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[Temper_Graniteskul]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...I'd like to see a plain 'I'm just not interested' or a heavy-handed 'You're a pig' (seriously, at least one of his lines to Kelly was ever so skeevy). Something to counter every other named female human and alien kissing him, fondling him, or being willing to have sex with him.

I wouldn't mind it if this happened. Does paragon shep still say something like that to kelly? Although Shepard is awesome and theres really no other words needed to explain why everybody wants him/her.

Yeah. It's when she's commenting on Garrus and wanting to just hold him and comfort him (or similar). From the paraphrase I thought he was going to encourage her ('You go, girl!), but he ended up with that creepy MShep 'smile'/leer and asked if she'd do the same for him. Blech. *shudder* It was very skeevy. Where's that MShep motivational with the 'I have candy/Get in the van' line when you need it?

I only run Paragons; I can't stand the Renedouche, which explains why I haven't seen the other Samara line that Siansonea mentioned. Makes sense, though.

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 21 mai 2011 - 04:59 .

[lolwut666]

Dr. Chakwas felt like an entirely different person in ME2.

In ME1, she was more spirited and fast-talking. In ME2, it feels like she could drop dead at any time.

The Brandy chat was nearly as much of a snorefest to me as the chat with Liara after LotSB (assuming you didn't romance her).

[RaenImrahl]

lolwut666 wrote...

The Brandy chat was nearly as much of a snorefest to me as the chat with Liara after LotSB (assuming you didn't romance her).

I think some of that is inevitable in a sequel...  I would have undoubtly appreciated it more had I played ME1 first.

[PlumPaul93]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...I'd like to see a plain 'I'm just not interested' or a heavy-handed 'You're a pig' (seriously, at least one of his lines to Kelly was ever so skeevy). Something to counter every other named female human and alien kissing him, fondling him, or being willing to have sex with him.

I wouldn't mind it if this happened. Does paragon shep still say something like that to kelly? Although Shepard is awesome and theres really no other words needed to explain why everybody wants him/her.

Yeah. It's when she's commenting on Garrus and wanting to just hold him and comfort him (or similar). From the paraphrase I thought he was going to encourage her ('You go, girl!), but he ended up with that creepy MShep 'smile'/leer and asked if she'd do the same for him. Blech. *shudder* It was very skeevy. Where's that MShep motivational with the 'I have candy/Get in the van' line when you need it?

I only run Paragons; I can't stand the Renedouche, which explains why I haven't seen the other Samara line that Siansonea mentioned. Makes sense, though.

He was just flirting . I'd call it more cheesy than anything else, to be honest all the romances are pretty cheesy...

[Squidbreath]

Girls: Jack's already bi since she said so, wouldn't be a surprise. Hopefully, they'll keep Kelly that way too, I need her to feed ma fish. More Sha'ira wouldn't hurt either.

Guys: I'd take Joker any day, since the other 2 available human males are Mr Prize & Mr "Why can't I punch him in the face on Horizon?"

Other:
- Jame's a heavy suspect.
- Gianna Parasini
- Gabby & Kenneth (possible reason for why they're best friends, but presumably w/o benefits)
Think Kenny was supposed to be a light romance like Kelly. Maybe as long as no bastards killed him off in ME2?

...And quite possibly if you paid Zaeed enough.


((Why the concern over gay/bi Sheploo in a game where you can shtup dinosaurs & blue girls with hair tentacles??? Is it officially more offensive than borderline-beastiality now? ))

Modifié par Squidbreath, 21 mai 2011 - 05:15 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Squidbreath wrote...

- Gabby & Kenneth (possible reason for why they're best friends, but presumably w/o benefits)
Think Kenny was supposed to be a light romance like Kelly. Maybe as long as no bastards killed him off in ME2?

Ken was supposed to be a light romance! ...for straight female Shepards! *headdesk*

But I would absolutely love to get more, shall we say, familiar with Kenneth in ME3. I think if more "light romances" were introduced, they should all be bisexual, if Kelly is our precedent for such things. And, concerning Ken being "killed off" in ME2, he [SPOILER?] actually can't be killed. If you arrive too late to save all of your crew from the Collectors, it's Gabby who dies, and Ken won't talk to you. So maybe that will be Ken's prerequisite for getting in his pants: you have to save Gabby in ME2 in order to earn his affections!

