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[Abispa]

Clonedzero wrote...

people are STILL arguing?

everyone should shut up till we find out more info cus at this point everyones just repeating arguments that happened 50 pages back lol.

I keep trying to derail it with by revealing all my bizarre fetishes, but they still persist. So frustrating.

[AngelicMachinery]

paptschik wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Honestly, I don't even care about Ashley and Kaiden and could see it, going from some points brought up here. Personally I'd only hope for Garrus, Tali and Joker to be straight...just because that's how I see them by now..

You see I don't really understand this kind of reasoning,  why is the straightness of these three character more important than any other character on the Normandy.  Could you perhaps go into why you feel this way, outside of just "It's how I feel?"

It's more important for those characters because they're my favorites. It would also bother my if other favorites like Kelly or Zevran would suddenly be straight or gay-only.
With characters I simply don't care as much about, no matter how much I like them, it is easier for me to go "huh...ok, good for everyone that wanted this".
I just have gained a certain point of view and do not like to be told that "sorry, your canon is now officially incorrect".

I suppose, you see I'd be quite agitated if someone made Zevran and Kelly straight or gayi only myself because there particular sexuality is rather key to their personality.  They are open about it,  they talk about it constantly. It would also irritate the hell out of me that content was being removed from either gays or straights. 

On the other hand,  Tali herself seems to skirt the boarder of being bi curious or even bi in my eyes.  I'm npt quite sure about Garrus,  he's really one of the characters that have gotten fairly little character growth outside of a romance and I've personally never went through with the particular plot point.

[Sunnie]

paptschik wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

And I'll go one further.. Tali goes as far as wanting to and offering to link suits with Fem!Shep, gets all flustered, and was originally intended to be an LI for Fem!Shep. When I first played ME2, I got the very distinct impression Tali was wanting a romantic relationship with my Shepard.

Which is good for you. I don't say anything against that and I don't see any problem with wanting it.
And if Tali had been bi from the start, I'd probably have no problem with this anyway. Hell, if I had known from the start, that this was the intention, I probably wouldn't have the issue. But I got into the game not knowing that.

I thkink thats something that some of us have trouble understanding. There was all the lead up and indication that some of these characters were indeed attracted to the same gender type, and obvious that they were artificially stopped because of some decision close to the end of development. Tali, Jack, even Samara.  So when someone with your view says that they can't see the change, those of us that saw them get cut off just go .

[paptschik]

Eromenos wrote...

If we apply what I said about Kaidan or Ashley onto these 3...Garrus/Joker/Tali...would it still bug you? They'd be bi, yet "str8-acting." Just knowing that they're bi would be kind of a letdown? 

It would not bother me in-game at all. But there would be the voice in the back of my head that keeps telling me that my canon is wrong now. I just don't like being wrong, at least in regards to favorite characters.
All the good in the end WOULD overshadow the bad, just like how I still love DA2 despite reused dungeons, pop-up enemies and just HATING how Anders written (in general, not just in terms of romance).
I could live with it. I wouldn't want it, I wouldn't be happy about it, but beyond a moment of disappointment I guess there wouldn't be much coming from me.
Just like how those that WANT certain characters to be bi would be disappointed if they turn out to not be. It's a lose-lose situation, one party will end up a bit bummed out by the choice bioware eventually makes, all we'll be able to do in the end is to move on and enjoy the game.

[Eromenos]

jeweledleah wrote...

Eromenos wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

depends on how its handled.  I mentioned it before on this thread, but in ME1 Kaidan and Ash are in love with oposite sex Shepard with the slightest encouragement (or no encouragement at all, depending on how you see it)  they get enfatuated starting with Eden prime and from then on feelings only get stronger.  all you have to do is be nice to them. but they don't feel the same way about same sex Shepard - there's nothing but friendship and/or respect there.  so if they show it as them hiding those feelings for so long, even though I have seen them as completely incapable of hiding their atraction even despite the regs?  to me that would be changing their character.  but if its handled as if your Shepard was pining and just now has a choice to see if he/she can get them to reciprocate (or even if the Shepard just now sees them as more then just a friend and relationship starts from there) - then it won't change their character one bit, only some of the Shepards relationship with them

all I personaly want is that they treat whatever character expansion they do in the same way.  I want these characters and their behaviour to make sense concidering all the possible ME universes, not just each individual one.

