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[Jamesnew2]

Hell only reason i've had so many play throughs is so that i can have a char with every romance available for fem-shep (sorry i've been a jennifer hale fan since kotor and mike sounds wierd to me but w/e )       

...anyway liara fem shep romance will always be my cannon for me3.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Nothing is contradicted.  Bisexuals have relationships with the opposite gender.  Garrus recounted the tale of one of his relationships with the opposite gender.
Therefore he fits half the requirements of being bisexual, and omission of his relationships with men is not evidence.

So if people don't clarify that they are straight from the get go then they can be assumed to be bisexual until told?

You can assume anything about anyone until you learn otherwise, yes.

But it's not about assuming that Garrus (or anyone else) is bisexual so much as it is accepting that you don't know for sure.

[PARAGON87]

The devs had to include same-sex romances, as the devs included it the original Mass Effect (though only unlockable though modding).

However later in the ME1 dev cycle this was changed to only heterosexual romance; however, the modders found a way to unlock the homosexual scenes, and those romances had to carry onto ME2 in some way, so the devs made the save file include the MaleShep-Kaidan and FemShep-Ashley romances (interaction works on Horizon), and thus this will carry onto ME3 in some way since it is indeed in the save file.

Though this, I really am not surprised by this announcement at all.

[Siansonea]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...


Nothing is contradicted.  Bisexuals have relationships with the opposite gender.  Garrus recounted the tale of one of his relationships with the opposite gender.

Therefore he fits half the requirements of being bisexual, and omission of his relationships with men is not evidence.

So if people don't clarify that they are straight from the get go then they can be assumed to be bisexual until told?

Sorry if I have misunderstood

But then to contradict myself why would someone need to say "oh I'm bisexual btw" or need to state that had past relationships with the same sex unless it needs to be addressed. So then I kinda agree...

Ah I confuse myself as usual

If people don't state their sexual orientation, it remains an open question, open to assumption, but also open to clarification through declarative statement. I have a married female friend who mentioned in passing at one point that she is bisexual. I didn't know that, and I wouldn't have assumed that, but her declarative statement gave me that information and insight. It is just one of those things that you can't assume, at least not to the exclusion of new information.

[Darth Death]

DaeJi wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Again, if it were so then the male shep would've had options to romance other male characters. There would be love scene, romance dialogue, etc, but it isn't any in the cases of both ME and ME2. 

But it is the case in Mass Effect so "YAY" for gay Shepard.

Let me ask you this: At anytime, where could you romance another male character in both ME & ME2 while playing as the male shep? Please provide some solid evidence. 

[Siansonea]

AshiraShepard wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...
Really, so just because someone is gay, the universe automatically provides someone for them to date? That's pretty nifty. 

WHAT? Where's my girlfriend then? Or did I miss out? Did the universe run out of adorable, pretty ladies? 

Nope, there's still plenty out there. The universe will provide, dear heart. 

[Ashira Shepard]

Anyone else notice Darth isn't answering me on why he's so troubled by other people romancing dudes with their own Shepards?

[Siansonea]

I noticed that too, Ashira. That's a pretty common thread around here. When you hit them with logic, they just ignore you.

[cachx]

Casey Hudson
Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3

http://twitter.com/C...154686367404032

Modifié par cachx, 16 mai 2011 - 03:56 .

[Lenimph]

ZombieGeisha wrote...



So if people don't clarify that they are straight from the get go then they can be assumed to be bisexual until told?

Sorry if I have misunderstood

But then to contradict myself why would someone need to say "oh I'm bisexual btw" or need to state that had past relationships with the same sex unless it needs to be addressed. So then I kinda agree...

Ah I confuse myself as usual

It's your choice to assume what they are unless you're directly told by them what they are.  

Lets say Kaiden is gay in ME3, and he only flirts with Sheploo if shep starts it.  What are you going to assume?  

[ElitePinecone]

Ryzaki wrote...

I made a poll!  

http://social.biowar...4/polls/20086/ 

Try to advertise this as widely as possible (everyone...), I'd love to see the response. 

The general reaction I've observed, and this is totally anecdotally, has been either apathy, genuine excitement or people being pleasd at others' happiness. The level of genuine distaste, outside of a few reactionaries, has been pretty low from everything I've been reading. All in all I think Bioware made a wise decision. They can push the combat and deeper characterisation for the next 9 months and blow everybody away with how awesome ME3 promises to be. 

[Vertigo_1]

http://twitter.com/#...154686367404032

"Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 16 mai 2011 - 03:54 .

[Fault Girl]

CaptainIsabela wrote...


 my Shepard is only interested in women.

Like your Shepard is only interested in the opposite gender.

As I said, you're not specifically going to follow a male romance with your Shepard, so why are you so worried? Because someone elses Shepard will romance a dude? Why does that bother you? It's their game with their Shepard. They aren't hijacking your game and your Shepard and forcing him to romance a guy.