...And quite possibly if you paid Zaeed enough.

I've been saying this since... forever.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 21 mai 2011 - 05:30 .

[Maugrim]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Squidbreath wrote...

...And quite possibly if you paid Zaeed enough.

I've been saying this since... forever. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

People this would never work, we all know how Zaeed's assignments all end...

"And I was the only goddamned one to make it out alive!"

Do you want to get Shepard killed?!

[Temper_Graniteskul]

makenzieshepard wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Squidbreath wrote...

...And quite possibly if you paid Zaeed enough.

I've been saying this since... forever. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

People this would never work, we all know how Zaeed's assignments all end...

"And I was the only goddamned one to make it out alive!"

Do you want to get Shepard killed?!

Eh, I'm sure Shep's used to it by now. Coming back from being dead probably wouldn't cost 4 billion credits the second time around.

How would that work, anyway? Sex with Zaeed is so awesome, it kills mortal men? The guy's badass, but I'm not sure he's that badass.

[SennenScale]

Siansonea II wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

While Samara didn't end up an LI, she didn't exactly say no, either. Her rejection was couched in 'if I were younger I'd totally do you' terms, or at least that's how it came across to me. Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see one non-DLC female on the Normandy that wouldn't have sex with MShep, I just wish it had been less 'maybe 300 years ago' and more 'just no.'

*snip*

Well, if you play as Douchegade Shepard, Samara's answer is more like "You're lucky I can't kill you because of my oath—yet"^_^

More squaddies should make some kind of distinction between Renegade and Paragon Shepards. I know there are several squaddies that don't neatly fit into those two catagories, but I see most of them as appreciating you leaning one way or the other. *wishes for a squadmate influence system*

[KawaiiKatie]

makenzieshepard wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Squidbreath wrote...

...And quite possibly if you paid Zaeed enough.

I've been saying this since... forever. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

People this would never work, we all know how Zaeed's assignments all end...

"And I was the only goddamned one to make it out alive!"

Do you want to get Shepard killed?!

After all the time it took for my gayShep to find a man, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how his journey ended.

It would be a good death.

[lolwut666]

SennenScale wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

While Samara didn't end up an LI, she didn't exactly say no, either. Her rejection was couched in 'if I were younger I'd totally do you' terms, or at least that's how it came across to me. Don't get me wrong, it was nice to see one non-DLC female on the Normandy that wouldn't have sex with MShep, I just wish it had been less 'maybe 300 years ago' and more 'just no.'

*snip*

Well, if you play as Douchegade Shepard, Samara's answer is more like "You're lucky I can't kill you because of my oath—yet"^_^

More squaddies should make some kind of distinction between Renegade and Paragon Shepards. I know there are several squaddies that don't neatly fit into those two catagories, but I see most of them as appreciating you leaning one way or the other. *wishes for a squadmate influence system*

The Samara thing is pretty silly, because her attitude towards you is solely based upon which alignment is dominant, even if by just a couple of points.

There should at least be a grey area where she is all like "Yeah, well... You did some bad things, but you're kinda alright, I guess. I probably won't have kill you once I'm done with your mission", rather than "I think I'm in love with you, my angel" or "You're a dick and you're lucky I'm under oath".

[SennenScale]

lolwut666 wrote...

The Samara thing is pretty silly, because her attitude towards you is solely based upon which alignment is dominant, even if by just a couple of points.

There should at least be a grey area where she is all like "Yeah, well... You did some bad things, but you're kinda alright, I guess. I probably won't have kill you once I'm done with your mission", rather than "I think I'm in love with you, my angel" or "You're a dick and you're lucky I'm under oath".

Wasn't the point of Samara taking the Justicar code so that she would be able to see things in black and white? She's not supposed to be flexible/think about grey...the code is meant to cover every scenario a Justicar could run into so she will always know what to do without needing to be burdened with moral dilemmas, if I understand it right. Plus, when she talks about hunting Nihlus, she admits he might have been a been a good spectre, but she had to pursue him anyway.