What you're proposing is forced-narrative on Shepard, who we're supposed to have more control over than the NPCs. What you're proposing is a PSA for uncomfortable segments of straight people who need some catering tossed at them to show how it's "ok" for Shepard to change. i.e., a pitiful queer stereotype stuck in a heteronormative world that would dishonorably discharge him for his feelings, at least when ME was first developed.

How about the queer POV? For actual queer gamers, not something that's bent to make mainstream culture more "accepting?"

Do not play so closely with BioWare's homophobic proprietary reasoning. Your Shepard is straight. My Shepard is gay. You had the luxury of BioWare playing up to your wants. I did not get those luxuries or even respect, but that does not mean I never maintained my Shepard the way I wanted him to be, within the confines of diminished choices. Those of us who are queer, queer-friendly, or otherwise play Shepard as a gay commander who likes same-sex humans, we hold little stock in the BS of the Eden Prime scenario. That was unfavorable forced-narrative that started a nauseating pattern of trying to compel every gamer to be someone we might not necessarily want to be, which is a hypocritical departure from Hudson's original spiels about our choices shaping the universe, etc.

Deconstruct the Eden Prime scenario. So what if BioWare shipped ME the way it was? I will not give credit to their cop-out.

sigh.

you didn't get my point at all.

nowhere did I say that you Shepard wasn't gay.  nowhere did I say that Kaidan and Ash were straight.

all I said is that they showed NO atraction to same sex Shepard in ME1.  creating a setup where they were hiding that atraction changes their personality.  I'm not the one who wants to shape the npc's.  you are.

I'm not suggesting that you said that I can't be gay as Shepard. Your proposal though, was to help convince the people who are resistant to the idea. That's honorable, but I also disagree with you because we need to get past the "coming-out" shtick. Frankly we should ignore the people who likely won't even play queer romances with Kaidan or Ashley.

You mentioned Hudson does not want any retcons or plot conflicts in the ME world. How does Shepard/Kaidan/Ashley being able to "go gay" with another human come as a retcon or conflict to you or I? I'm sure we agree about the validity of Shepard being gay/straight/bi etc from the start. So that's easy for us, but hard/impossible for others to accept when it comes to the queer parts. That's the complainers' problem, not ours, and hopefully BioWare will decide that it is not their problem either. The burden of believability should stay squarely on the folks who dig in their heels against this.

I am not proposing that Kaidan or Ashley be in-the-closet. The only times I mention such a scenario is where I'm guessing the resistant people fear such an outcome. Ironically, I fear it too but whereas those folks are against "changing" those characters at all, I'm more against having to sit through those asinine PSAs I mentioned before. Nobody needs the latter scenario. If a gay Shepard begins a romance with Kaidan or Ashley in ME3, then it should be the same as if a straight Shepard does.

Modifié par Eromenos, 21 mai 2011 - 05:58 .

[paptschik]

Abispa wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

people are STILL arguing?

everyone should shut up till we find out more info cus at this point everyones just repeating arguments that happened 50 pages back lol.

I keep trying to derail it with by revealing all my bizarre fetishes, but they still persist. So frustrating.

I brought up the topic of lesbian Krogans and how much I loved the Salarian-Asari relationship that was somewhat present in the form of that NPC with his stepdaughter (? i think she was?), but nobody cared either.

Same with the topic of Garrus-ass.

[Abispa]

Canadish wrote...

So long as I can turn people down nicely, then I'm all for it.
The only reason Anders pissed me off in DA2 was because Hawke could only say "YES" or get all aggressive about it. So really, it was the writer, rather then the character of Anders.

I really didn't mind this at all. The Anders/Justice hybrid is clearly passionate, paranoid and desperate and I found his attitude fit the mental state he was in in DA2. Of course he clings to the only person he's ever met that doesn't freak out to discover he's an abomination, and his angry retort when turned down is in keeping with his resentment over being told what to do his whole life. He rants at Isabella for not being fully supportive, he accuses Aveline of secretly working with the Templars, and his over the top reaction to Hawke choosing to betray Fenris was a particularly tragic moment for me looking back at the happy go lucky guy from DA:A.

In fact, I would like to see more varied reactions from the cast over romances with the Bioware hero. All I ask is that they make sense for the character reacting. Everything from aggresively pursuing him/her to turning him/her down gently to beating the hell ouf of him/her for cheating. I wouldn't want the soap opera moments to totally take over the game, but if they're there, they should be varied.

