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[Clonedzero]

Mr.House wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

To be honest, I don't think it's a good idea to make every single past LI bisexual, given how many there are and how much dev time there is.

It worked in DA2 b/c there was only 4 of them....there's been 8 het-only LIs so far plus any new LIs.

They should just make Kaidan and Ash bi, that will make me very very very happy.

yeah i think making the VS bi could work fairly well they'd be the most convincing "surprise" bi's of the bunch.

[NICKjnp]

For dev time they should make new LI's bi. Previous ones can be decided on in the comic intro, some characters may not be available (the virmire survivor because they may be dead) and some simply don't fit the bill (Jack...since she tells Femshep that she isn't a lesbian). So the best move is for them to admit Liara is "bi" and to make the new LI's a s/s option.

[jlb524]

Mesina2 wrote...

Because I don't buy it that EVERYONE I know swing both way.

Why not flirt with someone who is straight and puts that character in awkward position.
Or even better, character you hit on is gay only and rejects you for that. That would be hilarious.

I think the point is that you don't know what they are unless you pursue it....unless you are looking from a meta-perspective.  If so, there's lots of meta things I don't like about the game but I don't let it bother me as I just don't pick those options. 

In ME2, I really don't know/don't care what Garrus' actual sexuality is or if he could possibly be into humans....same with Fenris in DA2. 

[Mr.House]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

No it's not

Maybe, but what's definitely unrealistic is an entire crew of soldiers, thieves, mercs, and geniuses falling for the same person.

Just because your bi does not mean you fall for the same person. That did not happen in DA2, Fen and Merrill only fell for you if you flirted with them, Izzy is Izzy. The only one who does is Anders and even then, he only does that if you pick the diplomic option. I don't see the issue at all.

With all due respect, and I really mean that, that's a bit unrealistic and demanding for ME3. I'm pro s/s relationship for the most part, but you seriously can't expect everyone to be that way in game. I can see it for a few characters and we haven't even met any of the new ones yet.

I don't even really support all being bi, I just hope Ash and Kai Kai are bi and it makes more sense and is easy to implant. However I won't get angry if all are bi.

[SennenScale]

Mesina2 wrote...

Why not flirt with someone who is straight and puts that character in awkward position.
Or even better, character you hit on is gay only and rejects you for that. That would be hilarious.

Indeed it would.


It is weird to like people more for turning you down? Samara's "in another life" made me like her all the more.

EDIT: Not that Samara is only lesbian or anything. Just mentioned her as an example of a character turning you down gracefully.

Modifié par SennenScale, 16 mai 2011 - 08:31 .

[PMC65]

SennenScale wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Why not flirt with someone who is straight and puts that character in awkward position.
Or even better, character you hit on is gay only and rejects you for that. That would be hilarious.

Indeed it would.


It is weird to like people more for turning you down? Samara's "in another life" made me like her all the more.

EDIT: Not that Samara is only lesbian or anything, just mentioned her because she turns your down.

That was my femshep with Jack ... I didn't want her but when the conversation went to her "rejection"  .... it's the chase ... Jack's "Crazy" scares the Shep, but now my Shep wants!

[AdmiralCheez]

Mr.House wrote...

Just because your bi does not mean you fall for the same person. That did not happen in DA2, Fen and Merrill only fell for you if you flirted with them, Izzy is Izzy. The only one who does is Anders and even then, he only does that if you pick the diplomic option. I don't see the issue at all.

"Only if you flirted with them" still means they can fall for you.

Listen, I'm bi, and in a perfect world, everyone else would be bi, too.  Gender roles and restrictions are cumbersome, and there is much more depth to love than just reproductive instincts.  Call me a hippy, whatever.

My point is that there can be depth and connection between two characters without it resorting to shagging, and therefore I think that shagging be limited to only one gender for some characters (because contrast between sexual orientations provides character diversity), and not an option at all for others (because y'all know the best companions aren't LIs, anyway: Mordin, Varric, Wrex, etc).

The key here is variety: sometimes what certain characters ARE NOT is just as important as what they ARE.  Having all LIs accesible to every Shepard would, I feel, cheapen the characters as it would be double the crewmates jumping into Shepard's bed.  Shep's a raging Mary Sue as it is; let's not make it worse.

[SennenScale]

PMC65 wrote...
That was my femshep with Jack ... I didn't want her but when the conversation went to her "rejection"  .... it's the chase ... Jack's "Crazy" scares the Shep, but now my Shep wants!

My Shep thought the same thing. "But...but...but I never asked! And now I want! The hell..I'm so confused! "

[Ryzaki]

Truth be told I have no clue why they made so many LIs.

That was madness.

[Mr.House]

AdmiralCheez wrote...


My point is that there can be depth and connection between two characters without it resorting to shagging, and therefore I think that shagging be limited to only one gender for some characters (because contrast between sexual orientations provides character diversity), and not an option at all for others (because y'all know the best companions aren't LIs, anyway: Mordin, Varric, Wrex, etc).