I think the Renegade response should have been triggered at around 45% renegade or higher, regardless of paragon score, rather than the current system. I don't think the idea should be tossed out the window just because it wasn't implemented as well as it could have been, though.


EDIT: Because I am getting somewhat off topic

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Ken was supposed to be a light romance! ...for straight female Shepards! *headdesk*

But I would absolutely love to get more, shall we say, familiar with
Kenneth in ME3. I think if more "light romances" were introduced, they
should all be bisexual, if Kelly is our precedent for such things. And,
concerning Ken being "killed off" in ME2, he [SPOILER?] actually can't
be killed. If you arrive too late to save all of your crew from the
Collectors, it's Gabby who dies, and Ken won't talk to you. So maybe
that will be Ken's prerequisite for getting in his pants: you have to
save Gabby in ME2 in order to earn his affections!

I'm
not sure how I feel about light romances...if it is more in depth than
Kelly, I'd pursue one though. For at least one playthrough.

Modifié par SennenScale, 21 mai 2011 - 08:12 .

[GameBoyish]

SilentNukee wrote...

Somebody wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Looking for some NPCs that are up for one night stands?

Sure, why not?  Some single Sheps might not want full fledged romance but definitely some sexy companionship before the Reapers rip everyone apart.

A brothel would also be nice. Lets go to Azure. 

I was just going to write this.

We need a Space brothel. As fancy looking as the Blooming Rose but with fun "surprises" like the Pearl!

Heck, naughty Sheps and single Sheps can have a great choice of male, female, trangendered or "surprises" of any species!

Haha imagine what an Elcor or Hanar prostitute would say.

The elcor one might say something like this

I usually enjoy checking out in-game brothels in DA for lulz. Serendipity is a cute transvestite ^^ And that handsome dwarf Too bad you can't have a romance with Varric

S/S options in a Space Brothel PLEASE! XD

[GameBoyish]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Squidbreath wrote...

- Gabby & Kenneth (possible reason for why they're best friends, but presumably w/o benefits)
Think Kenny was supposed to be a light romance like Kelly. Maybe as long as no bastards killed him off in ME2?

Ken was supposed to be a light romance! ...for straight female Shepards! *headdesk*

But I would absolutely love to get more, shall we say, familiar with Kenneth in ME3. I think if more "light romances" were introduced, they should all be bisexual, if Kelly is our precedent for such things. And, concerning Ken being "killed off" in ME2, he [SPOILER?] actually can't be killed. If you arrive too late to save all of your crew from the Collectors, it's Gabby who dies, and Ken won't talk to you. So maybe that will be Ken's prerequisite for getting in his pants: you have to save Gabby in ME2 in order to earn his affections!

He can be killed. Go and do tonnes of missions post-kidnapping then you will find only Chakwas. Either that or don't give the survivors an escort.

My first playthrough had Ken survive but Gabby died. The survivors got an escort. They were my OTP

[lolwut666]

SennenScale wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

The Samara thing is pretty silly, because her attitude towards you is solely based upon which alignment is dominant, even if by just a couple of points.

There should at least be a grey area where she is all like "Yeah, well... You did some bad things, but you're kinda alright, I guess. I probably won't have kill you once I'm done with your mission", rather than "I think I'm in love with you, my angel" or "You're a dick and you're lucky I'm under oath".

Wasn't the point of Samara taking the Justicar code so that she would be able to see things in black and white? She's not supposed to be flexible/think about grey...the code is meant to cover every scenario a Justicar could run into so she will always know what to do without needing to be burdened with moral dilemmas, if I understand it right. Plus, when she talks about hunting Nihlus, she admits he might have been a been a good spectre, but she had to pursue him anyway.

I think the Renegade response should have been triggered at around 45% renegade or higher, regardless of paragon score, rather than the current system. I don't think the idea should be tossed out the window just because it wasn't implemented as well as it could have been, though.

Good point.

I forgot about that..

[M-Sinistrari]

TriviaAeducan wrote...
My first playthrough had Ken survive but Gabby died. The survivors got an escort. They were my OTP

While I've yet to have that happen on a playthrough, I did catch the dialog on youtube.  God, it's pretty heartwrenching.