[paptschik]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

On the other hand,  Tali herself seems to skirt the boarder of being bi curious or even bi in my eyes.  I'm npt quite sure about Garrus,  he's really one of the characters that have gotten fairly little character growth outside of a romance and I've personally never went through with the particular plot point.

In terms of Tali, I personally would want for the one thing people see as a hint of bi to actually be available to those not romancing her as well. The thought of being so close, beyond relationship. I personally choose to see the suit-connecting thing as very intimate bonding that could happen between anyone that is so close, not just in a relationship.
I can see why you'd see it as a sign of bisexuality. I can. It just didn't occur to me when I got that moment. Not that that moment is even necessary. I would like some pairings in the game that have had much much MUCH less of a presence, which is why I can't and won't act like Tali being bi is wrong or anything. It may make total sense...and hey, by the fifth playhtrough I'm probably used to the thought....but it takes a while to even get to that point. I have view of my favorite characters stuck in my head, changing that isn't so easy, not even for myself.

[paptschik]

Sunnie22 wrote...

I thkink thats something that some of us have trouble understanding. There was all the lead up and indication that some of these characters were indeed attracted to the same gender type, and obvious that they were artificially stopped because of some decision close to the end of development. Tali, Jack, even Samara.  So when someone with your view says that they can't see the change, those of us that saw them get cut off just go .

Samara is an asari, of course she's "bi" as a default...but as a Justicar I see her as "above" those things in general.
Jack to me seemed like she's not against women but just prefers dudes.
And Tali, as I said, it didn't occur to me when that particular moment was brought up. With both male and female Shepard I just thought about it as mostly adorable. Maybe because whatshername'Raan mentioned doing it with Tali's mother to be present at Tali's birth affected my view of the suit-linking thing, I don't know, but I didn't see as explicitly referring to sexual attraction but more to trust and friendship.

[Siansonea]

paptschik wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

people are STILL arguing?

everyone should shut up till we find out more info cus at this point everyones just repeating arguments that happened 50 pages back lol.

I keep trying to derail it with by revealing all my bizarre fetishes, but they still persist. So frustrating.

I brought up the topic of lesbian Krogans and how much I loved the Salarian-Asari relationship that was somewhat present in the form of that NPC with his stepdaughter (? i think she was?), but nobody cared either.

Same with the topic of Garrus-ass.

I loved the salarian and his asari daughter (wasn't it his daughter?) on Illium. That's a conversation I almost always stop to overhear. Most of the conversations on that area of Illium are pretty cool.

[Abispa]

Siansonea II wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

people are STILL arguing?

everyone should shut up till we find out more info cus at this point everyones just repeating arguments that happened 50 pages back lol.

I keep trying to derail it with by revealing all my bizarre fetishes, but they still persist. So frustrating.

I brought up the topic of lesbian Krogans and how much I loved the Salarian-Asari relationship that was somewhat present in the form of that NPC with his stepdaughter (? i think she was?), but nobody cared either.

Same with the topic of Garrus-ass.

I loved the salarian and his asari daughter (wasn't it his daughter?) on Illium. That's a conversation I almost always stop to overhear. Most of the conversations on that area of Illium are pretty cool.

I believe the Asari is the Salarian's wife's daughter, but I do get the feeling that her father was a Salarian as well.

EDIT: I loved the Volus buying the high performance suit, getting turned on by the sales woman, but then not having enough money to buy it.

Modifié par Abispa, 21 mai 2011 - 06:14 .

[paptschik]

Siansonea II wrote...

I loved the salarian and his asari daughter (wasn't it his daughter?) on Illium. That's a conversation I almost always stop to overhear. Most of the conversations on that area of Illium are pretty cool.

I think (though could be wrong) that he brings up that he is NOT her father and they're on this vacation together to get to know each other better and that he wants to get his wife something nice, because the stepdaughters father always brought her gifts when he was alive or something like that.

Those two I ALWAYS listen two. Those two and the Turian and Quarian in the bar are probably my favorite not-main-characters in the game (well, those and the Biotic God of course)

I also liked the Asari that seems to be in a relationship with an Elcor in one of the shops on the Citadel. And of course the Asari and Krogan you can help get together.
I'm just a sucker for interspecies love.

