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[Figaro94]

While doing the Loyalty missions for Tali and Legion I senced there were going to be a conflict between them and I was right. Quarians are preparing to take their homeworld back and Legion wants to warn the rest of the geth because of it. I read somewhere that in ME3 the Quarians will return to their homeworld and fight to reclaim it though I don't know if this has been confirmed, but i've been thinking.
What if you had to choose to side with the Quarians or Geth, like help Legion or help Tali. Who would you choose? Wich race would fit the best to help us against the reapers?
I personally woud choose to side with the geth because I think that Legion is freaking awesome and i never romanced Tali I choose Liara instead.

[Dave of Canada]

Geth.

They look cooler and Legion is awesome.

+ The fleet is suffering from a schism and Tali is dead, it would take less time to wipe out the Quarians. More time to go around saving the universe.

[AlexMBrennan]

You side with the geth because you like the token geth squad mate more than the token quarian squad mate - imagine how stupid the quarian admirals will feel when they realise that they could have won this war simply by sending a prettier "companion" to serve as a "liaison".

On a more serious note, I'd side with the quarians, for the same reason that I'd prefer a human and NOT a computer to be in ultimate control of, say, a nuclear power station.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 16 mai 2011 - 07:54 .

[Someone With Mass]

Quarians. I can probably leave the geth on a good note.

And I laugh at the idiots who thinks killing off characters is somehow beneficial to their so-called "plan"

Pff. Shows how much they know...

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 mai 2011 - 07:50 .

[Figaro94]

The geth don't want war but the quarians do, I doubt that even if the quarians knew that the geth wants peace the quarians would still start a war with them, as 1 of the admirals sayes during Talis loyalty mission, The quarians began killing the geth, all the geth did was selfdef.

[Figaro94]

bump

Modifié par Figaro94, 16 mai 2011 - 09:35 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, stating with absolute authority that it was self defence is one way to resolve this dilemma. But exactly why are *you* an authority on moral and ethical questions?

The geth are machines; glorified computers that mimic human behaviour. I don't think that they should be able to invoke self-defence any more than my fridge. On the other hand, humans don't think that differently (neural networks and such), so are we really fundamentally different? Where do you draw the line? Shouldn't we sort that out first before stating our opinion with absolute conviction?

[Antivenger]

I'd like to have as many allies as possible. Galactic extermination and all that. Apparently though, submitting the evidence means I'm an insensitive **** and the Quarians are going to get screwed over in ME3. So Geth, I guess?

Just as a side thought, most of the Quarian population live in the Migrant fleet. A clustered flotilla of worn-out ships. The Reapers are targetting Earth, but do you really think it would be hard for a group of a few Reapers to wipe them out?

EDIT: Spilleng.

Modifié par Antivenger, 16 mai 2011 - 10:47 .

[Figaro94]

Well the geth never did anything wrong from the beginning, the quarians made them to smart and they started to question their existance, and instead of trying to be friends with the geth the quarians tried to wipe them out, they may be machines but they are still smart enough to understand things and they never did anything wrong in the first place, technically they still haven't done anything wrong, legion sayes that the geth are taking care of the planet for the quarians return.

[Clonedzero]

thats a hard choice.

geth are robots and you can never trust robots.
quarians are annoying and stupid.

i say let them kill each other?

[Figaro94]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Figaro94 wrote...

Well the geth never did anything wrong from the beginning...

The quarians never did anything wrong though.

Yes, it was the Quarians who built the geth, it was the quarians who first attacked them, all the bad guy geth were heretics, they served the reapers but you can change them in legions loyalty mission so they become like the normal geth who oppose the reapers, Legion is friendly and he sayes that peace is possible if the quarians won't show hostility against the geth..

Modifié par Figaro94, 16 mai 2011 - 11:04 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
Other than genocide and violent isolationism? Yeah, nothin' wrong with any of that. The quarians never did anything wrong though.

Except when they used loopholes to get around the Council's rules against the creation of AIs.

[Figaro94]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Figaro94 wrote...

Well the geth never did anything wrong from the beginning...

The quarians never did anything wrong though.

The quarians built the geth, the quarians were the one who started the war against quarian and geth, the geth who has killed so much are heretics, they serve the reapers, though you can change them to become normal and oppose the reapers in Legions loyalty mission, Legion's a good guy who sayes that peace is possible between geth and quarian as long as the quarians won't show hostility against them.

Modifié par Figaro94, 16 mai 2011 - 11:03 .

[Figaro94]

oh sorry posted twice

[Figaro94]

The quarians still started it all because they were afraid, they wanted to shut them down and that started it all, they could have tryed to solve it in another way.

[Antivenger]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Figaro94 wrote...

The quarians still started it all because they were afraid...

Justifiably so as is apparent from the near total extinction of their species and the complete destruction of their civilization at the hands of the geth.

How can it be justified when it's their fault the geth fought them i nthe first place?

[Figaro94]

The geth never really showed any threat, the quarians just thought they would become hostile because the geth was treated as slaves.

[Antivenger]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Antivenger wrote...

How can it be justified when it's their fault the geth fought them i nthe first place?

It can be justified because under no circumstances should the quarians be expected to lay down and die for another species. Or machines in this case.

It can be justified because the quarians were taking action against a very dangerous threat which had unknown intentions for them.

Waiting around to see if the geth were going to become violent would have been very dangerous. It would have given the geth more time to organize. As each day went by the quarians would get weaker and the geth stronger. In the end they'd be at the geth's mercy. As we've seen, the geth have no mercy.

The quarians could not afford to sit around and hope that the geth would be friendly only to be proven wrong. They had to take action while they still had the capability to do so.

If you thought long and hard about this you'd agree with me. It requires empathy though.

I'm not arguing that it was unreasonable for the Quarians to fight the Geth. What I'm saying is that the fault for their exile falls on themselves. It's understandable, but it's not justified.

 I also noticed that you said the true geth endorced the actions of the heretics.
No they didn't.
The heretics simply wanted to leave at first, and the true geth let them. They didn't know of their intentions to serve the Reapers.

Personal insults don't fly here, bro.

[Figaro94]

You are right Saphra but in this case Legion has allready told us that the geth never wanted to harm the quarians.