[Cootie]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

People this would never work, we all know how Zaeed's assignments all end...

"And I was the only goddamned one to make it out alive!"

Do you want to get Shepard killed?!

After all the time it took for my gayShep to find a man, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how his journey ended.

It would be a good death.

Zaeed would collect a trophy from his conquest.


o.o

[JediMB]

makenzieshepard wrote...

People this would never work, we all know how Zaeed's assignments all end...

"And I was the only goddamned one to make it out alive!"

Do you want to get Shepard killed?!

...

Okay, now I'm going to have to put together a save where Zaeed is the sole survivor of the suicide mission.

(Well, him and Doctor Chakwas.)

[brain_damage]

I'm surprised how they go all "lalalalalala she's not female because WE SAY SO" on Liara. The feminine features and forms, the breasts, EVERYTHING. I'm pretty sure that in order to avoir controversy, in ME3 *insert woman love interest here* will wear an "I'm not female" t-shirt and everything will be okay. Because she won't be female. Because the devs say so. Instant non-gay love interest, just add water.

[SilentNukee]

brain_damage wrote...

I'm surprised how they go all "lalalalalala she's not female because WE SAY SO" on Liara. The feminine features and forms, the breasts, EVERYTHING. I'm pretty sure that in order to avoir controversy, in ME3 *insert woman love interest here* will wear an "I'm not female" t-shirt and everything will be okay. Because she won't be female. Because the devs say so. Instant non-gay love interest, just add water.

Pretty sure she might be lacking 1 or 2 things that...we human females have, because of the way they reproduce, and it doesn't have to be physical.
But besides that...I think they like to say she's not a "female" because of the lack of m/m romances, and they don't want to make the gay male community feel bad.
But...We all know she is.

[Black Raptor]

SilentNukee wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

I'm surprised how they go all "lalalalalala she's not female because WE SAY SO" on Liara. The feminine features and forms, the breasts, EVERYTHING. I'm pretty sure that in order to avoir controversy, in ME3 *insert woman love interest here* will wear an "I'm not female" t-shirt and everything will be okay. Because she won't be female. Because the devs say so. Instant non-gay love interest, just add water.

Pretty sure she might be lacking 1 or 2 things that...we human females have, because of the way they reproduce, and it doesn't have to be physical.
But besides that...I think they like to say she's not a "female" because of the lack of m/m romances, and they don't want to make the gay male community feel bad.
But...We all know she is.

It may not be physical sex, but the baby has to come out of somewhere. 

[ElitePinecone]

Just caught up with some of this...

I actually really enjoyed the Chakwas brandy conversation. Maybe it was just nostalgia for ME, or the way she referenced so many past characters (Jenkins!), but it was quite moving and a significant moment for her character.

I do agree that she went from relatively chirpy to despondent and, well, depressed, but people change over two years. I'd love similar friendship conversations or platonic relationships with other characters, especially ones we don't romance.

Two friendship lines with Garrus or Jacob when you don't romance them felt very lean. I barely got to know the characters beyond their loyalty mission. I'm hoping a smaller squad will allow more depth in the content of all relationship paths, LI or otherwise.

[SennenScale]

brain_damage wrote...

I'm surprised how they go all "lalalalalala she's not female because WE SAY SO" on Liara. The feminine features and forms, the breasts, EVERYTHING. I'm pretty sure that in order to avoir controversy, in ME3 *insert woman love interest here* will wear an "I'm not female" t-shirt and everything will be okay. Because she won't be female. Because the devs say so. Instant non-gay love interest, just add water.

Even if people want to say Liara wasn't lesbian/bisexual, I still can't wrap my head around how people ignore the part where FemShep finds the female form sexually attractive.

[Centauri2002]

SennenScale wrote...

Even if people want to say Liara wasn't lesbian/bisexual, I still can't wrap my head around how people ignore the part where FemShep finds the female form sexually attractive.

It's easy to not believe something when you don't want to see it, I suppose.

As for the brandy scene mentioned above, I rather enjoyed it too. Definitely a nostalgic moment but I liked those. I wish Shepard could have more friendly moments like that with her old team mates. I can understand her not getting drunk around the newer members of the crew but hopefully that will change in ME3.