EDIT: I wrote Volus instead of Elcor. Me is stupid.

Modifié par paptschik, 21 mai 2011 - 06:16 .

[Abispa]

BIOTIC GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm compelled to yell that out each time someone else brings up His Awesomeness. Drives my family nuts whenever they hear me. Oh well.

[Siansonea]

Abispa wrote...

Canadish wrote...

So long as I can turn people down nicely, then I'm all for it.
The only reason Anders pissed me off in DA2 was because Hawke could only say "YES" or get all aggressive about it. So really, it was the writer, rather then the character of Anders.

I really didn't mind this at all. The Anders/Justice hybrid is clearly passionate, paranoid and desperate and I found his attitude fit the mental state he was in in DA2. Of course he clings to the only person he's ever met that doesn't freak out to discover he's an abomination, and his angry retort when turned down is in keeping with his resentment over being told what to do his whole life. He rants at Isabella for not being fully supportive, he accuses Aveline of secretly working with the Templars, and his over the top reaction to Hawke choosing to betray Fenris was a particularly tragic moment for me looking back at the happy go lucky guy from DA:A.

In fact, I would like to see more varied reactions from the cast over romances with the Bioware hero. All I ask is that they make sense for the character reacting. Everything from aggresively pursuing him/her to turning him/her down gently to beating the hell ouf of him/her for cheating. I wouldn't want the soap opera moments to totally take over the game, but if they're there, they should be varied.

I would hate Anders if he was a real person, but I love him as a character. I really get tired of him getting the retcon label, since he's literally not the same person he was in the previous game. Fusing with Justice did more than give him glowy superpowers, it fused their personalities, creating one new personality that blends aspects of both. Anders was very consistent in DA2, even if I most of the time I wanted to punch him in the face and say "you aren't doing mages any favors, dude!" Of course I also wanted to punch Orsino and almost every other mage in the face as well, aside from Merrill and Bethany. And I even wanted to shake Merrill a couple of times. I didn't mind that Anders responded to Hawke's letdown rather petulantly, it was in keeping with his character. And come on, Anders is one of the easiest characters to max Friendship and Rivalry, so the few Rivalry points you get for "no thanks" is negligible, not that such a 'meta' consideration should be legitimate complaint about character continuity in the first place. One way or the other, Anders is going to feel strongly about Hawke's decision regarding romance, and that's perfectly believable. Now, it would have been nice if there was a couple of "broken heart" choices, one more diplomatic than the other, but I would be fine with it still resulting in the same number of Rivalry points.

[Erani]

Abispa wrote...

BIOTIC GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm compelled to yell that out each time someone else brings up His Awesomeness. Drives my family nuts whenever they hear me. Oh well.

BioticGod should be a bi option in ME3.

[Blacklash93]

A tweet from Sr. Producer Jesse Houston:

"it's not just gay man shep it's also fem shep too! Liara isn't a girl!"

I don't agree about Liara, but going by that logic I'd say it's safe to say that the new f/f romance option won't be an Asari.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 21 mai 2011 - 06:39 .

[jeweledleah]

Eromenos wrote...

I'm not suggesting that you said that I can't be gay as Shepard. Your proposal though, was to help convince the people who are resistant to the idea. That's honorable, but I also disagree with you because we need to get past the "coming-out" shtick. Frankly we should ignore the people who likely won't even play queer romances with Kaidan or Ashley.

You mentioned Hudson does not want any retcons or plot conflicts in the ME world. How does Shepard/Kaidan/Ashley being able to "go gay" with another human come as a retcon or conflict to you or I? I'm sure we agree about the validity of Shepard being gay/straight/bi etc from the start. So that's easy for us, but hard/impossible for others to accept when it comes to the queer parts. That's the complainers' problem, not ours, and hopefully BioWare will decide that it is not their problem either. The burden of believability should stay squarely on the folks who dig in their heels against this.

