these options avoidable and clear, like Thane's trigger ("I want you"). Who, keep in mind, is pretty much designed as a romance yet designed to be totally avoidable.

Instead of asking for toggles, let's ask the ME team to make romances clearer.

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Lenimph wrote...

Actually I really want to be able to make shep's armor rainbow now... rainbow camo....


I've been trying to use the save for pink paragon scars myself...  but I haven't figured out how to manage that.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Dragon Age Team =/= Mass Effect team. It might be a strain, but try to remember that. 


Yes, important thing to point out. Helpful to those of us who forget all the time. :police:

Modifié par Erani, 20 mai 2011 - 04:26 .


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People is painting relationships in a way that's factually inaccurate according to what we now so far. Casey Hudson has said pretty clearly they will be reactive to you, not the other way around. You start it, the same way Femshep starts the Garrus romance. At first, he doesn't even know what you mean (he thinks you're talking about sparring), and you have to pick the romance option one more time to clarify what you meant. That's how it's gonna be, people.

"They will ask you for a shag" or "that's it, now they want your ass" are, simply, factually false statements. Please keep in mind what we know about romances before trying to make them look bad.


How do you know this for fact? I bet they considered all DA romances to be reactive to you. You picked dialog lines didn't you?

BW does put words and actions into Shepard that players find inhibits their roleplay and they say I wouldn't have done or said that or I wish I didn't have to buddy buddy with Liara in LOTSB or the big flap over Arrival or fem shep overtly flirty with Jacob, Zevran outright hitting on and propositioning s/s players, perceived punishments for certain actions which is moralizing on BWs part, and I could go on. 

There are legitimate concerns on how they are going to do it. Some people are opposed period and can't be helped. I think BW needs to do a better job than they had in the previous games to make more unobtrusive while some vocal people here want it to be confrontational/visible to promote their perceived rights. Most of the stuff I will brush off, however repeating mistakes is not acceptable. There has to be a way to make it neutral to all sides that they haven't tried yet. However doing so may water down and cheapen all romances.

As I suggested earlier a toggle doesn't have to be all negative. If say you install (optional m/m)  then you can have more interactive content. Like flirting and maybe a better end scene than fade to black after and embrace or a kiss if that. They wouldn't have to be conservative about it at all since you have to check install option at beginning. Conversely it could remove hetero flirting that some may find offensive. Just an idea that they could be better romances if BW didn't have to worry about offending heteros.

I agree they probably won't be that tasteless by having a gay character outright say let's do it with no previous interest shown by the player given past reactions to Zev and Anders.

Until we get the game no one but BW knows the content and direction of the romances. No one knows how the romances are going to shape out so minimization is not a proper response.


I doubt a toggle would appease the "hold my breath until they take out the gay" types. They won't be happy unless the game is certified 100% Gay Male Free. Honestly, BioWare may very well be considering some kind of gameplay options  to show/hide romance dialogue options, who knows.

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Nope to count as gay the m/m option has to talk in a lisp, wear rainbow armor and talk about his male sexual conquests all day every day.

In between talking about "that biiiitch." 


Huh. Whose that b****? 

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I for one will never submit to the oppression of the toggle over lord.


Sexuality is a spectrum, not a toggle. ~ Forum person whose name I forget

That is why A TOGGLE CAN NOT WORK regardless of the waste of zots and unfortunate implications.

ETA: As mentioned below I should clarify that a sexuality ON/OFF toggle can't work, not the colored flirts etc.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 20 mai 2011 - 04:31 .


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MACharlie1 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Customization includes bedazzling in pretty little patterns. <_<



To be honest, I dont think all gay men would have a feminine appearence to them. Im sure some can be just as masculine, if not more, than the "average" or "typical" man. Like sparklies, glitter and rainbows, I dont think theyd all like that. hell, Im a female and I hate most of the things people seem to believ all women like, but Im straight, unlike what many people seem to think. So yeah, I guess I can say thats more of a stereotype XD and Im sure all the masculine gay men would be happy to see this post lol (I kinda feel like im being insulting using the word "gay" by the way...)

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well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P

#5034
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Kyra The Guardian wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Customization includes bedazzling in pretty little patterns. <_<



To be honest, I dont think all gay men would have a feminine appearence to them. Im sure some can be just as masculine, if not more, than the "average" or "typical" man. Like sparklies, glitter and rainbows, I dont think theyd all like that. hell, Im a female and I hate most of the things people seem to believ all women like, but Im straight, unlike what many people seem to think. So yeah, I guess I can say thats more of a stereotype XD and Im sure all the masculine gay men would be happy to see this post lol (I kinda feel like im being insulting using the word "gay" by the way...)

Your sarcasm detector malfunctioned. ;)

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Lenimph wrote...

Actually I really want to be able to make shep's armor rainbow now... rainbow camo....


It would totally be effective camo on certain planets, even.

There were some colorful planets on Mass Effect 1.