I'm so confused by these people

There was someone on the DA2 boards who said they were bycotting it cos of this issue. Due to them knowing that somewhere else in an alternate universe that someone was having a S/S with Hawke. It's like me looking at cake, liking it and then thinking someone else might be eating it, so then I won't want to eat it.

Bad analogy I know but...

Made me laugh for days

[The Elder King]

I don't see why people are upset by this. I don't want to romance male characters with my male Shepard, so I'll not do it. It's not that you have to do it.
I don't even see the problem with previous characters becoming bi. Unless the situation will be like Jacob (and if Bioware repeats this in ME3 I'll be disappointed, whenever they'll do it with a straigh or bi romance), you can just ignore in your game that some characters are bi. In DA2 Fenris and Merrill aren't obvious bi, it depends only if you pursue a relationship with them (Isabela of course was pretty obvious, and Anders too, even if not at the same level of Isabela).

[RohanDaKitty]

Darth Death wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Again, if it were so then the male shep would've had options to romance other male characters. There would be love scene, romance dialogue, etc, but it isn't any in the cases of both ME and ME2. 

But it is the case in Mass Effect so "YAY" for gay Shepard.

Let me ask you this: At anytime, where could you romance another male character in both ME & ME2 while playing as the male shep? Please provide some solid evidence. 

In the beginning of ME2, Shepard saves Joker by throwing him into an escape pod. And then Shepard... like, dies.

It's very Titanic. If Shepard had made it in the escape pod with him, how do you know they wouldn't have totally made out?

[Ashira Shepard]

Siansonea II wrote...
Nope, there's still plenty out there. The universe will provide, dear heart. 

yay!

Siansonea II wrote...

I noticed that too, Ashira. That's a pretty common thread around here. When you hit them with logic, they just ignore you.

@AhiraShepard, it's because the implicit assumption that catching teh gay ruins people. Have you noticed how they are okay with characters they don't care about catching teh gay, but they WON'T HAVE their dear BBFs coming out? That has been happening a lot. "I'm okay if they make new characters bi, but NOT MY KAIDAN!!!" Or "Garrus is my bro for life. Don't you DARE to infect him with teh gay!!!"

Yeeeeah. Noticed this :<

Personally I do not care if one of my friend's zig-zag like a drunk bumblebee between straight, bi and gay or anything else they could possibly be. My only concern is that they don't get hurt. Whatever they do in the bedroom is their business, and it's not my place to intrude.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 16 mai 2011 - 03:57 .

[Black Raptor]

Maybe being gay was never frowned upon in certain alien cultures and because of that, certain alien romance options never bothered to mention they had been with in s/s relationships, because to them it was a non-issue.

[ElitePinecone]

cachx wrote...

Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3

This is from Casey Hudson's Twitter.

More clarification is good. 

Hm. Points to maybe new characters for s/s, and not old ones? Interesting. 

[DaeJi]

Darth Death wrote...

Let me ask you this: At anytime, where could you romance another male character in both ME & ME2 while playing as the male shep? Please provide some solid evidence. 

Don't need to, Mass Effect 3 gay Shepard! Mass Effect 3 gay Shepard! Mass Effect 3 gay Shepard! Mass Effect 3 gay Shepard! Mass Effect 3 gay Shepard!

Also, Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 are not the complete story of Shepard and whatever romance anyone decided or decides to pursue will be completed in Mass Effect 3. And in case you do not know this, and you don't, most action stories that contain a romance subplot have it pay off in the third act.

I have just defeated you in an internet argument. Any post that does not admit defeat will be petty. 

[CroGamer002]

Also I'd like to add that only time ManShep can say he is gay, kinda, is with Mordin.

[MrDizazta]

Look at Casey's newest tweet

[Wereparrot]

My opinions may already have been expressed, but they weren't on the first page and I'm not reading all these pages, so here goes.

Regardless of any rubbish you may give me about Liara, who is neither male nor female but something entirely different according to the nature of the asari existence, Shepherd was established in ME1 as straight. Bioware had an opportunity to make Shepherd bi with ME2 and they missed it, and an opportunity of this kind will not present itself again. Bioware have brought their flagship franchise into disrepute, and compromised the integrity of the main character. All I will say is: political correctness is a poor substitute for character integrity. The same thing happened with Anders in DAII: by what he said in Awakening he is clearly straight, but Bioware raped his character in DAII for whatever reason.

Modifié par Wereparrot, 16 mai 2011 - 03:59 .

[Ryzaki]

ElitePinecone wrote...

cachx wrote...

Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3

This is from Casey Hudson's Twitter.

More clarification is good. 

Hm. Points to maybe new characters for s/s, and not old ones? Interesting. 

That better mean Joker.