I am not proposing that Kaidan or Ashley be in-the-closet. The only times I mention such a scenario is where I'm guessing the resistant people fear such an outcome. Ironically, I fear it too but whereas those folks are against "changing" those characters at all, I'm more against having to sit through those asinine PSAs I mentioned before. Nobody needs the latter scenario. If a gay Shepard begins a romance with Kaidan or Ashley in ME3, then it should be the same as if a straight Shepard does.

sigh.  again you are missing a point.  I'm not suggesting that they should come out in any way.  I'm assuming for the purposes of the story that they were already bi and to be honest, I would prefer it if they were shown as knowing they were bi, vs discovering through the magic of Shepard that they could be bi.  they simply didn't see same sex Shepard in a romantic light in ME1.  is this plausible, yes?  it fits within already existing story, yes? 

ability of Kaidan or Ashley or anyone else to fall in love with same sex Shepard is not in question here. but, what I personaly don't want to see is a scenario where they were in love with same sex Shepard starting with Eden prime, but instead of stumbling all over themselves and slipping up and showing it at every opportunity like they did with oposite sex Shepard, they instead hid it.  hid it so well that there's no indication of them ever hiding it.  revealing that they were hiding all these feelings?  changes their personality, as in ME1 they do not come across as capable of hiding their feelings or opinions, unless told to shut up - with either sex Shepard. even in ME2, on Horizon which I personaly concider to be iffy writing (becasue they act too similary to each other and have practicaly identical dialogue, not to mention animations) - they aren't exactly hiding how they feel.  do you see where i'm going with this, i hope? 

I'm speaking purely from the perspective of the story we know so far, all the possible variations of it.

I think there should be a slightly different start to a new romantic relationship between VS and Shepard.  before you get angry - start, intro, not the entire relationship, just a start of it.  why?  becasue dynamic is different.  one is friend  to lover, the other is old infatuation that they got over - being rekindled.  and I feel Iike I need to say this again - this has nothing to do with anyone's sexual orientation, only prior history.  I want that history to be aknowledged.  the same way I would like it if whether you renegaded/paragonned them was aknowledged.  same way  Garrus treats you slightly differently depending on whether you recruited him in ME1 or not.  same way as the conversation between a woman and her brother-in-law changes on the Wards, depending on whether you encouraged that they geneticaly modify her child, or tell him to respect her wishes about no genetic modifications.  the same way the news blurbs change depending on which choices you made in various missions during ME1.

its a minor thing, but it makes the world feel reacher, more immersive.

[Black Raptor]

Brodyaha wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...
"it's not just gay man shep it's also fem shep too! Liara isn't a girl!"

Of course asari aren't female! They just have breasts, sound like women, have female voices, and have gender-specific nouns/pronouns such as "she," and "matriarch."  <_<

Sorry, but Liara is an f/f option, no matter what BioWare says.

On the note of what I want for romances: I think we have enough romances as it is, personally, so there is only one new person I want to be able to romance:

Joker Moreau. <3

*snap crackle pop*

[Abispa]

Brodyaha wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...
"it's not just gay man shep it's also fem shep too! Liara isn't a girl!"

Of course asari aren't female! They just have breasts, sound like women, have female voices, and have gender-specific nouns/pronouns such as "she," and "matriarch."  <_<

Sorry, but Liara is an f/f option, no matter what BioWare says.

On the note of what I want for romances: I think we have enough romances as it is, personally, so there is only one new person I want to be able to romance:

Joker Moreau. <3

Actually, considering what we've discovered about how Asari have the equivelant of "faery glamor" that allows everyone to see their "ideal" woman, I wonder if Foghorn Leghorn would consider Liara to be the universe's sexist blue chicken; breast but no blue-bies.

EDIT: Actually, Gonzo the Great would probably be a better example.

Modifié par Abispa, 21 mai 2011 - 06:41 .

[Abispa]

Erani wrote...

Abispa wrote...

BIOTIC GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm compelled to yell that out each time someone else brings up His Awesomeness. Drives my family nuts whenever they hear me. Oh well.

BioticGod should be a bi option in ME3.

What!? You never responded to his email after beating ME2!? Let me tell you, HIS exoctic dancing is WAY better than Kelly's. *drool*

Modifié par Abispa, 21 mai 2011 - 06:44 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Abispa wrote...

Erani wrote...

Abispa wrote...

BIOTIC GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm compelled to yell that out each time someone else brings up His Awesomeness. Drives my family nuts whenever they hear me. Oh well.

BioticGod should be a bi option in ME3.

What!? You never responded to his email after beating ME2!? Let me tell you, HIS exoctic dancing is WAY better than Kelly's. *drool*

I suppose there would be more jiggle ratio at least...

I am still holding out hope for Harbringer's confession of love.   I may even agree to embrace my genetic destiny...

