paptschik wrote...
Eromenos wrote...
I never pass up a chance to deride that NPC. It's my way of saying she does nothing that EDI can't do better, and faster.
What is Kelly's reason for being there? "Cute (female, Katy Perry fake-lesbian)secretary."
I'm not coming down on people who actually get something out of her...quirks. My problem is that BioWare singles her out for exploitation in much the same way they do with the asari, as we were just talking about.
Well, in theory and in the lore she's mostly the crew psychiatrist, isn't she?
And I wouldn't even call her fake-lesbian. She's pretty much an "anything goes" character, which is why people mock her with the whole scale itch thing and treat it as if it were established that it was her.
I think she's fun, likable and cute.
I don't see the problem with such a character and wouldn't just see it as exploitation.
What, was Zevran exploitation for all the female gamers so they could get a hot gay elf to drool over?
it seems that a character can not be open in terms of sexuality at all without it being exploitation and that is only good if there is one for each gender and oriantation and then it is unfair. Seems weird to me.
The "anything goes" aspect of her I'm sure we can all detect just from arms-length.
My problem with her is that she's just like the way asari are commonly characterized by being singled-out. Why are there no male characters in ME who "lower" themselves in such ways? Emphasis on air-quotes.
The females are being singled-out for subordinate positions. It's one thing if there's diversity in portraying a group of people. But when ME2 insists on systemically portraying females primarily as sex-toys to appeal to misogynistic/homophobic douches, then it's a whole 'nother thing. DA2 had lots of female leaders and leaders-in-training, and the majority of them weren't in those positions because men valued their young-looking bodies. They were there because it is good for everyone to witness such a dynamic. ME2...not so much. A woman's future there is nothing unless it's visual. *thumbs-down*
I count Miranda and Samra's presentations in this as well. I happen to give them slightly more leeway because
their BS characterizations/appearances are offset
somewhat by their active roles in the squad, but we should not forget they express the scifi equivalent of plate-bikinis. Also Miranda's haphazard writing. (Judging by what's been said here recently, I can see why.)
My issue is not against Kelly, Miranda, or Samara. I am not judging you for liking Kelly, as you'll see later. My issue is the ME crew's willful irresponsibility. Keep in mind ME's hypocritical F/F exploitation. So, we have some actual queer and queer-friendly folks who actually enjoyed Liara and Kelly at face-value. Why not? Lucky for them. But their satisfaction does not alter the reality that those NPCs are cop-outs.
Not for diversity.
Not for awareness.
Not for inclusion. They're just for titillation. The primary goal for allowing the "fake-lesbians" I referred to was to satisfy the homophobic straight people who might get off on F/F. Queer gamers and queer-friendly straight gamers who ended up liking them too were, such as yourself, accepted in a secondary capacity because supposedly that means the ME team gives a damn about queers, but unfortunately that's been far from the truth.
Where you mentioned Zevran, I do think of him in that way. Non-human "alien" like Liara. Token bisexual in a setting that insisted on heteronormativity and homophobia. Was there any good reason for maintaining segregation of sexualities among the LIs, other than to make those "some people are straight" sayers happy while DAO's "open for anything" bisexuals get thrown at queer and straight alike to supposedly feign inclusivity? We can go on and on about "personality" differences but the long and short of it is, the leading male and the leading female were "just too good for
that" and BioWare was still too afraid of the wrath that a DA2 scenario provokes.
The tiniest part of me still sees Isabela as "exploitation," yet I love her character and I think she's fantastic. She has a major involvement with the story. She's nobody's servant, and she doesn't wait on anybody. She doesn't look like crap(in DA2), which is why I think of Zevran as the lesser male-version of Isabela, not the other way around. Her appearance and presentation actually fit with her character. Her accent doesn't sound faked or forced. Furthermore, this is DA2 we're talking about. All the LIs are bisexual. It's no longer exploitation or tokenism when there is no room left to allow cop-outs.
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They scare me.
Gazing into Samara's eyes is like... Embracing eternity!
I do. From both ways, too.
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