Have the two guys go in rainbow camo Survivor suits, rainbow atmosphere and have a walk sexy wrestling match in the rainbow colored gravel, and someone will still romance on accident, I bet.

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Kyra The Guardian wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

It looks like they need to give the new LI's rainbow armor. So no one gets confused -.-

Customization includes bedazzling in pretty little patterns. <_<



To be honest, I dont think all gay men would have a feminine appearence to them. Im sure some can be just as masculine, if not more, than the "average" or "typical" man. Like sparklies, glitter and rainbows, I dont think theyd all like that. hell, Im a female and I hate most of the things people seem to believ all women like, but Im straight, unlike what many people seem to think. So yeah, I guess I can say thats more of a stereotype XD and Im sure all the masculine gay men would be happy to see this post lol (I kinda feel like im being insulting using the word "gay" by the way...)


They're just kidding around. Making fun of the preconceptions a lot of people seem to have about gay/bi folks. :lol:

And gay is fine to describe m/m. Lesbian is the preferred term for f/f. At least, that's what I've been going by all this time, and no one's hit me in the head with a dictionary.B)

Modifié par Siansonea II, 20 mai 2011 - 04:33 .


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jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


True and I've changed my post to specify that a sexuality ON/OFF toggle could not work.  Colored flirt texts or the like could and would be perfectly viable.

#5038
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jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I support the "no training wheels" toggle. :wizard:

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jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I'm all for a colored text toggle and such. 

However, I'd only support a "teh gay romance" toggle if there's a similar "straight romance" toggle.

#5040
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Erani wrote...

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?


Yes!! Hanar Romace!  But I want it to have a feminine voice. Just to be different from the other Hanar!

#5041
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Celrath wrote...

Erani wrote...

I think the hanar are monogendered like the Asari...so hanar bi LI in ME3! I mean if they have only 1 gender, and MShep romances one, then it wouldn't be considered to be teh gay right?


Yes!! Hanar Romace!  But I want it to have a feminine voice. Just to be different from the other Hanar!


Someone had to bring up the Hanar, suffice it to say Rule 34.....:sick:

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

"This one believes you are looking for a kinky good time."


"This one is pleased to hit that"


Great, now I can't stop picturing this...

EDI: "My sensors indicate you want to tap that..."

:D

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Erani wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I'm all for a colored text toggle and such. 

However, I'd only support a "teh gay romance" toggle if there's a similar "straight romance" toggle.


Isn't the toggle.. just don't hit on someone you don't want to romance:P 

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Erani wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I'm all for a colored text toggle and such. 

However, I'd only support a "teh gay romance" toggle if there's a similar "straight romance" toggle.


No toggles!  No gay, no straight,  none! Once a single toggle is passed there will be toggle for everything,  mark my words.  

#5045
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AshiraShepard wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

"This one believes you are looking for a kinky good time."


"This one is pleased to hit that"


Great, now I can't stop picturing this...

EDI: "My sensors indicate you want to tap that..."

:D


I propose we meet the hanar on the cover of fornax or Blasto and make him a LI.

A gun in every tentacle would have been so useful when I was threatened by Aria's thugs.

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I am very happy everyone gets a shot at romance now. I was a bit hacked off there wasn't more of Ashley in ME2, but she's back now so I'm happy, your happy and we can all be happy together!!

#5047
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Celrath wrote...

Erani wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I'm all for a colored text toggle and such. 

However, I'd only support a "teh gay romance" toggle if there's a similar "straight romance" toggle.


Isn't the toggle.. just don't hit on someone you don't want to romance:P 


Pssst! Over here! :whistle:

Yeah, you can't use obvious logic like that around here. Anything that makes perfect sense, yeah, I'm afraid that's just not going to fly. I know, it hurts me too.:unsure:

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Sahariel wrote...

I am very happy everyone gets a shot at romance now. I was a bit hacked off there wasn't more of Ashley in ME2, but she's back now so I'm happy, your happy and we can all be happy together!!


Imagine me and you...and you and me...so happy to-getherrrrrrrr...:P

#5049
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Celrath wrote...

Erani wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

well, like I mentioned and then CGG mentioned like 10 pages later - not all toggles are bad. toggling off all colored text if one so desires could be quite interesting for role playing purposes, since you no longer have an automatic desire to click red or blue or whatever else text.

on a different note, I have an overwhelming urge to post a link to Rammstein's "Mann gegen Mann" video but as its NSFW, I'm attempting to restrain myself and merely mention it so that the curious could go and look it up themselves :P


I'm all for a colored text toggle and such. 

However, I'd only support a "teh gay romance" toggle if there's a similar "straight romance" toggle.


Isn't the toggle.. just don't hit on someone you don't want to romance:P 


LOL, I was jk Cel. The gay toggle just makes no sense. If one doesn't wish to pursue teh gay, one must not click on teh gay line. That's it.

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That's why I was suggesting very clear guide text for the flirt options. Like "I want to interact sexually with your manparts". Wait, that's too long...