[Sunnie]

lol.. Well, news flash. Asari are females, says so in the codex, and are refereed to as "she" throughout the entire series. The only reason a couple BW people they keep saying otherwise is to avoid the whole lesbian discussion. In my mind, Asari are a race of space lesbians and it's nothing but hetero male fan service that males get to pseudo interbreed with them. From a realistic evolutionary and biological standpoint, Asari would never consider mating with a male from any mammalian species good idea or even feasible. It would stand to reason that a race of females would be more prone to mate with females from other species more so than males.

[Siansonea]

jeweledleah wrote...

Eromenos wrote...

I'm not suggesting that you said that I can't be gay as Shepard. Your proposal though, was to help convince the people who are resistant to the idea. That's honorable, but I also disagree with you because we need to get past the "coming-out" shtick. Frankly we should ignore the people who likely won't even play queer romances with Kaidan or Ashley.

You mentioned Hudson does not want any retcons or plot conflicts in the ME world. How does Shepard/Kaidan/Ashley being able to "go gay" with another human come as a retcon or conflict to you or I? I'm sure we agree about the validity of Shepard being gay/straight/bi etc from the start. So that's easy for us, but hard/impossible for others to accept when it comes to the queer parts. That's the complainers' problem, not ours, and hopefully BioWare will decide that it is not their problem either. The burden of believability should stay squarely on the folks who dig in their heels against this.

I am not proposing that Kaidan or Ashley be in-the-closet. The only times I mention such a scenario is where I'm guessing the resistant people fear such an outcome. Ironically, I fear it too but whereas those folks are against "changing" those characters at all, I'm more against having to sit through those asinine PSAs I mentioned before. Nobody needs the latter scenario. If a gay Shepard begins a romance with Kaidan or Ashley in ME3, then it should be the same as if a straight Shepard does.

sigh.  again you are missing a point.  I'm not suggesting that they should come out in any way.  I'm assuming for the purposes of the story that they were already bi and to be honest, I would prefer it if they were shown as knowing they were bi, vs discovering through the magic of Shepard that they could be bi.  they simply didn't see same sex Shepard in a romantic light in ME1.  is this plausible, yes?  it fits within already existing story, yes? 

ability of Kaidan or Ashley or anyone else to fall in love with same sex Shepard is not in question here. but, what I personaly don't want to see is a scenario where they were in love with same sex Shepard starting with Eden prime, but instead of stumbling all over themselves and slipping up and showing it at every opportunity like they did with oposite sex Shepard, they instead hid it.  hid it so well that there's no indication of them ever hiding it.  revealing that they were hiding all these feelings?  changes their personality, as in ME1 they do not come across as capable of hiding their feelings or opinions, unless told to shut up - with either sex Shepard. even in ME2, on Horizon which I personaly concider to be iffy writing (becasue they act too similary to each other and have practicaly identical dialogue, not to mention animations) - they aren't exactly hiding how they feel.  do you see where i'm going with this, i hope? 

I'm speaking purely from the perspective of the story we know so far, all the possible variations of it.

I think there should be a slightly different start to a new romantic relationship between VS and Shepard.  before you get angry - start, intro, not the entire relationship, just a start of it.  why?  becasue dynamic is different.  one is friend  to lover, the other is old infatuation that they got over - being rekindled.  and I feel Iike I need to say this again - this has nothing to do with anyone's sexual orientation, only prior history.  I want that history to be aknowledged.  the same way I would like it if whether you renegaded/paragonned them was aknowledged.  same way  Garrus treats you slightly differently depending on whether you recruited him in ME1 or not.  same way as the conversation between a woman and her brother-in-law changes on the Wards, depending on whether you encouraged that they geneticaly modify her child, or tell him to respect her wishes about no genetic modifications.  the same way the news blurbs change depending on which choices you made in various missions during ME1.

its a minor thing, but it makes the world feel reacher, more immersive.

I like your idea.  I doubt they're going to use existing characters, but if they did it would make a lot more sense that the person's same-sex attraction to Shepard is a newer development, rather than an unrequited interest never spoken of previously, regardless of the character in question. 

[AngelicMachinery]

Sunnie22 wrote...
 Asari would never consider mating with a male from any mammalian species good idea or even feasible. It

I don't agree with this at all, while, yes I believe they should be more prone to mate with females I see no reason why others would consider copulating with males.