Izzy is better then Varric

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

Truth be told I have no clue why they made so many LIs.

That was madness.

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

[AdmiralCheez]

Mr.House wrote...

Izzy is better then Varric

LIES!  YOU HAVE BEEN BLINDED BY ZE BOOBIES!

Just kidding, but you have to admit, Mordin and Wrex are bros.

[jlb524]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Just because your bi does not mean you fall for the same person. That did not happen in DA2, Fen and Merrill only fell for you if you flirted with them, Izzy is Izzy. The only one who does is Anders and even then, he only does that if you pick the diplomic option. I don't see the issue at all.

"Only if you flirted with them" still means they can fall for you.

Listen, I'm bi, and in a perfect world, everyone else would be bi, too.  Gender roles and restrictions are cumbersome, and there is much more depth to love than just reproductive instincts.  Call me a hippy, whatever.

My point is that there can be depth and connection between two characters without it resorting to shagging, and therefore I think that shagging be limited to only one gender for some characters (because contrast between sexual orientations provides character diversity), and not an option at all for others (because y'all know the best companions aren't LIs, anyway: Mordin, Varric, Wrex, etc).

The key here is variety: sometimes what certain characters ARE NOT is just as important as what they ARE.  Having all LIs accesible to every Shepard would, I feel, cheapen the characters as it would be double the crewmates jumping into Shepard's bed.  Shep's a raging Mary Sue as it is; let's not make it worse.

There can easily be variety without making an issue out of sexuality, and with far more interesting stuff.

How exciting would it be if they cloned Liara's character in a new ME3 squad mate but just made her straight?  Or cloned Jacob and just made him gay?  Really...seems like a cheap way to add variety.

The other things you speak of are independent of sexuality, really.

[Ryzaki]

Mr.House wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Truth be told I have no clue why they made so many LIs.

That was madness.

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

They didn't need to make six! 

[Mr.House]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Izzy is better then Varric

LIES!  YOU HAVE BEEN BLINDED BY ZE BOOBIES!

Just kidding, but you have to admit, Mordin and Wrex are bros.

Varric, Wrex and Mordin are the Biobros.

[PMC65]

SennenScale wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
That was my femshep with Jack ... I didn't want her but when the conversation went to her "rejection"  .... it's the chase ... Jack's "Crazy" scares the Shep, but now my Shep wants!

My Shep thought the same thing. "But...but...but I never asked! And now I want! The hell..I'm so confused! "

"Jack? Jack is that you? I knew you were stalking me, Subject Zero. I said I would chase you, you chasing me is freakin' me out!"

OK, let's hope that Jack stays out of the girls club. Morinth already sent my femshep running and hiding behind Samara.

[CroGamer002]

Mr.House wrote...

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

What reboot?

[ipgd]

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Truth be told I have no clue why they made so many LIs.

That was madness.

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

They didn't need to make six! 

Jacob doesn't count. He's just a sexual harrassment suit.

[Mr.House]

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

What reboot?

ME2. A blind nug could see tt was a reboot for the ME series to get new fans, and did it in a very poor way.

[Eternal Dust]

Blacklash93 wrote...

So it looks like it'll probably be new characters from Hudson's latest tweet.

I really, really hope they're human. I like my romances free of mandibles, scales, and exo-suits.

This. And I hope they don't stick another asari as the token bi character again. Yeesh.

[AdmiralCheez]

jlb524 wrote...

How exciting would it be if they cloned Liara's character in a new ME3 squad mate but just made her straight?  Or cloned Jacob and just made him gay?  Really...seems like a cheap way to add variety.

Suddenly making all old characters bi is equally cheap.  Every character should be unique, and if all LIs are bi, the lines between begin to blur.  It stops being "likes a certain kind of woman/man/person" and starts being "likes Shepard."  Choice in Shepard's gender matters less, and customization seems hollow.

I would totally support an exclusive m/m or f/f option for that reason.  However, I am not against a couple bi options-those would be great fun.  But everyone?  Really?  Aren't Shepard's powers of charmidation potent enough already?

And why the hell would they clone old characters?

[Lancer2185]

i am sure that not all characters in me3 will go both ways, it is not realistic,but hey i am all for this same sex Li.

[Ryzaki]

ipgd wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Truth be told I have no clue why they made so many LIs.

That was madness.

ME2 was a reboot for new fans into the series so they had to make new LIs.

They didn't need to make six! 

Jacob doesn't count. He's just a sexual harrassment suit.

I thought that was Kelly. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Mr.House wrote...

ME2. A blind nug could see tt was a reboot for the ME series to get new fans, and did it in a very poor way.

This ME1 fan's opinion says that your opinion is silly.  I loved ME1, and I loved ME2 even more.  In fact, I view them as essential parts to one another, pieces of a greater whole.

So there.

[CroGamer002]

Mr.House wrote...

ME2. A blind nug could see tt was a reboot for the ME series to get new fans, and did it in a very poor way.

What reboot?

Only game mechanics are rebooted since previous one sucked.